One of the tinier income flows of the “security industry” amongst the billions of cash they have made from the War on Terror, is the money they get from television punditry. This is a double whammy as they get paid to stoke up the climate of fear on which they thrive.
Sky News have had two different security “experts” on in the last ten minutes, both assuring us how deadly serious last night’s incident on Emirates was, and that the police response was “Proportionate” and necessary. The Sky presenters repeated the mantra of proportionate action too.
Complete bollocks. Common sense seems to have gone out of the window completely. I don’t know exactly what Al-Qaida teach their potential bombers in the Yemen. Apparently they don’t teach them that you can’t blow up commercial explosive without a detonator, in the case of the underpants bomber. The UK authorities apparently believe they also don’t tell them not to let the flight crew know about the bomb, before the plane takes off.
According to “security expert” Chris from Bolton, the men may have been making a joke among themselves which the cabin staff overheard. Something like “Did you remember the bomb Jim?” “Don’t worry it’s in the hold”.
The authorities are very keen to introduce suspect profiling, to make sure Muslims get worked over. Here is a clue for suspect profiling: terrorists don’t tell you about the bomb in advance.
Barbara, you may not realise there’s a little side effect to you not exercising some common sense when “shopping” someone.
Imagine you just shopped someone with a bad sense of humour, hell, maybe two because most conversations involve two people to start with.
While the police is dealing with the volume of idiots and people with a working sense of humour, the real terrorist happily walks on board with his nether parts stuffed with explosives.
Conclusion: by not thinking (panicking) you just overloaded the one resource which could have kept him off the plane. That is in general the consequence of handling symptoms instead of causes: we take our eye of the ball and waste precious resources.
I go back to my observation about London during the IRA days: the police did their job well, with little harassment of people, and people just got on with their lives. In addition, none of the blasts received that much coverage, another IMMENSE factor in increasing the threat.
Let’s not forget what a terrorist aims for – that’s precisely what you need to deny those people. The problem is that bad news sells newspapers, bad laws, and bad ideas in general.
In short, nothing good comes from panic.
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@ technicolour
Once again you’ve gone to ridiculous lengths. If people overhear stupid numbskull talk of bringing a bomb onto a plane, it should be brought to the attention of the cabin crew. period.
Throw them off the plane and into a cell for the night to sober up and fine them for the cost of the stupidity. Let them vent their stupidities in their local pub. Drag yourself along to join in the good laugh. It the near exact equivalent of shouting “Fire” in a cinema. Utterly irresponsible and deserving of some kind of punishment.
Why should people (rationally or not) have a proverbial gun put in their mouth for 7 hours in fear that the time has come to say goodbye to their loved ones sitting beside them on the plane? You are very callous.
That you went running to a dictionary to look-up, cut and paste a dictionary definition of “Se
Apostate:
‘Yep,the perpetual war we’re in now is no different from all the others down through the centuries:Jew-sponsored.’
That’s a dangerous comment to make. You should qualify it by stating that we are just talking about a few hundred deranged sickos. Moreover, they are not just from Israel. 99.99% of the Jewish people are just as brainwashed as our own populations and innocent of any wrongdoing in this. I don’t care about the past. I care about the present and the future. Let’s not generalise and turn this into a racial/religious thing. You will just give ammo to the shills.
Gosh, lwtc, in this case you have a very rosy view of British justice (and seemingly an authoritarian reliance on it) for someone who otherwise doesn’t.
A “spoonerism” is where one or more letters at the start of two or more words are swapped to provide new meaning: eg cunning stunt; queer old dean etc. It also implies some kind of thought or wit. “Israehell” is not a spoonerism. I’ve said what I think of it; as have dreolin and CheebaCow. I also find the term Zio-spook redundant, hysterical, insulting and childish, by the way.
How else should I ‘define’ semitic? Make it up, perhaps?
Apostate
‘Yep,the perpetual war we’re in now is no different from all the others down through the centuries:Jew-sponsored.’
That’s completely untrue and really does not help any discussion here.
Jesus, did ‘apostate’ really say ‘Jew sponsored?’ It is really tragic that Muslim fundamentalists are in agreement with the UK’s right wing fundamentalists on this, since the latter would wipe out the former in a second given the chance.I repeat, semitic people, all of them, are being set up, yet again.
