Happy Christmas Everybody!!
I just saw an eyewitness on BBC TV News recount that the Nigerian man who set fire to his leg on a Delta flight was shouting “about Afghanistan”. Which proves yet again that by occupying Afghanistan we are provoking, not preventing, attempted terrorism.
Regular readers know that I fly out of Schiphol some thirty times a year. Security there is ultra tight – in fact a real pain in the neck – with intensive searches and x rays actually at gate. The non-explosive and non-dangerous (as it proved) substance he had might very well prove to be duty free alcohol – it is being described by the US authorities as “incendiary” rather than “explosive”. But the BBC is still referring to an “Explosive mixture”, even though it plainly was not “explosive” as it did not explode.
It seems to me most improbable that if Abdul Faroukh really was working for Al-Qaida, he would have been quite so open about it, as it is claimed he is being. But we will doubtless see this incident ramped up more and more to justify the occupation of Afghanistan. A BBC “security correspondent” is waffling on even now about “sophisticated explosive devices”. In fact it sounds as about as effective as a christmas cracker.
Don’t let it spoil your turkey sandwiches. How long before Brown is on screen explaining this is why we have to be in Afghanistan?
Dont believe any of the MSM narrative..
Just another spook patsy methinks…
Apart from the “strangeness” surrounding this episode, doesn’t it indicate how difficult it actually is to get a fully-functional bomb on a plane?
As far as I can acertain, this particular explosive, is characterized by its “stability” making it a very safe explosive for industrial and military purposes, it needs a proper detonator to cause an explosion. Detonators on the other hand tend to be relatively unstable and dangerous to play around with.
I think this Nigerian kid was a bit of nutter, who didn’t really know what he was doing, a bit like the shoe-bomber.
While we’re talking about the media, isn’t it telling that our media is so concerned with a pathetic attempt to blow up an airliner, and at the same time our far more successful and bloody attacks on the enemy, receive so little coverage?
One could mention the Israeli attacks on Gaza and the West Bank. The American attacks on the border areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan, the recent bombings in Yemen. It’s not as if we are merely passive in the “war of terror”, we are on the offensive and our level of “success” in killing the enemy far outweighs their terrorist efforts targetting us, yet somehow we have the notion that we are the true victims.
Won’t the scale of our bombardments and killing of civilians, in our efforts to get at the “bad men” come back to haunt us as blowback at some future date? Or do we think that death rained from the sky when we do it is somehow different from the violence of terrorism? Are some types of mass slaughter and atrocity, “good” and “just”, whilst others are not? That self-righteous prick Obama certainly seems to think so.
An Israeli firm controls security at Amsterdam airport by the way. Same with all the 9/11 flights. I guess saying this must make me an ‘anti-semite’ or something, but what the hell!
Craig, they are wrecking your blog. My advice is to block their IP addresses. If a new wave appear with new names and new IP addresses it will show just how bad the situation is. You can at least then post up your actions and what happened after that. Once you out them right into the light they don’t have any percentage to continue. Trust me on this. I remember a previous post of yours Craig. It was entitled ‘You Are All Going To Die’ or something. Good post and i’d already come to terms with my death, as you have. Don’t let these freaks mess up your great blog. Rememeber how they tried to cause havoc during your election campaign as well? They are just scumbags. I hope you had a great Christmas and I wish you great strength and happiness for the New Year Craig. All the best to you. Cheers.
This is what is happening to Craig’s site:
http://www.infowars.com/israel-recruits-army-of-bloggers-to-troll-anti-war-websites/
Israel Recruits Army Of Bloggers To Troll Anti-War Websites
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, January 19, 2009
Israel has announced that it is setting up a network of bloggers to combat websites deemed “problematic” by the Zionist state, presumably to propagandize about the necessity of killing babies and infants in the name of self-defense.
Israel’s global reputation for being the new Nazis was already firmly established, but the ceaseless and indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, labeled a war crime by international observers, has hardened opinion against the country and this has manifested itself nowhere more than the world wide web.
Israel’s response will be to flood the Internet with PR agents who will attempt to create a phony consensus that the ZIonist state’s barbarian actions are justifiable.
According to a report in Haaretz, the Immigrant Absorption Ministry is setting up “an army of bloggers” who will “represent” Israel on “anti-Zionist blogs” in English, French, Spanish and German.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
The ministry’s director-general Erez Halfon told Haaretz that over a million people who speak a second language are being targeted in a recruiting drive that will then direct the volunteers to web sites deemed “problematic.” Presumably their mission would be to troll comment boards and forums with pro-Zionist arguments, a public relations stunt that we have seen employed by other entities such as Monsanto and more recently Centcom and the U.S. Air Force.
