Happy Christmas Everybody!!
I just saw an eyewitness on BBC TV News recount that the Nigerian man who set fire to his leg on a Delta flight was shouting “about Afghanistan”. Which proves yet again that by occupying Afghanistan we are provoking, not preventing, attempted terrorism.
Regular readers know that I fly out of Schiphol some thirty times a year. Security there is ultra tight – in fact a real pain in the neck – with intensive searches and x rays actually at gate. The non-explosive and non-dangerous (as it proved) substance he had might very well prove to be duty free alcohol – it is being described by the US authorities as “incendiary” rather than “explosive”. But the BBC is still referring to an “Explosive mixture”, even though it plainly was not “explosive” as it did not explode.
It seems to me most improbable that if Abdul Faroukh really was working for Al-Qaida, he would have been quite so open about it, as it is claimed he is being. But we will doubtless see this incident ramped up more and more to justify the occupation of Afghanistan. A BBC “security correspondent” is waffling on even now about “sophisticated explosive devices”. In fact it sounds as about as effective as a christmas cracker.
Don’t let it spoil your turkey sandwiches. How long before Brown is on screen explaining this is why we have to be in Afghanistan?
Our governments are holy since they lend to the banks without interest or difficult repayment plans.
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I find it remarkable how the historical Jesus didnt write anything down himself, that he just left his messages to be reported by his followers. That may have been a mistake.
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Glenn, i particularly rated your summary of alex jones.
“So it doesn’t matter what religion someone believes in. God Hates Usury, and God hates your usurious Zionist masters, and the usury America is based on.”
–Arsalan
As far as I know, the Roman Catholic Church was still condemning usury in the 12th and 13th centuries.
Tsk tsk, re-drafting mid-post often turns out a mess:
Correction to what I posted at at December 29, 2009 9:47 PM
“if we *think* that you *may* have killed one of us, we will kill thousands of you in revenge for that person, and poison your land and deform your children for generations”.
Heh Glenn, do you believe, as Anno believes that “nobody here believes that Obama had a Muslim education, except in order to be able to pose as a friend to Islam.”
Do you believe what Jaded wrote:
“An Israeli firm controls security at Amsterdam airport by the way. Same with all the 9/11 flights. I guess saying this must make me an ‘anti-semite’ or something, but what the hell!”
Just how much do you align yourself with Texan right-wing nutjob Alex Jones – as much as Arsalan Goldberg?
Arsalan, for the non-Muslims around here, could you please explain the penalty of apostacy? That is, if one is born into Islam and thereafter decides to leave it, what is to happen to him/her?
“I find it remarkable how the historical Jesus didnt write anything down himself”
Neither did the historical Zeus, or the historical Osiris, or the historical Dionysus, or the historical Father Christmas for that matter, so par for the course really. Just goes to show that these half man, half divine saviours of humanity were an illiterate bunch.
Yep, this man is a sad case, just like the “shoe bomber”, not a serious threat – and his father had even warned officials at the US embassy in Nigeria about his contacts with Al Qa’ida well in advance.
I feel sorry for him, not afraid of him.
Al Qaeda, as a terrorist organisation, doesn’t exist Duncan. It’s a CIA fiction perpetuated through the mass media.
If you read the writings of Larry and his right wing gang you will soon realise that illiteracy has its merits.
Larry you are asking the question for yourself and not for the non-Muslims here. So if you want to change the topic you will have to do so yourself without my help.
If you want to know what Islam says on any issue go read the book of Islam.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/
So if Non-Muslims here want to answer to that question or any other about Islam they can go find it themselves by reading the Quran.
I prefer talking about what you are trying to stop me talking about by changing the topic.
And that is America and how God hates it. God hates the fact that a bunch of Europeans went down there and killed the native population to steal their land. God hates the fact that they used shoes to stamp on the heads of native babies to save money on bullets. God hates the fact that you call that bringing freedom and democracy to the natives and still regard the killers as heroes. God hates the fact that America killed 2.5 million Vietnamese for no one knows what reason, and still treats those murderers as heroes. God hates the fact that America starves most of the world with its usury. God hates what America is doing to this planet with all the CO2 it produces. In other words, God hates you and God hates your Zionist usurious bastards that you worship above God.
MJ, I didnt mean to get stuck in. Historicaly speaking, Jesus was at least a very influential mystic, not a mythological character. Socrates didnt write anything himself either, but was better documented by his fellows.
Regardless of the bombers character etc. it is reported that he did very nearly bring down the plane, AND that security forces once again botched warnings and proceedures. I dread to wonder wether our accident prone security forces expected him to detonate or not.
