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Fuck off Craig Murray. That just cheapens your site and makes you look like an idiot. Not serious.
hehe, why so serious eddie?
“IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE” – Craig Murray predicted a ‘WHITEWASH’ and now we have it!
An slimy,inexorable push towards a conclusion that the Iraq war was legal.
In March 2002, Blair received legal advice from the Foreign Office that an attack on Iraq was illegal under international law.
I await the testimony of Lord Goldsmith!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING BASTARDS HAVE LOST ALL HONOUR.
The War and Occupation in Iraq are Illegal…
Much has been said and written about America’s war, and occupation of Iraq. Amongst the community of nations of the world, and within the minds of the citizens of the world, two statements might succinctly clarify the issues of war and occupation in Iraq. The war was illegal under international law. The occupation remains illegal under international law.
The point is: ” Article 2(3) and 2(4) of the United Nations Charter read:
” (3) All member states shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.”
” (4) All members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.”
Sounds simple, reasonable and clear enough. Let me add that there are two and only two exceptions to the Charter’s Article 2(4) prohibition against the use of unilateralist force
” … if an armed attack occurs… ” (or is imminent) as contemplated by Article 51 of the UN Charter is one. Authorisation by the Security Council is the other.”
The Charter of the United Nations has quite clear provisions aimed at the preservation of international peace. President Bush and Prime Minster Blair have set their own standards, rules, and pattern of conduct in response to Iraq. Their standards, rules, and conduct auger well for future wars and remain manifestly ?” illegal.
Courtenay, how’d that work out in Darfur?
i’m with you all the way Mark, but these liars in charge of us are already rigging their new period in power with more lies, whether its about the economy, their dismal environmental record or their own decrepid self serving existence.
Nothing has happened and we are facing an election with no choices but to vote for two pasrties who can’t see eye to eye, who are having some identical policies in many areas, but who have not yet realised that they cannot scream for PR and coalitions without actually being prepared to actively get into one.
I’m talking of the Greens and Lib Dems here.
This is the most dire failings of the FPTP system and I think that many people will vote for net curtain fascists instead.
Independents have failed to materialise, there are the odd ones but no concerted active campaign that highlights the need to take power away from our party structures and the dogmatic insistence on doing more of the same. We are well and truly doomed.
Screw Chilcot and his privvy councillors, screw the lot of them and may they all die a horrible death.
There is nothing honourable about these criminals and anybody who votes for them is guilty of covering up their warcrimes.
“We will march again – this time to demand justice and a real inquiry.”
Don’t you think you might turn a lot of people off with your crazy 911 conspiracies?
Forvive me for saying so Larry, but you’re starting to become just a little tedious.
There is nowt wrong with a beard sir!
Yes, ingo. Off the top of my head we surely need a network of independents and campaigners, supporting each other. We need planning for general elections. We need emergency plans for by elections. We need an assessment of key figures to stand against and most likely places to stand. Is it being done? Is it now too late? Is anybody thinking beyond this election to the next one?
I lost my best mate in the Falklands war – burnt to death by the exhaust of an Exocet missile – but that was a ‘just’ war, a war in which our people, our land was at risk and invaded. The British people were 99% with that war – I even collected the magazines, bound and handed to my son for posterity.
The Iraq war was murder – no excuses – no obfustication – no regime change ballshit – no playing with the numbers – no legality – no justification just, just complete and utter genocide, murder of the innocent, period.
Blair is a war criminal – guilty.
Some time ago now I wrote to the secretary of Dr Barnardo – the children’s charity, stating, ‘why should the wife of a man who murdered so many children be elected President of a children’s charity?’
She was soon succeeded by Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cornwall – an honourable choice.
After my letter PM Blair visited my son’s school, Walton High, and ensured a £3M+ grant for floodlit football pitches in ground behind the school complex.
Guilt?
Tedious? I’m just getting started.
I’ll keep visiting this blog until Craig Murray calls you 911 conspiracy freaks out as the silly nutters that you are.
