Norway gives an example of a reasonable diplomatic reaction to the Israeli atrocity. The silence from the Lib-Con coalition is truly shocking and completely indefensible.
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2010/05/31/norway-shocked-over-israels-attack/
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I too am disgusted.
Israel is a barbaric country and should be immediaely isolated.
Apparently BBC obfuscation of the issue began early.
http://johnhilley.blogspot.com/2010/05/bbc-still-silent-on-gaza-flotilla.html
Hague has now issued a statement:
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/news/latest-news/?view=News&id=22300485
Finally something from Hague, as of 12.13: “UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said he “deplored” the loss of life on the flotilla and was seeking more information and urgent access to any UK nationals.”
There’s a bit more on the BBC news online site.
Don’t know about this one.
Surely the troops would not start blasting out bullets for no reason…and let us wait to find out what the ships were carrying..
The whole world is now ruled on just one premise.
Might is right.
Turkey, isn’t that the country that perpetrated the Armenian genocide after WW1? Also isn’t Turkey oppressing the Kurds as well? Remember the ancestors of the Turks – the Ottomans – ruled Palestine for 400 years. Free Palestine, free Kurdistan!
Yes, Turkey oppresses the Kurds. How does that justify the Israelis boarding an aid convoy in international waters and killing peace activists?
Livny has just been on Sky News speaking about provocation justifying the extreme violence of Israeli commando forces. What could be more provocative than heavily armed Israeli commandos attacking these defenceless boats from helicopters while 80 miles offshore in international waters?
At least we never heard once the word “antisemitic” which is normally the only word in the vocabulary of Israeli politicians. As a substitute we are now expected to believe these people were all “Hamas terrorists” – give us a break. Israel just feels so compunction about killing any Goyim they feel like crushing like cockroaches.
So long as Israel is so very brutal towards its neighbours it is ever harder to be positive in one’s thoughts. These are the rantings and ravings of political autism. Combine that with Israel’s constant denial of their massive WMD including more nuclear warheads than the UK owns, it is time for a massive rethink about why the West (especially the USA) supports this barbaric regime without question.
OK I am off to Downing St to demonstrate. I’ll get an update on Brian Haw while I am there.
Don’t tell me that anyone here thougth Israel would not expose the/any British Govt’s slaveishness?
It was going to be Israyhell or banking (and to some there is little difference)
British cowards.
Craig,
Do you have a view on the legality of occupants of a ship using force to repel boarders? Does it matter whether the boarders are the armed forces of a nation state to the answer? Does it matter whether or not the ship flew a white flag?
I’d be curious to read a detailed legal analysis.
The craven attitude of the media and the politicians towards Israel is appeasement of the worst possible kind. Every time they turn a blind eye Israel believes it can go further the next time. Had Iran done this to the British sailors it captured the media and political response would have gone into overdrive and we would probably have launched retaliatory strikes. Why should Israel get a free pass on this? It is difficult to express the depth of disgust Israel provokes now, to any decent humane person.
From lwtc247 at 12.54 – “It was going to be Israyhell or banking (and to some there is little difference)” – sorry, but that comment reveals your vile antisemitism. We all know how it goes – ‘Urrrr, them jews and their bags of money, they control the world-wide web of banking you know, and the Tri-Lateral Commission and the Tea Party and Disney, urrrrr’
Usual monomanical racist bollocks.
Roger Whittaker at 2010 12:38 PM,
thanks for the FCO link: that’s a pretty good statement from Hague. Although he doesn’t mention the illegality of an attack in international waters, he does call for the lifting of the blockade of Gaza.
We wait to see if it’s a case of “say one thing, do the opposite”.
The Israelis have a history of attacking vessels on the high seas. Lets not forget what happened to USS Liberty in 1967
http://www.gtr5.com/
Israeli aircraft and ships spent 2 hours pummelling the Liberty killing 34 of her crew.
The reaction of the US government was to cover it up and go along with the fiction it was a case of ‘mistaken identity’.
For an awfully long time the Israelis have known they can do absolutely **anything** and no one will lift a finger to stop them.
surely it is this kind of incident which by accident or design can trigger a whole spectrum of unforseen consequences and military actions.
How far will Israel push it, where is the tipping point here?
When you have unruly neighbours who just won’t follow accepted conventions and civilised behaviours then there comes a time when only heavy handed and violent actions are the only alternative.
I fear that time is coming nearer.
Lwtc247,
Mike Cobley,
I respectfully suggest you tone it down a bit. Aid workers have DIED. Please concentrate on that which you agree about, and not fall victim to ‘divide and rule’.
This terrorist by act took place at 32.583 North 33.456 East 79 miles from Israel coast…….Facts from Marinetraffic .com
@ mike cobblers mike May 31, 2010 1:11 PM
In mikes eyes, Zionist bankers are not Zionists but Jews. Mike as usual cannot differentiate between Jews and Zionists.
Usual ignorant tosh.
William Hague’s reaction sounds fine to me.
“Yes, Turkey oppresses the Kurds. How does that justify the Israelis boarding an aid convoy in international waters and killing peace activists?”
Craig, glad you recognise Turkey’s oppression of the Kurds. No it does not attacking an aid convoy but was Israel provoked into attacking that ship?
Also how come there is no aid convoy for the oppressed Kurds, Armenians and Assyrians in Turkey?
I wonder whether this violent, military attack on unarmed civilian ships, in international waters, with such heavy loss of life, will be called a ‘massacre’ by the leaders of the so-called ‘international community’? I have my doubts somehow.
Imagine if Iran or North Korea had launched such an attack, how differently the mainstream media would have reacted, but of course they are both official enemies whilst Israel is an official friend. That makes all the difference.
It’s apalling that such a tiny, and insignificant country, is treated as if it was some kind of great power, with journalists, news organizations and politicians, incredibly careful about not appearing to criticize Israel or its increasingly agressive and violent behaviour. Why are UK politicians so circumspect when it comes to Israel?
As a person with a strong Jewish line in our family tree, I feel nothing but contempt for the ghastly and dangerous changes that are taking place in Israel, especially with our history.
When did Israelis change into the virtual ‘master race’ of the Middle East? The sick, racist, Zionist, fantasy of dominating the region by military force is the exact opposite of the strategy Israel should be adopting. Israel needs to integrate and become just another of the many minorities in the region, otherwise the future is very bleak.
Israel, by actions like these and, heaven forbid, the next war that it is planning, is sowing the seeds of its own eventual destruction, when the region finally explodes. And every new massacre only brings that day closer.
Somehow, the stranglehold of the Israeli nationalist, rightwing; people who could easily pass for fascists, and what a terrible histrical irony that is; somehow – the right’s dominance has to be broken before they drag us all into the flames of hell where all that’ll be left is ashes for everyone.
Who do these people think they are?
The Children of God !!!
Ha ha.
About time the rest of the world sorted them out.
The next flotilla should be a 1000
ships.
ps Fox News during the night totally ignored the event.
Tells you everything you need to know about the the infiltration of society by decent society by the Zionists.
Guilt trip,
Isn’t that British occupy Northern Ireland? Free Palestine, Free Northern Ireland, Free Kurdistand.
I don’t give much chance for Iran after this.
Ah jist lurve that lwtc247 – ah got all his hit rekurds, oh he’s got such a big brayne, he is so mighty and right all the time, that is he mah heeero!
Sic.
writerman:
Well said
[email protected] – you’re quite right, such that I will only respond to lwtc (if I respond at all) in terms of obtuse satire. We should save our energies for the real struggle. I hope lwtc247 will agree.