The 9/11 Post 11807


Having complained of people posting off topic, it seems a reasonable solution to give an opportunity for people to discuss the topics I am banning from other threads – of which 9/11 seems the most popular.

I do not believe that the US government, or any of its agencies, were responsible for 9/11. It would just need too many people to be involved. Someone would have objected. There are some strange and dangerous people in America, but not in sufficient concentration for this one. They couldn’t even keep Watergate quiet, and that was a small group. Any group I can think of – even Blackwater – would contain operatives with scruples about blowing up New York. They may be sadly ready to kill people in poor countries, but Americans en masse? Somebody would say it wasn’t a good idea.

I asked a friend in the construction industry what it would take to demolish the twin towers. He replied nine months, 80 men, and 12 miles of cabling. The notion that a small team at night could plant sufficient explosives embedded at key points, is laughable.

The forces of the aircraft impacts must have been amazingly high. I have no difficulty imagining they would bring down the building. As for WTC 7, again the kinetic energy of the collapse of the twin towers must be immense.

I admit to a private speculation about WTC7. Unfortunately in construction it is extremely common for contractors not to fix or install properly all the expensive girders, ties and rebar that are supposed to be enclosed in the concrete. Supervising contractors and municipal inspectors can be corrupt. I recall vividly that in London some years ago a tragedy occurred when a simple gas oven explosion brought down the whole side of a tower block.

The inquiry found that the building contractor had simply omitted the ties that bound the girders at the corners, all encased in concrete. If a gas oven had not blown up, nobody would have found out. Buildings I strongly suspect are very often not as strong as they are supposed to be, with contractors skimping on apparently redundant protection. The sort of sordid thing you might not want too deeply investigated in the event of a national tragedy.

Precisely what happened at the Pentagon I am less sure. There is not the conclusive film and photographic evidence that there is for New York. I am particularly puzzled by the much more skilled feat of flying that would be required to hit a building virtually at ground level, in an urban area, after a lamppost clipping route – very hard to see how a non-professional pilot did that. But I can think of a number of possible scenarios where the official explanation is not quite the whole truth on the Pentagon, but which do not necessitate a belief that the US government or Dick Cheney was behind the attack.

In my view the real scandal of 9/11 was that it was blowback – the product of a malignant terrorist agency whose origins lay in CIA funding and provision. Also blowback in a more general sense that it was spawned in the nasty theocratic dictatorship of Saudi Arabia which is so close to the US and to the Bush dynasty in particular. As with almost all terrorist activity, I do not rule out any point on the whole spectrum of surveillance, penetration and agent provocateur activity by any number of possible actors.

But was 9/11 false flag and controlled demolition? No, I think not.

(Now I have given full opportunity to discuss 9/11 here, any further references on other threads will be instantly deleted).


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  • MJ

    “Saying “allah” in a Christian church offends Islamists…” (etc)

    And discussing 911 in terms anything other than uncritical acceptance of the official account offends Zionists no end. I find this an interesting phenomenon.

    While I have found no conclusive proof of Israeli involvement in 911, there is nonetheless rather strong evidence of Israeli foreknowledge, ie the Mossad chaps caught filming the impacts and their aftermath in NY. Make of this what you will; personally I just wish the FBI would release the footage they took of the first plane.

    Silverstein of course did very well out of 911, particularly since he luckily renegotiated the terms of the insurance policy – to include damage or loss caused by terrorism – only a few months before the attack. Also he finally got his wish of demolishing the twin towers, permission for which had only recently been refused by the NY Port Authority.

    Another interesting Israeli connection is the alleged presence on AA11 of Daniel Lewin, a member of Israel’s Sayeret Maktal anti-terrorism unit. (Lewin also set up the IT software company Akamai, which provides download management services to Microsoft among others, using software that can read the contents of your hard-drive if you’re configured to allow automatic updates from Microsoft, but that’s another story).

    The Israeli connection to 911 is therefore a rather interesting one and deserves closer examination, however much discomfort and offence that may cause Zionists and their apologists.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    Mark,

    Kurt Sonnenfeld?

