For all those nutters who cry “Conspiracy theory” whenever it is stated that the CIA have ever done anything wrong, here is a story from that impeccably conservative source, the Daily Telegraph:
A 50-year mystery over the ‘cursed bread’ of Pont-Saint-Esprit, which left residents suffering hallucinations, has been solved after a writer discovered the US had spiked the bread with LSD as part of an experiment.
Larry you dumb-ass shill!
Were we to start talking about Judaism in the same insulting terms you do about Islam you would be crying “anti-semitism” all the way to the “hate-crime” tribunal.
Typically for someone so irretrievably mired in falsehood and ignorance you are way off-topic yet again.
CIA mind control and social engineering were at their height during the 1960s counter-culture.”Turn on,tune in and drop out” lifestyles were pedalled by mind control agents like Ken Kesey,Timothy Leary and Wavy Gravy.All of whom were CIA assets.
The same young generation that had been infected with the Frankfurt social engineering psycho-babble that obliged them to rebel against their bourgeois families lest they be diagnosed as anti-semitic “authoritarian” personalities were now channelled away from politics into drugs,mysticism and ultimately,as with the Manson cult,into satanism.
These are all elite indulgences of some longevity which of course goes a long way to explaining their initial provenance.
Woodstock marked the ultimate mind-control experiment giving the elite the chance to test their wonder drug on a crowd of half a million.
Other elite-sponsored mind control cults at that time included the Symbionese Liberation Army,Jim Jones,Scientology,the Moonies,Son of Sam and Heaven’s Gate.
It’s an ongoing war designed to use controlled chaos as a means to keep society off balance and zoned out.Apathy and self-interest are promoted to defuse any challenge to the elite order.
As the imminent Depression clouds gather around the Obama presidency and Americans become increasingly angry with the economic storm the bail-outs have only exacerbated-the psy-ops that began in the sixties may blow up in the faces of those who initiated them in the first place.
Doubtless even when the game’s up and the synarchy can no longer afford to pay their shills-mind control will still hold the likes of dingbat Larry in its vice-like grip for some time to come.
Please God some latter-day CIA-controlled Jim Jones kindly fix it for Larry and the shills to migrate to some new cult heaven in the S.American jungle!
“Were we to start talking about Judaism in the same insulting terms you do about Islam you would be crying “anti-semitism” all the way to the “hate-crime” tribunal.”
Bullshit.
If a Jew ever tried to push onto me his silly Abrahamic faith, I would justifiably ridicule it. As he is want to do, Anno above wrote “You have to have the latest antivirus software, which is Islam, to find a cure.” He also had some primitive words about the status of women in society.
You people are so easily defeated.
The remainder of your paragraphs is just a word salad.
Ah! A sterling – and stirring – rapier-strike from apostate/ tungsten/steelback!
As almost always, the political analysis is spot-on.
Apostate, I know that you won’t answer this question, because it’s why you’re using various pseudonyms a la Fernando Pessoa (though his pseudonyms used to assume different points-of-view and argue with one another in the Portuguese press! But perhaps you do the same, and are possessed of multiple pseudonyms, some of which are hermeneutic) in the first place, but I’m posing it anyway in somewhat rhetorical fashion: Who are you?
Larry, with respect, you’ve not yet answered my honestly-posed question. I am not asking it in a cynical or rhetorical manner. Please see 9:38pm entry. Thank you.
A question on Farishtae, for the night. Which is the most senior rank of the angelic host? The archangels, or the seraphiel?
Larry, with respect, you’ve not yet answered my honestly-posed question.
–Suhayl Saadi
He hasn’t anwered any of mine either. And I wasn’t being rhetorical either.
“dreoilin, why change the subject?”
–Larry
Why do you run from questions? Do you have a position on torture or the other matters I mentioned, or do you let others do all of your thinking for you?
“Are you going to let Muslims roll over you for the rest of your life?”
At my age I’d probably be chuffed. Assuming they were male of course.