Apostate, you foaming weirdo:
“Yemen was the site for the USS Cole false-flag attack with its unmissable similarity to other Israeli ops like Liberty and Achile Lauro-all blamed on muslims.”
This is ridiculous. What similarities do the attacks on the USS Cole, the USS Liberty and the Achille Lauro have? Oh, they were all on water. And…? Nothing else.
“Yep,the perpetual war we’re in now is no different from all the others down through the centuries:Jew-sponsored.”
Well, another example of naked anti-semitism.
I suppose he meant to say “Zionist”, right?
Oh, just read apostate’s post. Hmm. I prescribe a spell on a kibbutz.
Fair enough, Jaded and MJ denounced Apostate’s remark. There’s hope for you two yet. Although Jaded, you could lose the inverted commas when you talk about the Holocaust.
btw angrysoba, you seem to have acted as some kind of psychological emetic. hurrah.
anticant, if you’re reading, do you remember that thread with the chap pretending to be reasonable but actually going on about not having mixed race grandchildren & advocating forced repatriation? hope you are very well, by the way.
angrysoba: I think MS & MJ are different by the way. MJ seems to be suggesting that Nazi concentration camps were monitored by the IRC, on another thread. Next time someone like Griffin comes on, you can deal with him 🙂
–> Why wasn’t suspected offender of the Geneva Conventions, Doron Almog, arrested while sitting in a plane stationary on the runway in a British airport, but some drunk idiots sitting on a plane taxiing for takeoff from a British airport were?
Because to do so would be anti-Se
Jaded:
‘You will just give ammo to the shills.’
Sigh, how’s the work going Soba? Good wage this week? Enjoy it while it lasts buddy. Enjoy it while it lasts… 🙂
no, because to do so would mean holding our ‘elected representatives’ to account for their crimes; and which politician today will back that? taking it out on some lower class oiks is another matter.
and yet you play straight into their hands by seeing it as some kind of pro semitism! are you really that blinded by the divide and rule propaganda?
and what are these dots in between ‘semitic’? is it some kind of code known only to you and lwtc?
“btw angrysoba, you seem to have acted as some kind of psychological emetic. hurrah.”
Well, I hope you mean that in a good way.
“I think MS & MJ are different by the way.”
Yes, MJ and I are engaged in a pleasant discussion about how his 9/11 “theories” are wrong. MS and I had a brief discussion about how his understanding of Holocaust denial is wrong.
I don’t think either of them are Holocaust deniers…
…speaking of which.
Jaded: “Sigh, how’s the work going Soba? Good wage this week? Enjoy it while it lasts buddy. Enjoy it while it lasts… :-)”
Don’t tell me. I’ll be one of the first on the scaffold come Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura’s revolution when all you crazed and wild-eyed conspiracists get to do to the shills what you fantasise the New World Order wants to do to you.
As long as my FEMA camp is comfortable for my short stay between the dock and the gallows then whatever.
Agrysoba:
‘Don’t tell me. I’ll be one of the first on the scaffold come Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura’s revolution when all you crazed and wild-eyed conspiracists get to do to the shills what you fantasise the New World Order wants to do to you.
As long as my FEMA camp is comfortable for my short stay between the dock and the gallows then whatever.’
No, it will simply mean getting off your lazy arse to do some real work instead off spreading propaganda and lies from your keyboard. It will probably be a bit of a culture shock to your existence. You are a disgusting, vile little weasel. I actually hope you wake up and see sense before being made redundant for the good of your own ‘being’. To be honest, I don’t hold much hope for you, but who knows… Good luck angrysoba.
For a rational analysis of the “pants bomber” and the impact on airport security I recommend this piece by Lewis Page writing in The Register
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/08/mutallab_comment/
Page is a former SBS (Special Boat Squadron) Bomb disposal expert turned journalist so he really knows what he is talking about.
His conclusion is much the same as Craig’s. The risk from terrorists is minute.
“No, it will simply mean getting off your lazy arse to do some real work instead off spreading propaganda and lies from your keyboard.”