    Kurt Sonnenfeld?

    You really are a stupid person, aren’t you?

    You’ll believe anything, won’t you?

    Even if I grant that he was a FEMA photographer (which I’m not ready to grant), why the hell would that qualify him to know anything about U.S. clandestine operations? Why would they tell a loser like that anything? He sounds vastly similar to that guy who made up the “Tim Osman” lie. He’s a deranged lunatic who thinks he’s the center of the world. Idiots like you take him at his word.

    Mark Golding, were you the moron who brought up the thoroughly debunked Tim Osman claim? Have you written to that meth cooker in prison to find anything else out?

    Sonnenfeld is a lot like the criminal who made up the Tim Osman lie, if only because it appears that HE MURDERED HIS WIFE!

  • Larry from St. Louis

    Clark, now I’ve heard it all. In addition to you stupidly thinking that bin Laden was so concerned with the liberation of Palestine, you also seem to think that the West should feel guilty about “using the Afghanis against the USSR.”

    Just like we used the Polish and Dutch against the Germans.

    My God, you’re stupid.

  • crab

    screwloosechange expose! hicarrumba stupipMoronCurseBinhead Collapse!

    sososoba -ease up on the wretched bigotry wee man!

  • angrysoba

    “Angrysoba, yes, I read the Hamas charter. And?”

    What do you mean, “And?”

    You’re the one who has been saying that if only we can find ways of accommodating Islamists and if only there were ways of trying to be less forceful in the world and ways of being more like quiet little mice then there would be no reason to worry about Islamist terror. Oh, and you say that terrorist attacks could be avoided if we all learnt to do what Osama bin Laden wants.

    Here is Hamas on the Israel/Palestine problem:

    (From Article 7)

    “The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders. It goes back to 1939, to the emergence of the martyr Izz al-Din al Kissam and his brethren the fighters, members of Muslim Brotherhood. It goes on to reach out and become one with another chain that includes the struggle of the Palestinians and Muslim Brotherhood in the 1948 war and the Jihad operations of the Muslim Brotherhood in 1968 and after.

    Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

    “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).”

    And from Article 13:

    “Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. “Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know.”

    Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the (Palestinian) question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Muslim problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Muslims as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?

    “But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah.” (The Cow – verse 120).

    There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

    So, it appears that only the destruction of Israel is acceptable to Hamas. If this is the case then the choice is the destruction of Israel or the maintainance of Israel.

    I favour Israel’s maintainance. According to Crab this seems to make me a bigot.

    Hawley hasn’t read the charter so Hamas’ own words are of no interest to him/her, apparently. But Hawley does have a handy get-out-of-jail clause. If the words are really bad then it is Israel’s fault!

    Great!

    He seems to have a problem with Israel for letting Sheikh Yassin out of jail. You see if Israel arrest a member of the PLO then they’re helping Hamas. If they arrest a member of Hamas who accept nothing less than Israel’s destruction then they’re arresting “political prisoners” (not terrorists). You can’t win with anti-Zionists because they will only ever accept one solution.

  • Clark

    Larry,

    Angrysoba,

    you’ve misrepresented what I wrote again. I’m not surprised, as misrepresentation has been a technique that you have both used repeatedly.

    It is infuriating. I have recognised its source (you), and I am calming myself. You repeatedly accuse anyone who you disagree with of stupidity. You seem to have an agenda, which includes making your opponents angry. Well, I claim jurisdiction of myself, and I refuse to be angered.

    Larry,

    you repeatedly say that I stated my age in order to be condecending. If you look back to the original incident, you will see that I was asking your age; I wanted to get a better idea who I was conversing with. It seemed rude to ask you something that I hadn’t revealed myself.

    Larry,

    Angrysoba,

    I am bored with arguing with both of you. I find it unpleasant rather than stimulating. So I don’t feel like doing it any more.

    There. You won, you beat me. OK?

    So let’s “cut to the chase”. Yes, Angrysoba, Hamas are militants, amongst other things. They are also elected, so they must have some popular support. So what do you suggest? Why don’t you each write a few paragraphs, setting out how you would like foreign policy in the Middle East to proceed from here onwards.

