The threat of Islamic fundamentalism rising up in and pouring out from Central Asia, is a popular theme of those who design Western security – or hydrocarbon – strategies. It is in order to exagerrate the threat from Central Asia that the US and UK use the Karimov regime to torture “Confessions” out of Central Asian “Al-Qaida” members.
Al-Jazeera has this week been running a feature documentary by Michael Andersen, a Danish journalist who really does know Central Asia, It should be required viewing for anyone with an interest in the “War on Terror”. You can still catch it on Al-Jazeera today and tomorrow, or throught this link.
BTW, about the swinflu vaccine (while I don’t want to throw this whole thread “off”):
I wasn’t going to have anything to do with it, although I’m in an “at risk” group because of my heart condition. I’m very suspicious about the whole ‘pandemic’ and the likes of Baxter and others making a fortune — not forgetting Donald Rumsfeld and Tamiflu-that-doesn’t-work. But my sis-in-law told me she’s been flattened by swineflu for 5 days (hadn’t the strength to get out of bed to the loo) and that news more or less scared me into having the vaccine. I can’t afford to get a serious respiratory infection.
“Whether war is ‘christian’ or not rather depends on which bit of the bible you’re looking at”
Oh sure. But I’m thinking both of “thou shalt not kill” and the admonition to turn the other cheek. But turning the other cheek is hardly very practical — which I assume is why the Vatican produced their “just war” definition. (Didn’t they? I’m a long-lapsed Catholic!)
“she who must be obeyed is coming back tonight”
Make an omelette, Arsalan. They’re much easier than anyone thinks. My sons make them all the time. Add any filling you want.
My son used to throw any leftovers from the fridge into omelettes (including cooked potato) and call it a ‘Spanish omelette’. I never found out if there was any basis to the name!
my son demands omelette in the middle of the night, and we have to make him one.
He never cooks for himself.
I think that is because he is 4.
That reminds me, I need to buy some more eggs, good bye.
@dreoilin
Swine flu: best site for info is http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/
Dig back into older posts for an interesting examination of the post-911 anthrax attacks.
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Looking at the first comment on this thread, I too was agreeably surprised by the documentary on Lawrence – rather faithful to Lawrence, and therefore surprisingly risqu? for the BEEB, ordinarily the most obedient of government servants.
From the ‘Introductory Chapter’ to ‘Seven Pillars of Wisdom’:
“When we won, it was charged against me that the British petrol royalties in Mesopotamia were become dubious, and French Colonial policy ruined in the Levant.
I am afraid that I hope so. We pay for these things too much in honour and in innocent lives. I went up the Tigris with one hundred Devon Territorials, young, clean, delightful fellows, full of the power of happiness and of making women and children glad. By them one saw vividly how great it was to be their kin, and English. And we were casting them by thousands into the fire to the worst of deaths, not to win the war but that the corn and rice and oil of Mesopotamia might be ours.”
I’ve always loved that ‘I’m afraid that I hope so’.
“I never found out if there was any basis to the name!”
There is – tortilla de patates, available on top of the bar top in any rural Spanish bar, fine hot or cold. I practically lived on the stuff for about two months.
http://secondhelping.com.au/feastonthis/?page_id=128
“”if he really thinks that the education system of his country will provide any passing 11-year-old with all the information they need to know about making fission explosions”
“that’s not remotely what i wrote. also, i never relied on my education system to provide me with all the information that I came across”.
True, you did say. You also did “book research”, and talked with “a working physicist”.
So you’re still trying to keep the central windup going, that you’re entitled to lay down the law based on knowing ‘more’ about the subject (than who, you didn’t say. Wisely) because of a “research project” you undertook aged 11 ? Did it never occur to you that there might be things They weren’t telling you ? How sweet.
I mean, you do explicitly mention a ‘fission device’ – that’s not wrapping lumps of DU round something that goes bang, that’s a fission device. Chain reactions, e = m by c squared, Hiroshima, all that.