Such ongoing efforts to infiltrate the Internet and propagandize for the war on terror are well documented.
CENTCOM has programs underway to infiltrate blogs and message boards to ensure people, “have the opportunity to read positive stories,”presumably about how Iraq is a wonderful liberated democracy and the war on terror really is about protecting Americans from Al-CIAda.
In May 2008, it was revealed that the Pentagon was expanding “Information Operations” on the Internet with purposefully set up foreign news websites, designed to look like independent media sources but in reality carrying direct military propaganda.
More recently the New York Times published an expose on privately hired operatives who have been appearing on all major US news networks promoting the interests and operations of the Pentagon and generating favorable news coverage of the Bush administration while posing as independent military analysts.
This operation was formally announced In 2006 when the Pentagon set up a unit to “better promote its message across 24-hour rolling news outlets, and particularly on the internet”.
Again, the Pentagon said the move would boost its ability to counter “inaccurate” news stories and exploit new media.
Just over a week ago, the US Air Force announced a “counter-blog” response plan aimed at fielding and reacting to material from bloggers who have “negative opinions about the US government and the Air Force.”
The plan, created by the public affairs arm of the Air Force, includes a detailed twelve-point “counter blogging” flow-chart that dictates how officers should tackle what are described as “trolls,” “ragers,” and “misguided” online writers.
Arsalan Goldberg: Interestingly enough, this ‘infowars’ website belongs to the same Alex Jones that our trolls/spoilers mentioned. I haven’t got much time for Jones, but he’s certainly rattled some cages with his stand against the murderous, racist form of Zionism practiced against Palestine.
Dick Army’s fake grass-roots organisation “FreedomWorks” does exactly the same thing, sending out messages to politicians, newspapers etc. etc. by the million, which look very much as if they came independently from concerned individuals. Attacking progressive message-boards , blogs and so on is part of the process. Which is why they react so much upon being rumbled. There’s nothing to gain by engaging with them – most are “drive-by” style posts, and you would not get these shills to admit that water is wet.
They do target the more popular and important forums – which means they are actually paying a complement to Mr. Murray and the regular participants here. Removal of their posts, registration with delayed activation, or a token payment for registration is the best way of stopping this infestation. After all, the money could be used for a good charity if the blog owner does not want it.
Wow. People around here get their news from an Alex Jones website.
Never saw that coming!
In what must be the best post in the history of the Internet, Jaded
1. claims that
“An Israeli firm controls security at Amsterdam airport by the way. Same with all the 9/11 flights. I guess saying this must make me an ‘anti-semite’ or something, but what the hell!”
and then
2. demands that anyone who disagrees with him be banned.
This is the funniest website ever.
“Wow. People around here get their news from an Alex Jones website.”
Well, if you and yours do not want me to, then I will make sure I will.
Look at this guy, first off he tried to get the Non-Muslims here to hate Muslims with the excuse “They want everyone to become Muslim”, as if there is a religion out there that doesn’t want every person out there to see the light, there own light!
And now he want to set the anti Alex Jones people to start fighting with the Pro.
I am not against A J and I’m not for him. I judge what he says the same way I judge whatever anyone else says.
Now my message to everyone here is, yes we disgree with each other on many things. But we need to unite.
I know next to nothing about Alex Jones, but the fact that he is against the Zionist war machine means we can work with him.
The fact that the likes of Larry do not want us to work with him means we must do so.
The enemy of our enemy is not our enemy.
So yes, we may disagree with the enemy of our enemy, but that doesn’t make him our enemy.
And I bet the likes of Larry are in Alex Jones pages using other names telling him and his to stay away from us! I bet they are there telling them to stay away from Liberals like Craig and Muslim Extremists like myself.
So lets all work togeather and do what the right wing nutters don’t want us to do, which is work togeather and win.
anno
When we get down to the wire politics is now polarised between the grasping Zionist banking New World Order on the one side and conscience and Islam on the other.
Yes I have modified your statement because politicians are only the worker bees in an elitist system of psychopaths willing to sacrifice their own in a quest for total world power.
In words of another here, such a system is evil in its every manifestation. We recall creatures like Madeleine Albright who opined that the murder of 500,000 Iraqi children under the ruthless sanctions regime that she was complicit in enforcing, was a price that was “worth it”, are free to wander the earth, promoting hatred and the threat of inflicting similar evil on Iranian children, while lecturing the world on good and evil. Other war criminals with blood up to their arm-pits, like Tony Blair and George W Bush, cash in on their savagery, richly rewarded for their service to the Judeo-Christian world empire.
