What do you make of the intellectual capabilities and mental state of the man who said this unedited passage in a speech to the diplomatic corps?
“To carry our reflection further, we must remember that the problem of the environment is complex; one might compare it to a multifaceted prism,”
“Creatures differ from one another and can be protected, or endangered, in different ways, as we know from daily experience. One such attack comes from laws or proposals which, in the name of fighting discrimination, strike at the biological basis of the difference between the sexes,”
“I am thinking, for example, of certain countries in Europe or North and South America,”
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It sounds like the obscure ramblings of a senile old fool, but actually it was worse than that. The Pope meant it as a calculated attack on legal equality for gay people.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100111/tts-uk-pope-ca02f96.html
Once a Nazi…
Larry what I am about to tell you may shock you.
People are not fighting America because of suicidal beliefs, people fight America because America fights them.
The aim of people who die fighting America isn’t to be killed, it is to kill you.
They are just willing to lose their life if it means you will lose yours.
I know your governments wants you to believe people like Atta(if he did it as you believe) couldn’t careless about the 500 000 Iraqi Children who died before 911 in Iraq due to America’s blockade of Iraq.
You may agree with Madlin Albraight when she said that the 500 000 dead Iraqi babies was a price worth paying but that doesn’t mean the likes of Atta agreed with her. Instead they wanted to hurt you, any of you that it was possible for them to hurt. Even if it meant dying in the process.
But Larry, if those people who are willing to die trying to kill you ever gain weapons, with which they can kill you without dying they will use them and live even if it means the likes of you will have to think of a reason other then suicide to figure out why so many people want to kill you.
Notice that I didn’t write “you will have to realise that people kill you because you kill them”, because I believe you will never come to that realisation. because that realisation will mean that you may have to contemplate stopping your nations imperialism. I think that is impossible for you.
Richard Robinson, Brother, Friend, that post even though it was a reply to you it was directed at Larry.
I think we should keep an eye on gay-bashing stats.
I will try and push this back on to the topic too. Tech is right, what people say does result in people getting beaten up.
My wife was beaten up a couple of days ago after UKIP said what they did.
But the police refused to record it as a race crime, they recorded it as common assault meaning it isn’t going to be investigated. And if the person who did it is ever caught, nothing is really going to happen.
I am going to go against the grain here even if it does mean disagreeing with my friends. I think the Pope as the leader of a religion, or even as a knowledgeable person of a scripture has every right to make a judgement on what is lawful or unlawful in that religion.
So if the Pope was to says “Catholics please do not stick your bits in other men’s bums because God said not to do it in Leviticus as well as the verse talking about what happened to the people of Sodom”, or even if he said “the catholic church and the bible do not recognise the marriage between people of the same sex”, or even if he stated the churches position on whether Mexico and other countries, Catholic or otherwise should recognise marriage between people of the same sex is not only his right but his duty.
But I think the words he used leave people very confused, and makes himself look bad.
I think religious people should use religious arguments if that is what they mean instead of using some sort of warped logic to try and appeal to those who do not share their religion.
I think he is knowledgeable in his scripture, so he should restrict his arguments to his scripture instead of trying to justify his scriptures position with logic, non-sensible logic at that.
Great post arsalan, I agree with every word. I’m very sorry to hear about your wife, I hope she’s OK.
I think the pope’s duty is to speak up for Jesus, myself, since Jesus is the Son of God, and the last prophet of Christianity and all. And I don’t remember Jesus having any opinions about penises. So I don’t see why the pope should have, in public, either.
The god of Abraham is a myth.
wow, someone who knew Abraham!
Has anyone got a cure for that syphillitic spot on the arsehole of humanity who calls himself:”Larry from St Louis”?
The bloke is rotting up the recesses of his own backside.If he believes in the tales re-Atta and the virgins in heaven he’s living with the fairies!
Maybe the virgins got on the flight with incendaries in their knickers to help speed ol’Atta on his way to Allah!
On the other hand maybe Larry’s stuffing thermite down his underpants as we speak!
larry, tho I am ignoring you on principle, would point out that tungsten has the same style as steelback/apostate, and is not endorsed by anyone else on the board. so not worth worrying about.
I said “raisins” – not “virgins.” But you’ll have to take that up with Arsalan.
Obviously, as any poster with a grounding in English, or indeed American, literature will have realised, Arsalan can not, and could never be, ‘tungsten’.
The thing is, people’s writing is quite individual. Parody is easy, but doing someone else so well that you can’t tell the difference, isn’t. Because you have to have their *heart* I think. Writing is a very moral experience, in a way. The truth will out.
Larry, if Atta did do it, he did it because he met you.
Larry no one here has ever met you, but I’m sure after reading a few of your posts the majority of people here have considered going Kamikaze on an American building.
“I think he is knowledgeable in his scripture, so he should restrict his arguments to his scripture instead of trying to justify his scriptures position with logic, non-sensible logic at that.”
Yes. That would make sense and be a coherent position. But, the Old Testament contains all sorts of injunctions; trying to follow them all would, ah, how can I put this ? allow him to demonstrate that he has the courage of his convictions.
I don’t think he eats kosher, does he ? just for one little example. The death penalty for witches might not be universally popular these days, either.
There’s a list of daft examples that gets widely quoted in this context, but I don’t have a copy to hand.
It’s hard to see how he isn’t cherry-picking his favourite bits, is my point. Not that he or his sect have a monopoly on that.
“Richard Robinson, Brother, Friend”
You too, mate 🙂
I’m not very experienced with blog-commenting (but I’ve been reading here for years), I’m having trouble keeping track of the various threads.
anyone here live in London? just wondering.