Channel 4 News reported this evening that he was on MI5’s ‘radar’.
http://tinyurl.com/yj342wd
crab: I was only engaging in a bit of light-hearted banter, but I’m not aware of any good evidence that he was anything other than a mythological character. Eastern religions were full of half man half divine saviours with near-identical CVs: Horus, Mithras, Dionysus and Krishna to name but a few. There’s nothing to suggest JC should be seen any differently.
Arsalan Goldberg, even if I grant to you that (i) the Abrahamic God exists and (ii) he’s angry at America, I must point out that your god is quite an ineffective fellow. When can I expect your silly god to begin his reign of terror on America?
And the penalty for a person born into Islam and leaving your particular Middle Eastern cult is death. Everyone knows that.
Btw I just drew a picture of Mohammed and crossed it out. How ’bout them apples?
Early Christians never believed he was a halfman half god. They like Muslims believed that he was a Prophet of God like the Prophets who came before him, Abraham, Moses etc.
I mean really, Arsalan, if your god really does hate my usurious Zionist masters, and your god is all-powerful, wouldn’t your god have done something about it by now? It must be the case that your god really doesn’t care about you.
And since your god doesn’t seem to himself do anything about the situation, do you think he might use young Middle Eastern men as instruments of his rage? Would he be justified in doing so?
To all the non-Muslims English types at this blog – do you agree that god hates the usurious Zionist masters of America?Does this seem like the sort of discourse that should be tolerated?
Edward Stourton who has been replaced by total-dumb-down Justin Webb on Radio 4’s Today programme, knocked one million off the civilian casualty figure for the war in Iraq in his programme this week, Defining the Decade. Until recently the UK had concealed the figure of 60 million African Muslims who were exported in the Slave Trade. Maybe more statistics of UK colonialism will emerge in future.
But the Zionist controllers at the beeb may regret upsetting a member of the Stourton family, which has stubbornly resisted abandoning its Roman Catholic faith for the last four hundred years.
Stubborn-ness is the one quality that the fly-by-night Zio-pawns can’t deal with. If you don’t believe me, ask our soldiers in Afghanistan.
“Karzai condemns US for killing school children”
Afghan President Hamid Karzai protests the US military’s targeting of civilians after a US raid killed at least eight school children …
NATO’s International Security Assistance Force, also known as ISAF, has reportedly said it had no information on any operations or casualties in Kunar.
But a senior Western military official disclosed that US special forces have been conducting operations in the border regions of Kunar.
“They have been killing a lot of Taliban and capturing a lot of Taliban” during operations conducted independently of NATO and coalition forces, he told AFP on condition of anonymity.
The indiscriminate targeting of civilians prompted Kunar parliamentary representatives to storm out of an important debate on appointments to Karzai’s new cabinet in a show of protests.
Shuja Al-Malik, one of the parliamentarians representing Kunar, confirmed that “all the children were 12 to 18-year-olds belonging to an elementary religious school,” the BBC Persian reported.
Haji Farid, a lawmaker from the Kapisa province, said “every time an American soldier gets killed, they bomb an entire village. The president should determine to whom this country belongs. If [it belongs to] us, then the foreigners are bound to go by our rules.”
Ever-increasing civilian deaths in the 8 years of large foreign military presence since the US-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 have exhausted people in the war-weary nation.
http://tinyurl.com/yafg6yp
How ’bout them oranges?
I see the ‘pants-bomber’ man studied at University College London.
It must be those tutors…
http://tinyurl.com/ydjkhv5
Arsalan Goldberg: Damned well said. An atheist like myself can fully appreciate your calling these right-wing republican utter hypocrite “christians” for the sneaks, cowards and liars they are, as you do while pointing out how much their baby Jaysus would be so unhappy at their utterly un-Christian practices.
I’d recommend completely ignoring these thugs, weasels, cowardly apologists and sore losers when they post on this board. Their 100% negative ravings infest every progressive outlet, even those only giving solid news where comments are allowed (for example, http://www.rawstory.com). There are thousands of examples there, that rawstory is no longer what it was, it’s a lefty-conspiracy site, that it’s all funded by George Soros and (err… err.. who else, mass’r?), and that Big Business is who we should actually salute and trust. You can trust these people making right-wing comments. Because they sound tough/n’/hard and call everyone who disagrees fools.
Tough like Dick Cheney, Glen Beck, Dubbya himself, Limbaugh, Ashcroft, John Bolton, “Newt” Gingrich, Giuliani, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Richard Perl, Ken Starr, Wolfowitz and Michael “Savage” Weiner… the whole bloody lot of them. Utter, baseless cowards, hiding being the Stars&Stripes banner while demanding others make the Ultimate Sacrifice… for what, again? Oh yessir, for making their paymasters ever richer.
http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks/
Strange that these filthy, cowardly, murderous and bloodthirsty bastards who infest these blogs would never consider Military Service for themselves or their families. Craven scum, all of them. They should be begging for forgiveness for their crime of existing, instead of posting their “anti-left” excuses here.