Even ‘the peoples’ BBC has been changed by an ‘engineered’ catalyst that saw the murder of Dr David Kelly in a conspiracy to oust the Governors and herald in the ‘Trustees’ (have you noticed the difference) to bring our BBC in tow.
Sorry for the rant but as a veteran who lost his best mate in the Falklands war and having seen the broken bodies in Iraq, the disabled babies, the facially disfigured who are constantly mocked and the thousands of orphans begging for food, I despise those that have cashed in on the savagery, genocide, murder, violence, destruction and hatred.
Yes, conscious rules for me, and those the like of ‘anno’ will prevail; the elitist psychopaths, the capitalist type par excellence, that have tried their best to create a ruling caste will be overcome by using the now feared technology of mass communication to combine our strengths and build a mycelium rich in our substrate that will be used to destroy the matrix of death, power and greed.
By tony_opmoc, December 29 at 2:44 pm #
Whilst, it is possible that this story has been accurately reported, the reaction to it is totally ridiculous. People simply will not put up with regular examination of their most intimate orifices, nor having the use of such orifices barred for significant periods whilst in flight, nor from being prevented from reading a book.
Any such attempts will result in either the complete destruction of the normal airline industry or extremely messy and smelly aircraft. Perhaps they can put straw on the floor instead?
The entire obsession with aircraft security in response to such terrorist attacks – even if genuine – does absolutely nothing to improve aircraft security. It is a complete illusion. Having a dog sniffing Granny’s bum for plastic explosives will not make the aircraft any safer. A real terrorist who is serious, will be sufficiently intelligent to bypass such outrages. He would for example, apply for a job in baggage security – or become an aircraft cleaner – amd do a good job for months until he had gained the trust of his fellow employees. Such people – and there are many thousands at every major airport, do not go through the same security checks as Granny who just wants to see her family at Christmas or go on holiday.
The real motivation, behind this lunacy appears to intimidate and control people who want to travel in aircraft legitimately. It is showing them – who the boss is – and humiliating them to accept even more draconian controls.
Check out the Power of Nightmares to finally realise who the real terrorists are. Its not idiots who set their own pants on fire.
There is nothing particularly special about aircraft with regards to the threat they pose to human life. Schools, Hospitals, Container Ships, Oil, Gas & Chemical Storage Plants, Water and Food supplies offer far more potential to people who want to do dastardly things.
We have got to take all this crap because of 9/11, yet even the 9/11 commission themselves said that the story that they produced was simply not true. Until we investigate and find out who the real terrorists are, then things will continue to get worse, and ordinary completely honest people will continue to be humiliated for simply wanting to travel.
Tony
By tony_opmoc, December 29 at 3:59 pm #
A few airports in certain parts of the World still have smoking rooms, yet rigorously check all your luggage for cigarette lighters and remove them if found.
But you can of course buy a cigarette lighter in duty free…
Most airports thought – well this is silly, but the sillyness was such that no you can’t buy a cigarette lighter – but you can have as many “safety matches” as you like…
So if you are a smoker, the chances are in over 99% of flights you will be allowed – either a cigarette lighter – or potentially – even more dangerous safety matches…
And also in Duty Free in Most parts of the World, once you have had your bottles of water removed, you can openly buy extremely high alcohol content brandy and vodka…
If you really want to – you can set your pants on fire in an aircraft – producing exactly the same flair effect as this Nigerian Son of a Former Government Minister and CEO of a Bank…
Not only that, if you are blonde, beautiful and completely fly-away in your fairy way of wanting to buy “pretty things” in duty free – where you have to show your boarding card to buy even a bottle of extremely expensive water – and lose your boarding card… .
You can get away with me screaming at my wife “You Stupid Cow”…
and so she tries to pass off – at the next level of security – an earlier boarding card…
And they say – No that is the wrong one…
So we sneak back and I say – shut up – and don’t say a word…
We try again and go through together with a huddle – with her hiding behind me. I am a fat bastard – she is really slim…
So we get to the tarmac – and actually get on the aircraft – one of the last ones on…
And he says – where is your boarding card – and our kids are already in their seats… .
And I say – the stupid cow has lost it…
He says she can’t have lost it…
I say – it maybe in her bag – or maybe the kids have it…
So he says – well show it to me later…
Otherwise – I would have left her the other side of the World… .
