A commenter has left this about Andrew Dismore, the Chair of the Parliamentary Joint Commission on Human Rights. The email address and ISP connected to the comment (which I shall not reveal) appear to confirm this was from an Uzbek source, It is worth noting that there are a number of good disaffected young people inside the Uzbek foreign ministry.
Mr Dismore is a friend of Uzbeki regime. He has been in our Embassy in London on several occasions for treatment with plov and shashlik (famous uzbek national dish). In 2003-2004 he promoted Uzbekistani interests, and like many other, he played great role in putting Uzbeki pressure on British FCO to sack their Ambassador Murray from his office in Tashkent.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/05/torture_the_gua.html#comments
I have been trying to check up on this. The comment was made on my posting which included reference to Dismore’s efforts from the chair to minimise the impact of my evidence on UK complicity in torture. It goes without saying that if Dismore had indeed had any role in prompting my dismissal, he should have declared this at the Select Committee. A friend of mine with very strong Labour Party connections, told me recently that she had been talking to one of Jack Straw’s former New Labour Special Advisers in the FCO. She mentioned she knew me, and he said he had last heard of me when he approved my letter of dismissal. For a Special Adviser to be involved in any way in the dismissal of a civil servant is of course in complete contravention of the Civil Service Code.
It is also true, and appalling, that the Uzbek government was told I had been dismissed, before I was told myself. All of which does fit with the idea that New Labour were discussing it with the Uzbek government.
In looking for further evidence to support or refute my informant, I bear in mind that Andrew Dismore is the Vice Chair of the Labour Friends of Israel. The Karimov regime is of course a long term supporter and strategic partner of Israel – one of the very small group of countries which always supports Israel at the UN General Assembly. The Israel link could be what led Dismore into support for the Uzbek regime.
There is substantial evidence for this. In the middle of a long speech in Parliament against Palestinian terrorism, Andrew Dismore suddenly switched to describing an alleged terrorist attack on Uzbekistan, and then switched back to the Palestinians again:
Andrew Dismore
…there was an attempted attack on the Maccabiah games in Jerusalem. Salem Taleb Al-Darawi, of the PFLP, was one of those involved. It was described as a Xjoint operation” and a PFLP militia group was involved. Perhaps most chilling of all was the attempt to bring down the Israeli equivalent of the twin towers when, on 7 May this year, Israeli soldiers intercepted a truck filled with more than half a tonne of high explosives, the target being the 50-storey Azrieli towers. Again, two of those involved were senior PFLP leaders, Ra’ad Nazel, the area commander for the PFLP, who was killed in the operation, and another PFLP commander who was arrested. Let us contrast that record with that of the JI organisation, which was accused only of planning attacks. I think that the PFLP attacks were much more serious.
The Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan is being proscribed because it is supposed to have launched a sophisticated bombing campaign in Tashkent, which was directed against the Uzbekistan regime. We should note that it was not directed against UK interests. However, in the past few months the PFLP has organised more bomb attacks. On 3 September, a car bomb and three other bombs exploded in Jerusalem and nine civilians were injured. On 17 October 2001, there was a car bombing in the Gaza strip at Nahal Oz. On 16 February 2002, two children were killed and 27 wounded when a PFLP suicide bomber exploded himself at a crowded shopping mall in Karnei Shomron. On 19 May 2002, the PFLP carried out a suicide bombing in the coastal city of Netanya, in which three people were killed and 59 wounded, which was apparently planned from prison by Ahmed Saadat, the leader of the PFLP, according to telephone taps, while he was supposed to have been guarded by UK and American prison guards as part of the agreement with the Palestinians and the Israelis.
The “bombings” to which Dismore refers form a key part of the propaganda of the Karimov regime, but are a total fiction. I was in Tashkent that day and I went right to the site of each of the four alleged bombs, in one case arriving less that an hour after the alleged explosion. It was very obvious from the physical evidence that there had in fact been no explosions. My investigations at the time are described in great detail in Murder in Samarkand. So why did Dismore in the middle of a speech about Israel big up a Karimov propaganda big lie?
His speech was about only two situations: Israel and Uzbekistan. That is at least circumstantial support that our Uzbek informant is indeed telling the truth about Dismore.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo021030/debtext/21030-08.htm
In April 2004 Dismore asked a parliamentary questions also promoting the Uzbek propaganda account of the non-existent bombings:
Mr. Dismore To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Allairs what assessment he has made of the statement by the authorities in Uzbekistan that terrorist attacks in late March were linked to Hizb-ut-Tahrir; and if he will make a statement
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Next we have Dismore actually admitting that he is raising an issue at the behest of the Uzbek government:
I certainly do not hold up Uzbekistan as a example of liberal democracy?”far from it; it has a pretty nasty regime?”but it believes quite strongly that it faces a serious terrorist threat organised by Hizb ut-Tahrir. I have no way of knowing whether that it right, but it has certainly raised that issue with me.
The fact that the Uzbek regime is “pretty nasty” is of course so blatantly obvious that no politician in the UK could speak on its behalf without a false disclaimer, before going on to put the Karimov regime’s viewpoint. Again, as explained at length in Murder in Samarkand, there were plenty of examples of the Uzbek government concocting evidence of Hizb Ut Tehrir involvement in violence, (Like the H-u-T activist dragged out of bed in his underpants, and found to be concealing ammunition when searched at the police station). But in two years careful study of dissidence and terrorism, looking at facts and interviewing people all over Uzbekistan, I concluded H-u-T were indeed an organisation with some aims I certainly do not share, but committed to non-violence.