“Just because I don’t believe in your silly conspiracy theories does not believe [sic] that I condone anything the Bush administration ever did.”
–Larry
Anything? Ever? Wow.
Larry does not answer questions because he doesn’t know why he believes what he believes. That’s why his only response to free debate is to lob crude custard pies.
I agree with what most of what Apostate says about cults. How interesting that these well-funded, well-organised cults seem to appear from nowhere, only to be shot down in a blaze of scandal and horror. Is it to dissuade us from contemplating alternative forms of living and thinking, and reinforce our myopic adherence to the cult of corporate hegemony?
Actually, dreoilin, the “Just because I don’t believe in your silly conspiracy theories does not believe [sic] that I condone anything the Bush administration ever did” assertion from AngryLarry is not as ludicrous as it might sound (his poor grasp of English notwithstanding).
What did the Bush administration actually do for the 99.7%, the ordinary working American, let alone anyone foreign? There is no reward for this, because there is actually an answer, hard as that might be to believe. But there really is one small portion of an Act passed by the rethugs/ Bush which did benefit the working man – dig quite a bit, and you might find it.
So – for perhaps the only time – I’ll vouch for our resident cutie trolly here. Like every right thinking person who hasn’t seriously pondered the subject, he can’t think of a single thing Dubbya/ Repugs have ever done which is worth condoning.
Bullying is finding your opponents’ buttons and pushing them. You accuse someone of doing precisely that thing that they most dislike, presumably because at some time they have been on the receiving end. Hence in the BBC play of Murder in Samarkand, the Foreign Office tried to bully Craig through his assistant’s anti-Usbek violence. Turning the screws back on him. Hence the Israel constantly accuses the self-defending victims of its violent apartheid, of terrorism. Hence Larry goes on and on about 9/11.
You accuse the victim of the crime. Larry is not interested in answering questions. It’s his job to find out what people’s weak spots are, so that he can accuse the victims of perpetrating the crimes which have actually been perpetrated on them. Bullies are scared that the process will be reversed and applied to them. If they answer questions, they think that other people as nasty as them will find out their weak points and bully them back.
Apostate asked God to fix it for Larry and the shills.. and the prayer has been answered. Tony Blair’s bully-blocked- ears cult is coming to the US soon. Larry can relax and be carried in the crowd with a tide of emotion. We did it!!!! We killed two million Muslims in ten years and we’ve still not been struck down!! When you’ve got an organ in front of you, you may as well push all the pedals and pull all the buttons at the same time.
and of course, the grin…
I wouldn’t call it a grin so much as a rictus. As Tony Booth put it so well, Blair has all the charisma and charm of a set of false teeth, grinning at you from inside a glass of water.
It’s the grey suits of the FCO that brief the Blair’s what to do, not the other way round. First they are despatched as Craig was to various hotspots round the world. They spy and manage espionage so that when they become seasoned diplomats they can advise Prime Ministers what the UK needs from the world. Their job is to monitor the progress of the machinations of their predecessors and make a plan for the next hundred years.
The grey suits who set up the current illegal invasions, did so thirty-five years ago, and are now in their smouldering coffins. The senior grey suits who get to tell Blair and Brown what to do, are allowed to revise the plan according to their own experience. Blair and Brown are just actors who learn the score and read from the autocue.
What this means is that the strategy of obtaining intelligence from torture was written, before Tony Blair was even born. The inability to enforce the Geneva Convention was built into it by its authors. The plan for world war two was already at the printers while the troops were dying at The Somme. That’s why you need a seventy year privacy rule, so that nobody spots the connections.
Chilcot is just a Royal matinee for these people. It’s not a window into the working of government at all. I think that we should be very grateful that the grey suits sometimes miscalculate that one of their recruits won’t play ball. Unless we’re all being taken for a ride by the grey suits, including Craig. They let us all write our comments and after, they know what to do.
For perfect printing and to avoid streaks and lines, run your printer’s head-cleaning program on a regular basis. Better out than in.