  • Apostate

    Larry out buying a house?

    That’s probably how Larry Silverstein, the guy you seem not to want to talk about,described it when he bought a new link in his chain of brothels.

    In case you nebbishes hadn’t noticed Silverstein and the ADL Mishpucka nexus,you and angri’s paymasters,is the tapeworm that’s rotting America’s insides out.They are also the leading suspects in the 911 atrocity.That small case of mass murder you’re trying vainly to stop us from getting to the bottom of.

    Their machinations have infected the body politic of the U.S.administration,Defense Department,and law.Central to these subversions of US Constitution and law is the ADL.They are airhead Larry’s employers with several rather large expensive offices in St Louis-no wonder this nebbish who would,under normal circumstances be crashed in the gutter,is out buying houses!

    The $multi-trillion financed outfit with offices in every big US city is a secret illegal cult organization set up within the US government with thousands of paid and volunteer(sayanim)agents planted throughout government agencies and in Congress.They are fed by a maniacal dedication to subvert American government and law.By and large in just over a century they have managed to achieve this.

    Find out re-Silverstein’s background in the sex industry which is indispensable to their political control.Their most notorious mishpucka madam was of course Heidi Fleiss but there are many others you never get to hear about.Such madams and their staff got to dispose of Judge Spitzer just as soon as he remembered he was an American BEFORE he was a Jew.

    Spitzer was opening up an investigation on the Silverstein 911 insurance scam and Larry’s career in the sex industry and as ADL always ensures had skeletons in his cupboard that facilitated his swift removal.ADL Mishpucka doubtless has the same stuff on Obama and will use it when they think the time is right.

    Here’s who paid for airhead Larry’s new house:

    http://www.rense.com/general/81/bushislv.htm

    Most U.S.citizens are losing their houses and Larry just bought up a string of brothels.

    It ain’t right!

  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    Sonnenfeld has reportedly claimed that his videotapes prove top U.S. government officials had prior knowledge of the 2001 terrorist attacks.

    In an interview last summer with an online news group called voltairenet.org, Sonnenfeld said the government took action to protect expensive

    equipment in the World Trade Center complex housing CIA offices that collapsed several hours after the attack.

    “The attacks on the World Trade Center gave them the justification they had been seeking” to attack Iraq, Sonnenfeld wrote.

    While promoting his book, he has made appearances with Adolfo Perez Esquivel, the 1980 Nobel Peace

    Sonnenfeld is shown with Nobel Peace Prize winner Adolfo P?rez Esquivel in recent years.

    Prize winner, whom he met while filming a documentary for French journalists.

    Esquivel and associates wrote an amicus brief to

    Argentina’s supreme court opposing Sonnenfeld’s extradition. Sonnenfeld and his new wife, Paula, are directors of a home Esquivel founded for children with HIV and AIDS.

    “He stands for us any time we ask him to,” Sonnenfeld said in his e-mail.

    Sonnenfeld claims he has the backing of a dozen national and international human rights groups and even some people close

    to Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.

    Troubled marriage

    Sonnenfeld is adamant that Nancy killed herself.

    In his e-mail, Sonnenfeld said that his wife had repeatedly attempted suicide during their nearly 10 years of marriage and

    that close friends and family members had also committed suicide.

    Their marital troubles escalated to Nancy’s decision to separate from Kurt during a vacation to Thailand, where, according to several sources,

    she caught him using heroin and with other women. One friend said he was with two prostitutes.

    The two returned to the U.S. separately, and Nancy filed for separation.

    Sonnenfeld wrote in an e-mail that he was not “addicted” to heroin when asked whether he used heroin on the

    Thailand trip. He said he “absolutely” did not hire a prostitute, an allegation he called a character assassination.

    At 1:40 a.m. on New Year’s Day 2002, Sonnenfeld called a police dispatcher and reported that his wife had shot herself at their home

    at 1410 Clayton St.

    Police smashed a window to get inside his house when Sonnenfeld couldn’t find a key to the door, he said. His right eye was turning black and his chin had a cut.

