Hmmm. Not only did the Saudi secret service have the precise details of the bomb packages, the female alleged terrorist in Sanaa gave her phone number to the courier company. As all ultra dangerous highly trained al-Qaidah operatives are obviously taught to do.
Meanwhile David Cameron ups the 9/11 hype by saying the bombs might have been detonated on the plane. Well certainly, they might. Except that, given the parcels changed cargo planes three times, it would be difficult to know when they were on a plane and where. And why then address them to Jewish organisations in Chicago, which might arouse suspicion coming from Sanaa, rather than a fictitious uncle or a mail order curtain company?
I still think this probably was another half-arsed terrorist attempt, like the liquid bomb plot or the man who set fire to his gonads. Super dangerous and deserving all the hype it plainly was not.
Technicolour – so you mean a wish for cross-posting, like seeing a shooting star. I’ve made mine…
Yep, shades of Alfred here.
There’s something sad about this. The media’s constant stoking of islamophobia is often discussed here, but when a post shows islamophobic feeling, replies are often abusive. If we seriously believe that propaganda happens, we should seriously consider that commenters here may have been affected by it.
Alan, why would you assume that, rather than that they’d like NATO forces out of Afghanistan?
Immigration’s great when people really want to assimilate. But if you think there’s no problem in Britain with recent waves of migration, then you’re even more out of touch than me.
Clark: I meant that we both posted puzzled (in my case more sarcastic) messages about why alan would be so concerned about subjects so far from his daily life.
Otherwise, thanks, you’re quite right.
Clark
Once again, just by listening to what they say. Their martyrdom videos make it clear that they have a “higher purpose” than changing UK foreign policy.
Assimilation happens gradually, and it’s not a one-way process. Islamophobia is both a result and a cause of slow assimilation.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!
My strong suspicion is that if the foreign policy changes, the rather desperate justification of martyrdom will tend to evaporate.
Well we’ll have to agree to differ. My strong suspicion is otherwise. Give an inch to a bully, and you’re finished. Foreign policy would just be the start. Read what UBL wrote about the weak horse and the strong horse.
Alan Campbell as we might have guessed has a tabloid-level understanding of the concept of “interventionism”.
Interventionism worked in neither Rwanda nor Kosovo. Only a corporate news junkie could fatuously claim that it did.
In both cases powerful Western interests in the US and Britain in particular deliberately triggered ethnic conflicts that advanced their power and profit-hungry geo-strategic objectives.
The installation of the Kagame regime in Rwanda allowed Western corporations to make exponential profits in minerals on the back of the aggressive wars Rwanda began to wage in the Congo and elsewhere.
The break-up of Yugoslavia likewise was accomplished at huge human cost by the deliberate sparking of ethnic conflict by Western interests.
The ethnic groups that stood athwart the post-Cold War Western geopolitical agenda in Africa and the Balkans-the Hutus in Rwanda and the Serbs in the Balkans-were demonised by the compliant corporate media Mr Campbell seems to spend an undue amount of time reading.
Apostate is spot on. We don’t need the ill-informed mindless spouting of people like Campbell. There’s quite enough of such idiocy in the corporate media.
Let’s hope Campbell doesn’t get caught in the crossfire of some Cali drugs-cartel war.
No let’s just hope he falls down a well or something.
Signed a well-wisher!
Alan, there will always be nutters. The best thing is not to give them a cause. How did the German chancellor get to be Fuhrer? Oh yes, the allies destroyed the German economy.
“Let’s hope Campbell doesn’t get caught in the crossfire of some Cali drugs-cartel war.
No let’s just hope he falls down a well or something.”
Some more of that reasoned conversation, Clark?
I see you’re a splendid isolationist, steelback. Good for you. Good thing we let those Tutsis die.
Clark
There was also this little thing called appeasement which might have encouraged Adolf a bit.
True. That doesn’t make destroying the economy sensible, though.
Right off to look for a well. Hasta luego, queridos.
Cheerio Alan. When you find that well, have a long, cool drink for me.
The dingbat with thermite up his kilt might also need reminding that one of the militias that came to assist the Western-sponsored break-way republic of Bosnia in its fight against the Serbs was none other than his dreaded Al Qaida!