Mark Golding you are an ignorant nincompoop and your figures are bilge. 2 million marched? 58 million didn’t. 1.3 million dead? Not according to IBC. And the vast majority of the dead are muslims killed by other muslims. Galloway’s glorious resistance who drive suicide bombs into markets.
Illegal? Sez who? The Dutch? Don’t make me laugh. Talk to the Kurds about your silly views and see what response they give you. What’s this, the fifth inquiry.? It’s all getting rather dull.
Ho hum. OK then Larry, I’ve a left a moronic comment for you under the Saddam picture. Hope you enjoy it.
Larry,
Don’t even go there my friend – you will lose. I have asked for a proper inquiry into 9/11 and 7/7 for that matter.
200 senior American military officers have called for an inquiry – here are their names:
It always makes you sleep better in your bed when military personnel backup your condemnation of government actions – like the 9/11 cover-up…
All these fine men and women call for a proper investigation:-
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman PhD USAF (ret)
“official theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash”
Lt. Jeff Dahlstrom USAF (ret)
“Everything that seemed real[9/11]turned out to be fake”
“Treason; a false flag operation”
Capt. Daniel Davis US Army (ret)
“something is rotten in the state”
Major Jon I Fox US Marines (ret)
“I knew from personal experience they [government] were lying”
Commander Ralph Kolstad US Navy (ret)
“something stinks to high heaven [9/11]”
Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski PhD USAF (ret) – Pentagon
“Secretary of Defense [Donald Rumsfeld] referred to a “missile attack”
Lt. Col. Shelton Lankford DFC US Marines (ret)
“We demand an independent, honest and thorough investigation[9/11]”
Lt. Col. Jeff Latas USAF DFC (ret)
“Americans need to demand further investigation[9/11]
Capt. Eric H May US Army (ret)
“a plot by rogue elements of government”
Commander Ted Muga US Navy (ret)
“not one of the 4 hijacked planes ever transponded a hijack code-
which is most, most unusual…”
Col. George Nelson MBA USAF (ret)
“the most heinous conspiracy in our countries history[9/11]”
Maj. John Newman PhD Assistant Director National Security
“the immediate investigation was never addressed”
Capt. Omar Pradhan USAF
“I warmly endorse the pursuit of comprehensive truth[9/11]”
Col. Ronald D Ray US Marines (ret)
“the dog that doesn’t hunt”[9/11]
Lt. Col. Guy S Razer MS USAF (ret)
“It is time to take our country back”
“2 million marched? 58 million didn’t”.
eddie, it was the biggest demonstration in British history. To suggest that everyone who didn’t go must therefore have supported the invasion is absurd.
“Illegal? Sez who?”
There were Blair’s own legal advisers. There are many lawyers expert in International Law. There’s Kofi Anan of course. And why are we supposed to laugh at the Dutch?
eddie,
Personal attacks describe admirably who you are – yes?
“It’s all getting rather dull”
dull or irritating? I suspect the latter. Heh what you done boy for the impoverished, the maimed and disabled in Iraq; the kids in Gaza hit by shells in a UN GPS aware compound? Have you served your country? So don’t bovver me wiv yr crap retaliations!
Go to bed and ponder your navel!
“the kids in Gaza hit by shells”
Don’t go there Mark. Eddie thinks the surgeon David Halpin is a “menace to society” because he set up a charity to help Palestinian children.
eddie spat:
“Illegal? Sez who? The Dutch? Don’t make me laugh. Talk to the Kurds about your silly views and see what response they give you. What’s this, the fifth inquiry.? It’s all getting rather dull.”
hey you like this thread, you’ve come out of your smeary hole like a rabbit on fire.
Off course it was illegal and the UN, even Britains top law bender said so a year before the invasion. According to Geoff Hoons guist today, the autorney general gave him a ticking off for muttering that we had enough powers to invade Iraq.
Who says it was legal then eddie? McDonald Douglas, Blackwater,Netanyahu?
Did all these top European politicians who warned against attacking Iraq say that it was legal? apart from that mafiosi/CIA stooge Berlusconi and some other dependents?