    Police at scene of death

    Police found Nancy Sonnenfeld sitting in a chaise lounge in the corner of an upstairs bedroom with a bullet entry wound behind her right ear.

    The bullet exited upward and to the back of her head at the crown, Sonnenfeld said in his e-mail.

    Because of her positioning, it was impossible for anyone else to have shot her, he wrote.

    Police found evidence ?” blood spatter on the wall and a second pool of blood on the floor ?” that indicated

    Nancy had been moved from the edge to the center of the lounge after she was shot, the affidavit says.

    Although Sonnenfeld later told police he was in the other room checking e-mails when he heard a gunshot, officers

    reported seeing high-velocity blood spatter on his face, indicating his proximity to the shot.

    A crime-scene analyst also found gunpowder residue on his pants and jacket. And tests would show his computer had not been used that night.

    Nancy’s fingerprint was found on the magazine of the .45-caliber gun, and there was gunpowder residue on her hand, indicating

    she was close to the gun when it fired.

    The path of the bullet suggested an implausible if not impossible angle for someone to shoot herself, police noted.

    It was one of the first indications Nancy’s death was a homicide, the affidavit says.

    But tests showed Sonnenfeld had no gunpowder residue on his hands, and his fingerprints were not on the gun,

    found about 6 feet in front of Nancy on the floor.

    Sonnenfeld was arrested and interviewed at the police station. He was charged with first-degree murder.

    In June 2002, prosecutors dropped the case because of insufficient evidence but maintained the right to refile.

    Adding to the evidence

    Subsequently, two former inmates who had been in jail with Sonnenfeld came forward ?” one in July 2002, the other in January 2003 ?” and claimed that

    Sonnenfeld told them he killed his wife.

    Both offered details about the case that hadn’t been reported, said Lynn Kimbrough, spokeswoman for the Denver district attorney’s office.

    Inmate Robert Dreyer said Sonnenfeld told him the reason police didn’t find gunpowder residue on his hands was that he wore gloves and wrapped his arms in cellophane.

    Sonnenfeld admitted killing Nancy, while telling Dreyer police were too “stupid” to figure out the “puzzle,” Dreyer said

    Sonnenfeld allegedly told him that he should have “put the gun lower in Nancy’s hand” to dispel police suspicions.

    Dreyer said that what angered his wife most was his sexual liaison with a woman in Thailand. That detail had not yet been reported.

    Sonnenfeld said he didn’t know either of the inmates, who he said lied to get leniency.

    “These ‘witnesses’ too, were planted by U.S. authorities as an attempt to give credence to their desperate attempt to return

    me to American soil,” he wrote in his e-mail.

    He said charges were dropped after his defense team found a suicide letter police had ignored.

    It said: “What indeed is finally beautiful except death and love ?” Kurt please get help,” and the word “love” was crossed out.

    Eleanor Campbell said her daughter copied the phrase from a book written by Walt Whitman and was not suicidal.

    She had a high-paying management job and had previously weathered a divorce.

    New life in new country

    Sonnenfeld went to Argentina in early 2003 for a two-week stay.

    He met and married his wife Paula, an attorney who speaks English, Italian and Portuguese besides her native Spanish,

    and the couple have twin 3-year-old daughters.

    A warrant for Sonnenfeld’s arrest under a new murder charge was filed in 2004, and Sonnenfeld was arrested

    in Buenos Aires on Aug. 24, 2004, by Interpol agents.

    His campaign to prove that he was the victim of a U.S. plot to silence his 9/11 conspiracy theories began soon after.

    Argentine authorities released Sonnenfeld from an infamous Buenos Aires prison after an Argentine federal judge rejected

    an extradition request from the U.S. Although Denver has repeatedly assured Argentina that it will not seek the death penalty,

    all extradition appeals and requests have been rejected.

    And Denver authorities dispute Sonnenfeld’s suggestion that local prosecutors are colluding with U.S. agents to cover up what he knows

    about 9/11 or get his tapes.