Iranian arms and advisers were also allowed into Bosnia 1992-96 by the US along with a vast influx of jihadists from Afghanistan,Chechnya,Yemen,and Algeria. Many of these had trained in OBL’s camps in Afghanistan.
The German BND and agents from the US,Turkey,and Iran supplied the Bosnian muslims while the Serbs were armed by the Ukraine,Greece and Israel.
All these states used “interventionism” to achieve the break-up of Yugoslavia desired by pre-eminently powerful Western states and to increase their influence in the states that sprung up after its demise.
Ironically the jihadist groups worldwide that Campbell invokes constantly as bogeymen were the vehicle for Western interventionism in Bosnia,Chechnya and elsewhere.
Measured in moral terms by the vast amount of human misery and carnage that ensued from the “interventionism” practised by the Western powers in Rwanda and Yugoslavia the concept was vastly catastrophic for most of the people who lived there.
Measured in terms of corporate profits from armaments and narcotics and the extension of the geopolitical reach of powers like the US and Britain the concept’s practitioners might regard it as a resounding success.
Imbeciles like Alan Campbell without a moral compass or indeed a brain the size of a walnut would probably agree.
Apostate et al are banned from this site for persistent anti-semitism and holocaust denial.
About time you people worked out where Wahhabism came from.
It was sponsored by British intelligence as a means to undermine firstly the Ottoman Empire and latterly secular Arab states that would not submit to Western interests.
Check out David Livingston’s Terrorism and the Illuminati or Peter Goodgame at RedMoonRising.
Do some study for Chrissakes!
..and the ravishing Colombianas in their short skirts and tight clothes.
Yeh! Lush eh Alan? – makes the missus start lookin’ in the mirror.
No, Mark. She’s a fine proponent of wearing short skirts and tight clothes herself. Bet you’re jealous, ‘eh?
For our friends who still don’t get it re-false-flag terror vetstoday does a full deconstruction here:
http://veteranstoday.com/2010/10/31/gordon-duff-bombs-terrorism-and-manure/
Scroll down to the comment board which is far more adult and insightful than you’ll find here.
One commenter suggests that the amateurish false-flag now being attributed to Al Qaida heralds the use of a dirty nuclear bomb that will be blamed on Iran,Lebanon,or the Palestinians or all three. The pretext being that the amateurish ones previously were unsophisticated Al Q attacks but the nuclear false flag could only have been the work of a state like Iran.
I reckon he’s on to something.
Stack up the freezer and baton down the hatches WW3 starts directly after the US mid-terms.
Predictive programming on the internet by the likes of Alan Campbell and the shill team here and corporate media hyping of the threat should have you all inured to the idea of general war being just round the corner by now.
Yep,November 9th Obama going to be away on holiday and is not expected back and Hilary’s out of town that day. Expect Joe Biden to tell us we’ve all got to save Israel from the threat of anihilation its reaped since it launched its “retalliatory strike” against Iran.
So now just sit back in your seats and tell all your family it was inevitable anyway that the lights are going out all over the world right now:
http://halfpasthuman.com/wolf.html
Alan
” My strong suspicion is otherwise. Give an inch to a bully, and you’re finished. Foreign policy would just be the start. Read what UBL wrote about the weak horse and the strong horse.”
Quite agree – see my latest post on how to deal with Karimov. Problem is we seem a bit selective about which bullies we dislike.
Or it could be more bollocks:
Suspicious Package to U.S. not from Yemen; Yemenia Air Cargo Director
* Yemen Post Staff
Mohammed al-Shaibah, Air Cargo Director for Yemenia Airways said to Yemen Post, “No UPS cargo plane left Yemeni lands over the land 48 hours. These accusations are false and baseless.”
He added, “No UPS or DHL cargo packages heading to Chicago through Yemen took place in the last 48 hours as well.”
“All packages are checked very carefully in Yemen, and there is no evidence to prove that this package came through Yemen.”
CNN reported the suspicious package, which contained a “manipulated” toner cartridge, tested negative for explosive material, the source said, but it led to heightened inspection of arriving cargo flights in Newark, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and a UPS truck in New York.
Yemen Post Staff
http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=2705