The minimum wage is now so low , compared to the cost of living, people are going to have to pinching handkerchiefs like Victorian times. My daughter was telling me yesterday that London rich mums put ipods in childrens’ party bags where you and I might have put a packet of polos. I love Mrs T. I can’t wait to see what her latest apprentice has in stall for us on 6 May.
Jesse Ventura Former Minnesota Governor agrees with Larry
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35728268/ns/today-today_books/#ixzz0iRLUF6N0
Maybe they are both on acid and suffering hallucinations
Some people will believe anything
Tony
“Netanyahu’s brother-in-law: Obama is an anti-Semite”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1157061.html
It’s beginning to be laughable …
When I was a teenager, it was a serious charge.
Now it’s a joke.
And the USA will do zero about the new Israeli settler homes.
Here’s a map Juan Cole posted during the week:
http://tinyurl.com/y8a6wpp
“Here’s a map Juan Cole posted during the week”
It seems to be catching peoples’ eye, I’ve seen it copied all over. And very effective it is, too. But it puzzles me a bit – the captions, “Jewish land” and “Palestinian land”, how were they actually worked out ? The middle two seem clear enough, clear political borders (in a theoretical could-have-been sort of way, anyway), but what about the “1945” and “2000” ones ? Actual land-ownership records ? population head-counts ?
“And the USA will do zero about the new Israeli settler homes.”
You’re very likely right, of course. But, it seems to be going further than I’d have expected, within the US establishment. Not for reasons I’m too keen on, particularly – Clinton’s much-quoted “Who’s the fucking superpower here ?” isn’t exactly endearing to the outside world, same old same old – but the military point, ‘this is actively dangerous to US troops as they occupy other peoples’ countries’ seems a bit more than that. Not that I’m in favour of the occupation(s), but the observation that “People don’t like it, and we can’t avoid taking note of that for ever” does seem to contain a possibility of something different. Maybe even a reality-check ?
I’m more or less taking it for granted that any conclusions drawn from any such check are not likely to be what I’d reckon the ‘right’ ones, of course. But it still seems like a faint glimmer of something a little healthier than the ideological fantasy. If “Why do they hate us ?” could become, perhaps, a little bit more than denialist rhetoric ?
Expecting a flood of “In yer dreams, pal”.
“Jesse Ventura Former Minnesota Governor agrees with Larry”
No, no. He’s a conspiracy nut. Get it right.
Good yawning, Larry.
“Are you going to let Muslims roll over you for the rest of your life?” “At my age I’d probably be chuffed”
*laughter*
“Is it Really as bad as this in the USA?”
No.
I didn’t realize that was written by Paul Craig Roberts.
Hilarious.
I suppose it should be no surprise that nutjobs rely on other nutjobs for information.
Larry, hello, good evening from the United Kingdom. At the risk of seeming to badger you, you know, you’ve not answered my simple question yet. I would be interested in learning details of the divergences between your views and the actions of the Bush (and also Obama) Administrations in relation to foreign policy. You alluded to the existence of such divergence. Thank you.
Anno, they learn much from all of us. We are their anthropological subjects. This is how their empires were, and are, constructed. We are the bears, seeking pots of honey. They are the worker-bees. The hive is theirs.
Suhayl Saadi wrote:
“Wouter Basson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wouter_Basson
The shits in Apartheid South Africa were deliberately experimenting with microbes in an attempt to manufacture a biological warfare agent that would attack, specifically, black Africans. The CIA and MI6 were hand-in-glove with them. ”
yes, the british government aren’t too keen to answer questions regarding ‘Project Coast’.
See http://preview.tinyurl.com/ylbo3ye
Andrew MacKinlay stated (on 1st July 2006) that the MOD & the intelligence community met on 13 January 2006 for a _”handling strategy” meeting_ about parliamentary questions that MacKinlay had submitted in relation to Project Coast…..
Then again it probably is another conspiracist theory…