George,
Thanks so much for the link to the Mail’s extraordinary and worrying decision from Hutton. I understand Norman, who I spoke to by phone recently, finds this ‘astonishing’ and more. I will talk to Norman again about raising the awareness of this dreadful decision, considering many eminent surgeons have expressed disbelief at the post-mortem conclusions.
“So you’re still trying to keep the central windup going, that you’re entitled to lay down the law based on knowing ‘more’ about the subject (than who, you didn’t say. Wisely) because of a “research project” you undertook aged 11 ? Did it never occur to you that there might be things They weren’t telling you ? How sweet.”
Fine. You’re misinterpreting what I wrote in the first place, but fine, I suppose I was laying down the law.
Did I think that there were things they weren’t telling me? Nope. We have libraries. Don’t you?
You seem to be from the UK – the UK can’t be as bad to you folks depict it. I know it must be a bit difficult to be schooled in the world of a state-financed Abrahamic god, but please don’t tell me that they’ve thrown science & technology out the window. It really can’t be that bad.
@George Dutton: Bloody hell thanks for that link.
http://tinyurl.com/yaes2ta
Mary,
Yes Darling I have signed.
Can anyone explain why Lord Hutton would have secretly banned reporting of Dr Kell’s post mortem details and other evidence for 70 years?
Why would it be neccessary to take such unusual action over a simple suicide?
Maybe eddie can explain what his new labour gangster mates have to hide?
Is there no way of wresting control of our country back from these evil people?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245599/David-Kelly-post-mortem-kept-secret-70-years-doctors-accuse-Lord-Hutton-concealing-vital-information.html
Larry you are a twit, and the more you justify your position the more you reveal your ignorance.
Many nations have tried for many years to become nuclear powers. But instead of investing countless billions in that research, instead of attempting underground nuclear explosions, all they needed to do was walk in to an American library or try and got hold of Larry’s 5th grade homework.
Larry it is true that you can find the basic outlines of nuclear fission in a 5th grade science text book, but didn’t it cross your mind that the practice is more complex than that?
And the reason why they didn’t write more than just the basic outline is because the mathematical calculations needed are too complex for the minds of an 11 year old?
Larry I am someone who believes American are probably the most stupid and ignorant people on the face of the Earth. But even I am finding it hard to believe that someone even someone in America can be as stupid and as ignorant as you.
I am starting to think some of the post signed as you are by others who are trying to make fun of you, or maybe all the posts signed as Larry are by someone trying to make fun of how stupid and ignorant Americans are.
Larry,I really can’t believe your ignorance.
Larry this is an honest question.
Amongst your neighbors, friends and relatives, are you one of the clever ones, Stupid ones or are you about average?
Larry was this the Scientist you spoke to?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
Mary,
Just as a side, is the ‘yes’ ‘remember me’ radio button active, if it is, try Google Chrome browser which is a simple download and install – much better than Internet explorer. Chrome has nice little thumbnails as ‘history’ -a visual reminder of your most visited sites.
“Many nations have tried for many years to become nuclear powers. But instead of investing countless billions in that research, instead of attempting underground nuclear explosions, all they needed to do was walk in to an American library or try and got hold of Larry’s 5th grade homework.”
OK, that’s actually quite funny – I’ll give you that.
But that’s not what I was claiming. I mentioned the library issue because someone above was suggesting that such information was kept away from us.
I think you’re missing the point that you need an enriched product for a fission bomb. That’s always been the case, and I prefaced everything I said with that point.
As to enrichment, it will certainly get easier as the years progress.
“Larry it is true that you can find the basic outlines of nuclear fission in a 5th grade science text book, ”
Again, that’s not remotely what I wrote. Of course such information is not in a 5th grade science textbook. I was talking about a science fair project, wherein part of the idea is to go beyond what’s in the textbook.