But the important point here is that Dismore admits in Parliament that the Karimov regime is “raising concerns” with Dismore. Why does Dismore have a line to the Karimov regime, and by precisely what mechanism? Does it work as my commenter alleges through hospitality and contacts at the Uzbek Embassy? Dismore then undeniably passes on those entirely faked Karimov concerns in our parliament. This strongly inclines me to believe that my commenter has genuine inside knowledge of Dismore’s contacts with the Uzbek Embassy; it indeed seems probable that he lobbied on their behalf for me to be sacked.
I may get more detail from my Uzbek informant, or others may know more. If indeed Dismore did discuss my dismissal with the Uzbek government or Embassy as alleged, then it is a disgrace he was chairing my evidence session, and he should resign as Chairman of the Parliamentary Joint Human Rights Committee. How anyone in that Chair can even attend functions at the Uzbek Embassy is beyond me.
What about fighting Dismore as an independent at the next election in his own constituency (if it has a bookshop)?
@Abe Rene – damn! Beaten to the punch.
I’ll 3rd that.
A rat, smelled-out! Good luck!
I agree with those above. If you want to stand against a New Labour candidate, this is your man.
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Hindu: 8.7%
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Graduates 16-74: 30.2%
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When Hazel Blears got stop and searched she turned out to have lots of unexplained stuff in her pockets. She will hopefully learn from the experience.
Dismore is likely to be on the direct gravy train of the Zionist bankers with no need to top up with dodgy House of Commons expenses. Dismore doesn’t look worn out by the strain on his conscience like Blair does, and he will likely shrug off any slurs on his image from lesser mortals like ourselves.
Trouble is, on the Day of Judgement. Thou wast weighed in the balance and found WANTING. The ones who got found out , repented. But the ones who thought they got away with it, didn’t repent and got the Karimov treatment or worse for eternity. Vengeance is Mine. Thus said the Lord.
This isn’t politics, of course, but like Craig my mind cannot comprehend why anyone would want to get involved with such criminality. I find solace in my incomprehension from the promises of a Just God.
I can’t understand why there are so few comments on this important report. If the allegations are true, surely treason is involved here.
Some further reading – LFoI’s latest report including their demons -Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran and Syria.
http://www.lfi.org.uk/files/090518_Key%20Issues.pdf
I am not a spook but do know a fair bit of techie stuff, and would offer the following to “helpful sources” who need to maintain anonymity.
When posting here, the transaction (including comment, email address, name etc) can be intercepted at any internet router between the server (northern Europe?) and the user (Uzbekistan?). Needless to say it is a reasonable assumption that the Uzbek security services would be very interested in who their country was accessing a site like this one.
The ability to eavesdrop on the site is due to the lack of a secure mode (normally indicated by a padlock symbol in your browser which is present when shopping on ebay etc – and note that is an unusual configuration for blogs as encryption is not normally considered necessary). I am sure our Uzbek friend knows this but, to be sure, only use a throwaway address e.g. Hotmail and one you’ve consistently accessed at a public location.
That said I hope our friend in this instance is in London, not Uzbekistan, where it would be more difficult for their spooks to figure out who is doing what.
Dear Craig
I found your post to be very interesting.
It highlights how corrupt Britain is.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Craig,
perhaps you should post this article again, or add a link to it after the North Korea article; I think a lot of people might have missed it.
Mary,
re. the lack of comments on this article, I did have a bit of trouble accessing this site on either the 27th or 28th, the server seemed to be down.
Dismore is also a Labour friend of Israel and that explains his complicity with the murderous dictator in Uzbekistan who by oppressing Muslims promotes Zionism. I want to congratulate Mr Murray for his courage and forthrightness.
Boiler, such people will run with the hares and chase with the hounds and then eat both; they do not have a moral or political compass, or rather their needle is attuned always towards the poles of power and money.
Such people are also likely, for example, to be supplying so-called ‘Mujaheddin’/ ‘Taliban’ forces with weapons (as the West did, one way and another) and money at the same time as they are dined by dictators who are supposedly opposed to those forces (but who in fact are complicit in most ways with most things, including drugs, from which those forces derive much of their income). These people will also lend their financial and political muscle to the oppression of whoever and whatever is conducive to their material and numinous self-aggrandisement and simultaneously to participate assiduously in representative parliamentary democracy.
In this case, it seems as though hegemonic US/ Western power and wealth is the goal (the usual). I’m fully aware of the various lobbies extant in the USA and UK and their effect on policy and especially the lobby that imagines it is pro-Israel (but the effect of hwose actions, I would argue, is in fact in the long run helping to direct Israel and her neighbours to ultimate destruction). However – and this is a key point – one cannot fold every dynamic conveniently into a bipolar axis involving ‘Zionists’ and ‘Goodies’. It’s both more simple and simultaneously more complex than that and we need to understand and engage with these complexities coldly in order to be in a position effectively to critique power.
I’ve been thinking that these allegations are serious enough that Andrew Dismore would probably wish to respond, either to you directly Craig or in some form publicly. If he does not, then he would have to have very good reasons for doing so (such as the claims being true, for example – or at least not wanting to draw attention to some meetings of questionable judgement).
I will be very interested in how this one plays out – this could be a big issue. Like Mary, I wonder why it is that people are not commenting on this article, unless it is just the technical problems besetting the site.