Now – we will stay at home
I got robbed of all my money the last time on the way to the airport
Its too much trouble
Blackpool here we come
Tony
So Tony – in addition to being an apologist for terrorists – you seem like an actual terrorist. True?
Arsalan Goldberg: Alex Jones is an odd kettle of fish. He likes to be anti-establishment and hits a good note once in a while, but then blows any credibility built up with wild, lurid speculation and outright lies on other topics. I do support a number of his chosen causes, but could not possibly be a AJ “follower”. Right wing stooges only understand about leaders and faithful followers.
This is where we are different to the right-wing. They hear an authoritarian voice, snap the right-arm salute, and fall into line. They’ll goose-step off a cliff following one of their Great Leaders (eg, “Insane” McCain, Michele “crazy-eyes” Bachmann, Sarah “ho from wasilla” Palin, “dead-eye” Dick Cheney, Glen “suicide boy” Beck and so on), and assume their more logical, courageous, compassionate counterparts on the left do the same. However – we don’t want to just follow on the left, and very much have our own opinions. That’s why we disagree with Craig Murray every now and again, for often, and he with us.
Right-wing types, however, are in lockstep when it comes to beliefs such as the following:
– Obama is a secret Muslim
– Obama was born in Kenya, and has no US birth certificate
– Obama is a communist, a Marxist AND and fascist (yeah, go figure…)
– “Death panels” are being set up to kill off republicans/ grannie/ and YOU
– Concentration camps are being set up for republicans
– Obama’s health care will deny coverage for republicans
– Democrats are going to take away peoples’ guns, Bibles, money and freedom
– Every word said on Fox News is true
– Iraq attacked the US on 11/Sept/2001
– Iraq DID have WMD and must have given them away
… and that list could be 100 times longer.
Trolls/spoilers are best ignored, and talked about, not to, as feeding trolls encourages them. Small time paid stooges are best weeded out by the site admin.
These stooges that start hanging out here must be very old, or badly disabled, because – for sure – there’s never been a war they didn’t like, but instead of being over there fighting them Teer’sts for Freed’m an’ Democracy, they let others do the fighting, killing and dying.
Glenn,
You’re really not that intelligent, are you? You live in a world of false dichotomy – i.e., if someone doesn’t believe your crap, they must have the beliefs described by you above.
I don’t believe in any of those above.
But I don’t think you possess the mental capacity to understand that.
And now, after accusing me of being a paid shill who believes that Obama is a secret Muslim, you’re gonna whine and whine and whine because I called you stupid.
Heh Glenn, do you believe, as Anno believes that “nobody here believes that Obama had a Muslim education, except in order to be able to pose as a friend to Islam.”
Do you believe what Jaded wrote:
“An Israeli firm controls security at Amsterdam airport by the way. Same with all the 9/11 flights. I guess saying this must make me an ‘anti-semite’ or something, but what the hell!”
Just how much do you align yourself with Texan right-wing nutjob Alex Jones – as much as Arsalan Goldberg?
Glenn,
I failed to mention that Alex Jones and his crew are also crazy Christians. That is, they believe that the end times are coming, and harbor a number of crazy beliefs.
So you’ve aligned yourself with nutjob Christians and nutjob Muslims – what is wrong with you?
Myself – I haven’t aligned myself with religious crazies of any stripe.
I didn’t know the Alex Jones was a extremist Christian, if that is what he is, I am pleased for him.
I am pleased for all the extremist Jews too.
The people who I hate are the right wing false Christians, and the Zionist false Jews and their false Muslim Friends.
Look, I am a true Muslim so I am antiZionist. While the false Muslims such as Quliam and the Qadianis are all Zionists.
I’ve seen the same thing when Christianity. All the mainstream sects are AntiZionist. While those money grabbing heretics in America are all Zionists.
The same thing applies with Jews. The ones that believe in God and the Torah such as Natricarter and satmer are Antizionists while those open atheists who claim to be Jews purely on racist grounds are Zionists. Even the founder of Zionism Theodor Hertzel was an open atheist.
Borat here never fails to deliver.
Larry the Jesus and the Bible, as well as the Torah, the Quran and the books of every other religion are against America and its wars.
Every Religion forbids usury, while usury is what America is based on. Usury is the cause of all of its wars and Usury is the god the rulers of America and their Zionist masters worship above God.
So I am happy to work with God worshiping Christians like Alex Jones and God worshiping Jews like Natricater against you and your Godless usurious masters as well as all of your godless friends whether they are those atheists in Israel, or those right wingers who wrongly claim to be christian and even those heretics who claim to be Muslim while supporting Zionism and Usury.