Why when after eight weeks of bombing mud huts in Afghanistan did the US not stop their indiscriminate revenge killing? and why did they not down those two Saudi planes fleeing from investigation, the only civilian aircraft allowed flying in the whole fucking USof A. Why did general myers go back into a meeting with a low ranking official when told of the first plane attack? why did he not scramble fighter planes as it was normal in such case?
You piss pot general really make me cringe, how dare you think that the international victims of 911 don’t deserve an INDEPENDENT inquiry, instead of that cangaroo court congessional debacle.
How come you felt the need to surpress free travel and nail down your fellow americans with the patriot act and the Home defence act, etc.?
Cause you were utterly useless in stopping these scoundrels, you trained these terrorists to fly, watched them do it, and when they did, you sat there on your hands and now you have the fucking gall to spit at us for wanting real justice?
be away with you eddie, you have no leg to stand on. I’m not for conspiracies, but some sort of justice will come forward one day and you will reap as you have sown.
And Eddie, your country is home to a plethora of ex terrorists, school of the America’s ring any bell.
Stop trying to feed us your schmalz, it doe not work on this blog eddie, relent and light an extra candle for gaza this weekend.
Mark, I thought Captain Eric May sounded familiar …
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/james-von-brunn-vs-capt-eric-h-may-on-race-and-jews-by-maj-william-b-fox/
Mark, really, are they all “fine men and women”?
“All these fine men and women call for a proper investigation:-”
Mark, I absolutely DARE YOU to make sense of the following, written by your hero Captain Eric May:
http://barcelona.indymedia.org/newswire/display/329926/index.php
Ingo – apart from your general incoherence (cangaroo?) and your ad-hominem bile you and the others don’t address the facts. IBC say around 98,000 have died in Iraq – check it out. Their research has more authority than any other. Iraq has a population of 31 million, you can do the maths for yourself. The figure quoted above of 1.3 million is rubbish. 58 million did not march; they may or may not have supported the invasion but there were plenty of opinion polls around at the time and since when did we have democracy linked to the numbers on the streets? Innocent until proven guilty is a fundamental of UK and international law. So tell me sonny who exactly has been found guilty of any illegality? You throw these words like war criminal around and you don’t even know what you mean. It’s patehtic. You seem to think I am American, I am not.
MJ I don’t think David Halpin is a menace for that reason and you know it quite well, so don’t make things up.
Heh Mark, why’d you stop at Razer by the way? Was it because the next one was Scott Ritter?
BWWWWWAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn, I hope angrysoba comes back to witness Captain Eric May cited with authority by a top commenter at this blog.
Listen Eddie,
Never throw Iraq numbers at me, I worked with the Iraq doctors since 2004 doctorsforiraq.org and I know the figure is over 1 million.
But numbers are meaningless, fuck numbers! the misery, the distraught Iraqi mothers, the teens without legs or arms, the babies dying of induced cancer – that is what matters to me – yes – pain and suffering – long term to boot – so as I said – leave this house unless you have something constructive and meaningful to add to the thread.
“I absolutely DARE YOU to make sense of the following, written by your hero Captain Eric May”
Don’t worry about it Larry. It’s an analysis of deviously slanted interview techniques. A bit subtle for some.
Mark, if you hadn’t stopped prior to Ritter, you would have come across General Albert Stubblebine.
Did you happen to see The Men Who Stare At Goats?
Since he’s also on the list, is he a “fine man”?
Will you be walking into a wall any time soon?
(btw Craig Murray thinks you’re a nut for believing in 911 conspiracy nonsense)
MJ – so “Captain Eric May” didn’t think that the Holocaust shooting was a false flag?
Do some research.
MJ, was your “Captain Eric May” an actual captain, or was he a captain in a “ghost troop army”?
http://www.vfvs.com/GhostTroopCaptainEricMay.html
** Also, if his buddy von Brunn, the Holocaust Museum shooter, had served in the U.S. armed forces, would you now be citing him as authority?