Some cheerful news from Italy, where 23 American CIA agents have been convicted of kidnapping over an extraordinary rendition case. There do survive pockets of genuine independent judiciary in Europe.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/04/cia-guilty-rendition-abu-omar
In the UK, you cannot present someone before a court who was brought there illegally. I know this because I was trying to organise the kidnap of Asil Nadir for the FCO, but the idea had to be abandoned because a then recent ruling by the Law Lords had released an accused who had been kidnapped abroad to bring him to trial.
Does anybody know what the situation is in Italy? Would it not be fun to kidnap one of the CIA agents and render them to jail in Italy? I might give it a go.
Morning Craig
One of your fine & noble correspondants posted a link on here a bit back to an essay by some dude or dudette which was a fine bit of dual state history of Italy that it’s been highly supported by the CIA since the early 50’s (and a jolly good read too).
I accidently caught an interview with some CIA gimp on the world service this morning and he genuinely was saying (I shit you not) that if Italy gets a terrorist attack now, well then, they’ve only got themselves to blame. Hokely dokely.
Bureaucrats, technocrats, twats are just taking over the fricking world and expect the people to say cheers! Thanks a bunch. Doubt it somehow.
yeah, like that, the world is ruled by twatocrats.
Render them in plaster?
Well done the Italian courts!
indeed well done Italian courts, but it does not mean much, Berlusconi8 will carry on working with his masters in the CIA and Mafia.
I know its only wiki, but what the heck.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
Worth reading Scott Horton, of Harpers magazine, on these sorts of cases (he’s also a professor of International Law).
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/11/hbc-90006031
What I can’t yet tell, and this is surely the more interesting aspect, is whether this was a decision was on extraordinary rendition per se, or the fact that the rendition was to a country where the person was going to be tortured.
If the former, pretty certain that Berlusconi and Obama will hash out a decision to bring the legal process to a close; if the latter, very difficult to see how this ends.
While we are at it we may as well go the whole hog…
Maybe its time to waterboard Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Blair et al into answering our reasonable questions about crimes against humanity.
And cue a spate of judicial assassinations in Italy…maybe even-heaven forbid-a false flag “terrorist attack” …with the rotten hidden hand of the CIA behind it all..??
These people are truly capable of such evil,i believe.
I am glad,though,that there are some judiciaries still capable of standing up to be counted.
I have always wanted a ‘hat tip’.
This was my comment here yesterday although for some reason my name didn’t come up.
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This in the Guardian today.
Rendition trial ends with Milan CIA chief given eight years
Italy is under the control and manipulation of Islam, and we all know how much Muslims love the CIA.
November 3
“U.S. agrees to settle lawsuit in which CIA officials are accused of misconduct, fraud”…
http://tinyurl.com/yzwx2uy
Dont go over the top on that one old bean. What if the CIA has a contract with Transworld Mafia Inc to shoot anyone who kidnaps an operative and takes him/her/it to Italy (or anywhere else for that matter) for justice? I’d do that if I was a CIA senior manager. A few saluatory examples and the world would get the message and leave my staff alone, eh? So no heroics please, better safe than sorry.
Mary, I tip my hat to you.
But if you want the Rolls Royce of a hat tip, you need to get one from this guy: http://www.gregpalast.com/
Craig,
What is your view on the Official Story of 9/11? Do you suspect that perhaps it could have been a false flag attack? After all the coincidences of no-fighter intercepts, twin towers falling down in an hour or so, wtc7 falling later that day with all that Enron evidence inside, the pentagon dept investigating the DoD budget overrun (that was announced the day before) and then followed by Anthrax attacks (delivered via US military labs) – all seems to much of a coincidence to me… I guess I must just be paranoid…
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Salaam Craig
I have come across this article by Paul Craig Roberts . You are mentioned there.
Best.
“The finding of the Italian court, and keep in mind that Italy is a bought-and-paid-for US puppet state, indicates that even our bought puppets are finding the US too much to stomach.
Moving from the tip of the iceberg down, we have Ambassador Craig Murray, rector of the University of Dundee and until 2004 the UK Ambassador to Uzbekistan, which he describes as a Stalinist totalitarian state courted and supported by the Americans.
As ambassador, Murray saw the MI5 intelligence reports from the CIA that described the most horrible torture procedures. “People were raped with broken bottles, children were tortured in front of their parents until they [the parents] signed a confession, people were boiled alive.”
“Intelligence” from these torture sessions was passed on by the CIA to MI5 and to Washington as proof of the vast al Qaeda conspiracy.
Amb. Murray reports that the people delivered by CIA flights to Uzbekistan’s torture prisons “were told to confess to membership in Al Qaeda. They were told to confess they’d been in training camps in Afghanistan. They were told to confess they had met Osama bin Laden in person. And the CIA intelligence constantly echoed these themes.”
“I was absolutely stunned,” says the British ambassador, who thought that he served a moral country that, along with its American ally, had moral integrity. The great Anglo-American bastion of democracy and human rights, the homes of the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights, the great moral democracies that defeated Nazism and stood up to Stalin’s gulags, were prepared to commit any crime in order to maximize profits.
Amb. Murray learned too much and was fired when he vomited it all up. He saw the documents that proved that the motivation for US and UK military aggression in Afghanistan had to do with the natural gas deposits in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. The Americans wanted a pipeline that bypassed Russia and Iran and went through Afghanistan. To insure this, an invasion was necessary. The idiot American public could be told that the invasion was necessary because of 9/11 and to save them from “terrorism,” and the utter fools would believe the lie.
“If you look at the deployment of US forces in Afghanistan, as against other NATO country forces in Afghanistan, you’ll see that undoubtedly the US forces are positioned to guard the pipeline route. It’s what it’s about. It’s about money, its about energy, it’s not about democracy.”
Guess who the consultant was who arranged with then Texas governor George W. Bush the agreements that would give to Enron the rights to Uzbekistan’s and Turkmenistan’s natural gas deposits and to Unocal to develop the trans-Afghanistan pipeline. It was Karzai, the US-imposed “president” of Afghanistan, who has no support in the country except for American bayonets.
Amb. Murray was dismissed from the UK Foreign Service for his revelations. No doubt on orders from Washington to our British puppet.
Full article:
http://original.antiwar.com/roberts/2009/11/06/the-evil-empire/
I accidently caught an interview with some CIA gimp on the world service this morning and he genuinely was saying (I shit you not) that if Italy gets a terrorist attack now, well then, they’ve only got themselves to blame. Hokely dokely.
Bureaucrats, technocrats, twats are just taking over the fricking world and expect the people to say cheers! Thanks a bunch