    “That’s ridiculous,” Kimbrough said. “His charges stem strictly from allegations that he killed his wife.”

    A serious case and describes the type of vilification we not in another thread.

    Does this case mean some people might go to extraordinary lengths to prevent the real truth (truff) of 9/11?

    Perhaps even here on this board where angrysoba and Larry have contributed more than third (1/3rd) of the posts

    we witness this obsession to deny the families of the deceased a proper inquiry (except of course the bereaved who were paid $millions).

    Courtesy Denver Post.

    I might ask Craig to check the logs for their IP’s and MAC addresses to confirm their crudentials. But Craig is far too busy to even think about these doods.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    So … Kurt Sonnenfeld murdered his wife and he gets away with it because he can spin a tale about 911 truthiness.

    Where’s his evidence to his boring claims? And what is he claiming?

    He says: “I have video that shows how curiously small the rubble pile was, and how the buildings to either side were untouched by Building Seven when it collapsed.”

    MORONS. DOLTS. IDIOTS. There’s plenty of evidence that shows massive damage at WTC 7. A fucking building fell on it. Like a true truther, he might have edited some footage to show less damage. Truthers have even added explosive sound effects to support their truthiness. We don’t know, because he hasn’t released any videotape.

    Another claim: “The Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission

    and the Office of Emergency Management?s ?Crisis Center? occupied huge amounts of space there, spanning several floors of the building. Other federal agencies had offices there as well.

    After September 11, it was discovered that concealed within Building Seven was the largest clandestine domestic station of the Central Intelligence

    Agency outside of Washington DC,”

    1. Complete and utter bullshit.

    2. Why would the DoD and the CIA and other federal agencies decide to blow themselves up?

    If you think the state authorities in Colorado are cooperating with the Men in Black and are trying to frame this guy, you really are a moron.

    Why don’t they just shoot him? He’s just ONE FUCKING LOON. According to you, the Men in Black WIRED THE WORLD TRADE CENTER! Why wouldn’t they just put a bullet in his head and “disappear’ his damning videotape of WTC7?

  • Richard Robinson

    “Crudentials – claims of authority that consist of shouting ugly things at those who question them”.

    Smashing. Thanks, Mark 🙂

  • juniper

    Shit,Larry

    You gettin’ ‘sterical,boy!Massa Goldin’ on to sometin’ dat fo’ sho’.

    E’body down here St Louis mighty fed up wid yer now dey hear bout yo string a cat-houses!

    How could you sink so low,boy? Running a house a sin wear all our good Christan gals get ‘ploited fo’money.T’aint rite an’you know t’aint.

    Your Missy bout endda her tedder wid ya,now.She say yo bin suck in by dem Mishpucka anna ADL an’youz just doin’ dare biddin’all da dam time now widout no fort for her an’all da famly.She say youz gotta stop all dis tang now,Larry.

    Yoon,angri,oilman,tecni,anna dat guy wid crabs dunna Godorful nuff job for Massa Sunstein tryna put Massa Craig outta bizness-an now youz gon’makka worser job wid dis cat-house a Massa Sunstein.

    Iz jussa tryna get some senz innaya Larry cos people down here jussa bout had nuff yawl messin’ wid da good name St Louis an dey don’lika yo’ nasy way makin’a livin’ nyder.

    P.S.Missy say thissa string cat-houses jussa da last straw wot brake da camel’s back,boy!

    P.P.S.Wot your Mishpucka ADL frenz gon’do ’bout dis Sonnefeld guy.Dissa sine,Larry yo’911 fishal story all ’bout fallin’ part at de seam!

    Fanks to yo’an angri,tecni,oilman,anna dat guy wid crabs ebody noze 911 issa inside job!

  • Vronsky

    ..but honestly, how can you guys be such shites when this is around?

    Ihr stuerzt nieder, Millionen?

  • Larry from St. Louis

    “Listen to music now when I’m splitting my sides re-Larry’s latest cat-house exploits?”

    The new house is awesome, actually! Not too big, because I don’t like to be wasteful. Damn I love living in America!