Please. Don’t. Feed. The. Trolls.
(They’re not even good at it)
Arsalan, for the non-Muslims around here, could you please explain the penalty of apostacy? That is, if one is born into Islam and thereafter decides to leave it, what is to happen to him/her?
“right wingers who wrongly claim to be christian”
and claim that the USA is a Christian country – set up as such.
How Jesus could associate himself with much of what the USA has done since 9/11 is way, wayyyyy beyond me. I have a bumper sticker that asks, “Who would Jesus torture?” and I’m still using it. Transferred from car to car.
‘Larry’ I’ve told you – stop following me around, concentrate on the ‘job’ and go back to WaPo – that is an order. (lol)
There are various sources for this:
“That commenter on your blog may actually be working for the Israeli government”
http://tinyurl.com/l95vx7
and
“Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers” (which mentions the ‘megaphone’ software)
The Times, July 28, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/2b9rlz
dreoilin I first read about it in a Zionist Israeli newspaper which was advertising for it, asking people to join their cyber army.
Larry your not changing my topic. I’m here to talk about usury and how God hates it. You here to get us to fight amongst ourselves to stop us fighting your usurious masters.
The book of the Jews says:
[Exodus 22:25] “If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.”
The book of the christians says:
Luke 6:35 says “But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great”.
The Book of the Muslims says:
Those who charge usury are in the same position as those controlled by the devil’s influence. This is because they claim that usury is the same as commerce. However, God permits commerce, and prohibits usury. Thus, whoever heeds this commandment from his Lord, and refrains from usury, he may keep his past earnings, and his judgment rests with God. As for those who persist in usury, they incur Hell, wherein they abide forever (Al-Baqarah 2:275)
The book of the Hindus says:
“A brahmana should avoid service of the king, wealth obtained by agriculture, sustenance derived from trade, all kinds of crooked behaviour, companionship with any but his wedded wives, and USURY. That wretched Brahmana who falls away from his duties and whose behaviour becomes wicked, becomes, O king, a Sudra”
The Book of the Bodhists says:
The Buddha mentions five specific kinds of livelihood which bring harm to others and are therefore to be avoided: dealing in weapons, in living beings (including raising animals for slaughter as well as slave trade and prostitution), in meat production and butchery, in poisons, and in intoxicants (AN 5:177). He further names several dishonest means of gaining wealth which fall under wrong livelihood: practicing deceit, treachery, soothsaying, trickery, and usury (MN 117).
So it doesn’t matter what religion someone believes in. God Hates Usury, and God hates your usurious Zionist masters, and the usury America is based on.
dreoilin: Perhaps you haven’t heard of the newspeak Bible, which aims to get rid of all the “liberal bias” which swamps the New Testament. So saying the meek will inherit the earth, that blessed are the poor, this that you do for the least amongst you you do in My name etc. etc. will all be done away with.
Thus:
“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for
a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:24)
Becomes:
“It is easier for […] a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”
(New, Improved Matthew 19:24)
Those Calvinists had it right all along!
Here’s where these whack-jobs go to hone their ideas:
http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project
“Who would Jesus torture?” is a good rejoinder to the right-wing e-van-gell-ic-al Kristians, who no more want peace on Earth or to be a Good Samaritan than a cat bids peace to all mice. “Who would Jesus bomb?” is another. Maybe another still, if not so pithy, would be “Would Jesus sign up to invade and occupy a country which never attacked us?” But the sniveling cowards on the right would answer “anyone except me” (to the torture question), “Every brown-skinned people” (to the bombing question), and “somebody else, but not me, no sir!” (to the “who will sign up for the armed services” question).
“Jesus and the Bible, as well as the Torah, the Quran and the books of every other religion are against America and its wars.”
–Arsalan Goldberg
So many religions have what’s often called the “golden rule” or “the ethic of reciprocity”, that it has a page to itself on Wiki, with examples that pre-date all the major (current) religions. Known to Christians as “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Unfortunately, there seems to be little of it around among certain Christians these days.
Those who rant against gays, claim to be pro-life but are also pro-death penalty, pro-war and pro-massive-military-spending in the USA (while against any spending on ‘public option’ health care) and who often/mostly proclaim themselves Christian, appear to be operating on the basis that, “if we *think* that you *may* have killed one of us, we will kill thousands of you in revenge for each of those people, and poison your land and deform your children for generations”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule_(ethics)
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“Perhaps you haven’t heard of the newspeak Bible”
–Glenn
Read about it recently and I thought, NOW I’ve seen everything!