“You seem to be from the UK – the UK can’t be as bad to you folks depict it. I know it must be a bit difficult to be schooled in the world of a state-financed Abrahamic god, but please don’t tell me that they’ve thrown science & technology out the window. It really can’t be that bad.”
Fantastic, a nice shiny red herring. And very pretty it is, too.
My primary school “research project” was a really badly drawn three-stage rockets with Yuri Gagarin in the capsule. I read books for that, too.
“Larry I am someone who believes American are probably the most stupid and ignorant people on the face of the Earth.”
It would surprise me if there were a commenter at this blog who did NOT harbor such ignorant hatred.
“Fantastic, a nice shiny red herring. And very pretty it is, too.”
No red herrings from you above, Richard? No straw men?
“My primary school “research project” was a really badly drawn three-stage rockets with Yuri Gagarin in the capsule. I read books for that, too.”
How’d that work out for you, Richard? Did you make it into orbit? Didn’t you know that Gagarin’s rocket was not three-stage? Are you sure the government would allow you to have the full picture? Are you suggesting you’re so much smarter than other rocket engineers?*
* You see how this works.
Is this a cousin of yours, Arsalan Goldberg?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8b3vhTO248
“It would surprise me if there were a commenter at this blog who did NOT harbor such ignorant hatred”.
Not me Larry. I’ve met some very intelligent, well-informed and well-educated Americans. I also think Thomas Pynchon is probably the finest living writer in the English language.
I do think however that Americans are very ill-served by their system because it has been almost totally taken over by corporate interests. You pay all those taxes and what to do get in return? Most of it gets shovelled into the back pockets of the arms industry and the Federal Reserve.
Larry
Harbouring ignorant hatred.
By ‘ignorant’ you mean that we know stuff we’re not supposed to know because we have been to places and talked with people from outside the US of A. Unfortunately for you, by this definition our ‘ignorance’ is almost total. Blair is sweating, because this is not how colonialism is supposed to work. Alhamdulillah, the advance of technology has smashed open the secrets of the international colonial/criminal classes. Keep popping duds at us and we’ll keep lobbing RPGs of truth at you.
Enjoy the fireworks display. display.
“I do think however that Americans are very ill-served by their system because it has been almost totally taken over by corporate interests.”
No, it hasn’t. And to the extent that argument can be made, it can also be made of the UK.
“You pay all those taxes and what to do get in return?”
Plenty.
“Most of it gets shovelled into the back pockets of the arms industry and the Federal Reserve.”
Nope. Find me a pie chart. Also, anyone who brings up the Federal Reserve is likely someone who watches manipulative documentaries with wide eyes and a blank brain.
“How’d that work out for you, Richard? Did you make it into orbit?”
Of course not, any more than your device went off. That’s why I’d be very foolish to base a claim to special knowledge as a rocket-scientist on such “research”.
See ? The problems with the argument are blindingly obvious when it’s someone else making it.
Richard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
“to the extent that argument can be made, it can also be made of the UK”.
Not quite. We still have our beloved NHS. Our education system, though not what it was, still accounts for a far higher proportion of government spending than in the US. On key indicators, such as adult literacy rates, the US lags behind many third world countries.
“Also, anyone who brings up the Federal Reserve…”
Are you suggesting that a significant proportion of your taxes do not go towards paying interest to the Fed for all the dollars it has printed?
“Not quite. We still have our beloved NHS. Our education system, though not what it was, still accounts for a far higher proportion of government spending than in the US. On key indicators, such as adult literacy rates, the US lags behind many third world countries.”
Your issue was with corporate interests. Other than the health care coverage issue, what does this have to do with whether or not America has been taken over by corporate interests?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Well, yeah. I just thought you needed a straight man to bring out the full surreal humour of it.
Finished now, I’ll leave it there.
“Are you suggesting that a significant proportion of your taxes do not go towards paying interest to the Fed for all the dollars it has printed?”
So will EVERY modern conspiracy theory eventually show up on Craig Murray’s blog?
Next up – Roswell?