I’m waiting for one of these miserable Yankee republican apologists, having entirely lost their game in the US to the “tea-baggers” (heh!), tell us in the UK that we ought to be doing things _their_ way, and all will become good and well in the world. They just don’t understand that non-Americans don’t knee-jerk a “yessir!” response to their prepared drivel.
I should mention, in case it wasn’t obvious… no “popular” right winger of any note, particularly in the media, has ever served a single day in the military. Despite all the hard talk, _every last one_ of these right-wing republicans is an utter coward, praising and promoting war and death, while hiding behind a very safe job. No service in the military, ever. Cowards, sneaks and liars. Republicans don’t like the hard end of their principles… that’s for others!
There is not one poster on this site who calls for war, that is not sitting comfortably at home. Worthless, cowardly, hypocritical, miserable bastards they are to a man (if they can be extended that description).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si0WTCMrksw
I hate these cowardly republicans. I _hate_ them. And they hate me. I welcome their hatred.
Heh Glenn, do you believe, as Anno believes that “nobody here believes that Obama had a Muslim education, except in order to be able to pose as a friend to Islam.”
Do you believe what Jaded wrote:
“An Israeli firm controls security at Amsterdam airport by the way. Same with all the 9/11 flights. I guess saying this must make me an ‘anti-semite’ or something, but what the hell!”
Just how much do you align yourself with Texan right-wing nutjob Alex Jones – as much as Arsalan Goldberg?
Glenn, we get it. You’re a hateful person. And not a very smart one, given that you’re convinced that I’m a Republican because I disagree with you. But I’m also accused of being an Israeli – which is it, folks?
I once attended a 911 conspiracy movie here in the States and asked a few questions and otherwise indicated that I didn’t agree with the movie. I was instantly labeled FBI, Secret Service and/or CIA. I didn’t mind it, though – these people were obviously a bit mentally ill.
The problem with Britain is that a great number of educated people like Glenn take their cues from Americans who suffer from narcissistic personality disorder and minor forms of schizophrenia and autism.
Again, Glenn, you’re just a hateful, clueless person. The more you write, the more any reasonable observer is convinced of this.
Yes, Al Qaeda is a CIA fiction perpetuated by the mass media with strong backing by Mossad, MI5 and MI6. Yes, that’s it. 😉
The refreshing thing about Craig’s blog is that his briefest posts often hit the nail right on the head.This thread has continued unabated for days by the looks of it.
Yea,the guy’s too busy to moderate comments so Mossad undesirables et al get to throw in their penny worth.
So what? We can spot them a mile off.
What shouldn’t happen is that threads like this get moderated.It’s time consuming and detracts from the freedom of expression that makes the site so exciting in the first place.
If you don’t like the comments don’t read them!
My own view on the said Y-Front bomber is that from the way it’s being hyped by the BBC terrorologist team and Frank (Ironside) Gardiner you know from the get-go it’s state-sponsored false-flag terror yet again.
Israeli front-company involvement in Amsterdam airport security and the reports re-the Y-Fronts gaining access with the aid of an unidentified airport official point to the same dirty tricks psy-war ops teams.
Shampoo,shoe and now underpants bombers should wreak MI6-Mossad patsy to anyone with a brain half the size of a walnut.
People who are still taken in by such theatre and corporate media-sponsored hysteria must be retarded.Such incidents are patently faked not part of some Jihadist fight-back against the “War on Terror”.You might just as well be living in a cave wired up to receive the regular doses of corporate disinformation hysteria on which your parallel universe is constructed.
Get a life go to:
alquaedadoesntexist.com
You should need to understand something about the way false-flag terror has been instrumentalized by elites to forward their geopolitical aspirations and to control their domestic populations at home.
Larry, you seem to know what’s what, please could you explain why building 7 collapsed ?
7WTC collapsed because a large paraffin tank blew up, caught on fire by molten steel from one of the towers. It had been weakened by a large explosion around 9:30am witnessed by two Port Authority personnel who had reported for duty but were told to stand down.
Wait a minute – I think something is wrong with this account – let me check…
Larry – stand down – I outrank you – stop gathering intel for the watch list!
Larry, there’s no need to resort to jibes about drawing a picture of the prophet Mohammed and defacing it. To say that is to insult people who aren’t responsible for the demented conspiracy theories on offer here.
For everyone else I have provided a condensed version of this thread. Please let me know if I have missed anyone:
http://angrysoba.blogspot.com/2009/12/british-ambassador-and-his-loony.html
Willy Loman’s blog article on PETN:
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/12/29/abcs-50-gms-of-petn-video-is-propaganda-and-i-have-the-proof/
It would seem that there is a whiff of propaganda in the air. But to what extent?