I do plenty of real work. I’m on holiday, so screw you.
“You are a disgusting, vile little weasel.”
And you’re a dung beetle. A dung beetle that all the other dung beetles think smells particularly bad.
This is a bit childish and I would ask if you wouldn’t mind returning to the subject of the thread but I suppose once you’ve uttered, “INSIDE JOB! THE ISRAELHELLIES DID IT!” on just about every thread there isn’t much more analysis you could give is there?
Jaded, you seem to have a confusing, split keyboard personality. You’re not alone, but you seem to be not only quoting yourself, but veering between the reasonable to this:
You are a disgusting, vile little weasel. I actually hope you wake up and see sense before being made redundant for the good of your own ‘being’.
That is is a vile little post, in fact. Note I am not resorting to ad hominem attacks.
Sure thing shillsters… :-0
To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if a shill made the comment by ‘Apostate’ either…
“To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if a shill made the comment by ‘Apostate’ either…”
That would be so shillish!
I find this quite inconsistent:
**–> Why wasn’t suspected offender of the Geneva Conventions, Doron Almog, arrested while sitting in a plane stationary on the runway in a British airport, but some drunk idiots sitting on a plane taxiing for takeoff from a British airport were? <–**
I seem to be alone in thinking it is exemplorary of something
Angrysoba:
‘That would be so shillish!’
Devilishly so… 😉
shill (shl) Slang
n.
One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
Huh?
Since joking is illegal, here is an interview (done by a Mr. I.) with an important person called G.B. Please note that any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.
I: You’ve always believed in Values, have you not?
G.B.: Indeed I have.
I: So you still believe in them, after gaining power?
G.B.: Of course. Just different ones, that’s all. But they are still Values!
I: So what is the most important one?
G.B.: Power. You can’t do anything without it. Mine, specifically – after all, I can’t do anything without it.
I: What about starving the Army of resources in Helmand so that they have to pull out defeated?
G.B.: Well, if no-one worships them (as when they pull out in defeat), they are less likely to carry out a military coup and take my power away from me.
I: Ah yes, I see. Very clever.
G.B. Of course I’m very clever. Did you doubt it?
I: Not for a moment, I assure you. But what about giving 50 billion to failing banks?
G.B. Ah, that’s the party interest. Many of our loyal supprters have their savings in those banks.
I: So it’s power again. And what about the national interest?
G.B. What’s this about the SNP? I believe in a fully United Kingdom .. oh sorry, I thought you said Nationalist.
I: No, no, “national interest”. What about it?
G.B.: Well, for example, we have done eveything to reduce waiting lists at hospitals, and will continue to do so.
I: By denying other people treatment.
G.B.: Well, you can’t please everyone.
I: But what about those who get into hospital? The phone exploitation scandal.
G.B. We’re most concerned about that, and will look into it urgently.
I: What about Britain being the libel capital of the world?
G.B. Please refer to my previous answer.
I: What about accomplishing our aims in the Middle East?
G.B.: Please refer to my previous answer.
I: But you will do something?
G.B.: After the election, certainly.
I: Just as you have done in the past.
G.B.: Of course we have. Like I said, we have done eveything to reduce waiting lists at hospitals, and will continue to do so.
I: Sir, that was very well handled, if I may say so
G.B.: Indeed you may. Here’s a dog biscuit for you – it has the White House Seal on it.
I: G.B., thank you very much indeed.
G.B.: Not at all.
“Devilishly so… ;-)”
In fact, looking at Apostate’s comment I almost can’t believe that even anyone who writes here regularly could use “Jooz” and “dual-citizenship” (with its nudge-nudge wink-wink connotations) in all seriousness. As well as the rest.
Almost… but then I look at some of the other comments on hand and it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t a parody.
The only problem is, it’s getting more and more difficult to tell the difference.
LOL.
technicolour in his scramble to a dictionary so not to have his potty ideas of anti-Semitism exposed, made a couple of typo’s in the the serch field and got a definition for “emetic”. and made a forced point to use it and show us all how clever he is. Hahahaha. No that’s not true, he’s always known what ’emetic’ means.
ISRAELHELLIES