The Gurdian CIF section meet up, but it is so naff I take it back.
I think I have a unique position on this.
The majority here will argue that the Pope should repudiate the old testament ban on homosexuality because he doesn’t follow the ban on pork.
But I would advice the opposite. I would say he should abide by the ban on pork because he believes in the ban on homosexuality.
If Christians believe the old testament is genuine and it hasn’t been abrogated by the New. They should follow all of it.
I am someone who breaks the rules of left right discussions. Rights are stingy on welfare and tough on morality, while lefts are generous on welfare and lax on morality.
I am pro welfare as well as being pro old fashioned morality.
“I’m having trouble keeping track of the various threads”.
Me too. So many have sprung up all of a sudden I’ve lost track of what I’ve said where and in response to whom.
Tech I live here.
That’s OK, MJ, reviews reveal that you have most often been – funny! And to the point. And open-minded. Cheers.
Hey Arsalan, me too.
Richard Robinson:
A tautology means that the premiss and the conclusion are essentially identical. It is a purely theoretical affair. The double consequences of materialist thinking here, however are events from the real world, that need not have happened.
As for the ‘closed system’, I don’t believe Benedict XVI was trying to convince materialists in his address; it was made to the Vatican’s diplomats.
“A tautology means that the premiss and the conclusion are essentially identical. It is a purely theoretical affair.”
Yes.
“The double consequences of materialist thinking here, however are events from the real world, that need not have happened.”
Materialist thinking has environmental consequences ? Yes, I’d agree.
But, and legislation he doesn’t like ? That’s back to beliefs.
“As for the ‘closed system’, I don’t believe Benedict XVI was trying to convince materialists in his address; it was made to the Vatican’s diplomats.”
Again, agree.
“Larry what I am about to tell you may shock you.
People are not fighting America because of suicidal beliefs, people fight America because America fights them.
The aim of people who die fighting America isn’t to be killed, it is to kill you.
They are just willing to lose their life if it means you will lose yours.”
Oh! I think no one is particularly shocked by that.
Some people are just crazy and will try to kill for crazy reasons.
You’ll remember that Osama bin Laden et. al’s declaration of war was published in al-Quds al-Arabi in which he said it was the duty of every Muslim to kill Americans and Jews where ever they may find them. It didn’t matter if they were soldiers or civilians, they should just be killed.
Now, just supposing we take your view (that many others on the board pretend doesn’t exist) that “if those people who are willing to die trying to kill you ever gain weapons, with which they can kill you without dying they will use them and live even if it means the likes of you will have to think of a reason other then suicide to figure out why so many people want to kill you.
Notice that I didn’t write “you will have to realise that people kill you because you kill them”, because I believe you will never come to that realisation. because that realisation will mean that you may have to contemplate stopping your nations imperialism. I think that is impossible for you” then really what you are saying is that there can never be an accomodation between two sets of beliefs.
Osama bin Laden believes that those Muslims who don’t kill Americans and Jews where ever and whenever they can are not real Muslims. “Fake Muslims” is a term I have heard you use plenty of times now. Where do you stand on this issue? What is a fake Muslim to you?
I believe that I have a lot of Muslim friends here in Japan, but I wonder if you would deny them their beliefs? If so then who is the Islamaphobe? Is it you who denies my friends their right to call themselves Muslim or is it my friends who don’t recognize the idea of splitting the world into these incompatible groups and considering non-Muslims to be evil?
Also, what do you think of the radical Islamists who shoot up Sri Lankan cricket players? Or those that kill Japanese tourists in Luxor or Japanese businessmen on flights from Manila? Or holidaymakers in Bali?
What justifies those atrocities?
I hate everyone. On my blog Spatula City I trash everyone, because I know I am better than all of you.
I hate all of you people, I dare you to write anything on my blog, that I don’t like.
I block IP addresses so I can always be right in my small little world.
I am an ass, but that is who I am.
People hate me because I hate them.
Andy Blum
Spatula City
blog.andyblume.com/
@Richard.Thanks, now everyone, when ever you read a post from ‘Larry of St Louis’ what mental image of this idiot springs to mind ?
Angry
So do you believe the likes of the Bin Ladin have Choosen America as the enemy because they Hate America’s Freedom, or because they hate America’s Imperialism?
If you believe Muslims hate America because of its freedom, do you think we are really happy with America for bombing loads of Muslim Countries?
Do you think we are really happy with America for giving Israel and others loads of Bombs to kill us with?
But in spite of all Muslims America has killed to make us happy, we still hate you because of your freedom?
Hi Guys,
Sorry for the bullshit comment above, I’ve got some retarded cunt stalking me across the internet.
How this ended up on your blog, one I’ve never heard of before today, is totally beyond me.
Cheers
(real) Andy.
angri,larry,technicolor et al appear to be up to their necks in their own excrement!
They share a level of insight about on a par with a fortnight old road-kill.
In fact you’d probably get more insight from the latter.
Larry actually addressed a message board contribution to himself a couple of days ago and technicolour spells his name more than one different way.
These guys are so inept they should be in a Carry On film.
Any suggestions for a title?
Carry On Sayanin wannabes?
Maybe as they’re so bad at covering for their Israeli/Mishpucka sponsors they could feature in a newspaper headline along the lines of Shabaz Goy Expose Themselves!
Maybe angribirdbrain,technicoler delux and Larry The Retard are the Jewish equivalent of failed suicide bombers-
Underpants Bombers Soiled!
God love ’em though.This site sure as Hell wouldn’t be the same without them.
Lowering the tone never did any harm.And these guys have cetainly done that.
Still,it does us all good to laugh now and again-at their expense!