  • dreoilin

    I’d spit on a Green Card, Larry dear. I have ten times your quality of life.

    “Damn I love living in America!”

    Interesting phraseology. Not “Damn I love being an American”. So where did you live previously, Larry? Where were you born?

  • Apostate

    Airhead Larry’s outraged that another 911 whistleblower’s going to spill the beans!

    Methinks the airhead protests too much.

    The stuff re-Sonnenfeld using heroin and prostitutes in Thailand is classic ADL Mishpucka smear tactics.As is the collusion of Denver prosecutors with US agents.

    Typically Larry’s ADL training and adherence to mishna law leads him to insist Sonnenfeld was guilty of killing his wife.Funny then that the prosecution in the original case was so certain of his innocence that it was they who requested the dismissal of the charges.

    What troubles Larry is the sense that those dams are bursting.Sonnenfeld makes it clear in the voltaire interview that FEMA had foreknowledge of the 911 attacks.FEMA and several other agencies were deployed to their Pier 92 command centre on 10th September.

    Clairvoyant or what,Larry?

    The Sonnenfeld footage (included in the voltaire interview) includes shots of the tyres from the landing gear.Sonnenfeld also noticed parts of seats and fuselage-all of which gives the lie utterly to the official claims that the planes were vaporized.He also remarks on the absurdly small size of the turbine engine he saw that positively did not come from any Boeing.

    As to the underground levels of WTC7 Sonnenfeld speaks these as home to several federal agencies including Secret Service,DOD,FBI,IRS,SEC and a CIA listening post wired to the UN.

    The NY location for the UN baffles the uninitiated but you’re getting an idea now why it’s here rather than somewhere more neutral!

    Again the NY location is key to the authorship of the atrocity.

    The disinfo team is noticeably quiet again tonight.Classic disinfo tactic- they pray for a while that no-one picks up on the story in the hope it’ll go away.

    I bet angri is bollocking airhead Larry right now about drawing attention to the Sonnenfeld story by denying it so vociferously.Larry’s that daft he never thought to read the voltaire piece before entering the fray.

    Mind you reading is a problem for that young man!

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

  • Larry from St. Louis

    “As to the underground levels of WTC7 Sonnenfeld speaks these as home to several federal agencies including Secret Service,DOD,FBI,IRS,SEC and a CIA listening post wired to the UN.”

    Exactly. And it’s these sorts of crazy claims that convince any normal person that Sonnenfeld is an insane man. He goes way too far with his lies. If he said that he saw bin Laden in a black helicopter, you’d probably believe that too.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    “Interesting phraseology. Not “Damn I love being an American”. So where did you live previously, Larry? Where were you born?”

    Nope, try again, you dumbass conspiracy loon.

    Do you idiots get ANYTHING right?

  • Larry from St. Louis

    “They are airhead Larry’s employers with several rather large expensive offices in St Louis-no wonder this nebbish who would,under normal circumstances be crashed in the gutter,is out buying houses!”

    Where are the ADL’s nice offices in St. Louis?

  • dreoilin

    “So where did you live previously, Larry? Where were you born?” (me)

    “Nope, try again, you dumbass conspiracy loon.” (Larry)

    Drunk. Obviously.

  • angrysoba

    Clark,

    I don’t know what to say. You repeatedly asked me what I thought of Israel and accused me and Larry of being – gasp! – “Zionists” while I consistently asked you not to divert the topic. Instead you made lots of tenuous links between Israel and 9/11 and continued demanding that I say what I think of Israel. Israel simply doesn’t occupy a lot of my thoughts.

    But when I finally tell you what I think. You storm off in a huff. It’s not my fault that Hamas wrote what they did in their charter but given that they did and given that they demand no solution to the Israel-Palestine problem than the demolition of Israel then there can really not be much of a compromise.

  • Larry from St. Louis

    dreoilin, think through it slowly; I wrote “Damn I love living in America!” and you concluded something that was a bit silly and unnecessary to conclude.

  • Clark

    Angrysoba,

    I’m sorry that I’ve stormed off in a huff. You are right, there can be no compromise. What do you hope happens next?

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