Hmmm. Not only did the Saudi secret service have the precise details of the bomb packages, the female alleged terrorist in Sanaa gave her phone number to the courier company. As all ultra dangerous highly trained al-Qaidah operatives are obviously taught to do.
Meanwhile David Cameron ups the 9/11 hype by saying the bombs might have been detonated on the plane. Well certainly, they might. Except that, given the parcels changed cargo planes three times, it would be difficult to know when they were on a plane and where. And why then address them to Jewish organisations in Chicago, which might arouse suspicion coming from Sanaa, rather than a fictitious uncle or a mail order curtain company?
I still think this probably was another half-arsed terrorist attempt, like the liquid bomb plot or the man who set fire to his gonads. Super dangerous and deserving all the hype it plainly was not.
You’re not allowed to admire Colombians in the UK?
“I was encouraged yesterday when you engaged positively here, so I’m saddened today that you have returned to issuing sulky insults..”
Ah, such wilful blindness, Clark. You clearly never see the insults that head the way of anyone who disagrees with the prevailing conspiacy theorist views on this site. I think I’ll call you Arsene from now.
Anyway, that’s enough for today. I’m off out for a steak (just thought I should elaborate in case you thought I was going to bed, Craig).
With so many short skirts and tight jeans you would have thought the poor old South Americans would have been up to their necks in Islamist Fundamentalists trying to slaughter them for their freedoms
“You’re not allowed to admire Colombians in the UK?”
Ha, good one. Well, maybe you have a little while longer before the toxic combination of political correctness and fundamental religion really takes hold in Blighty.
Ta-ra.
Do enjoy your steak. Medium rare…?
This wouldn’t be the same Latin America that was the plaything of the US establishment for decades in the name of anti-communism, the war on drugs and cheap fruit would it?
because the people of that Latin America really are falling over themselves in support of US and UK foreign policy aren’t they
I do so love setting traps for trolls. Remember the lot who threatened legal action? This one’s a piece of cake.
email received today – ant thoughts?
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Comments: I thought I inform you out of goodwill. There is scammer who claimed to be a doctor with the forces in Iraq and is impersonating as the Chairman of your association. He has used your association to ask for donation which I am sure those money do not go to you.
Hell how did Cannonbell wind up in Colombia?
And Cathouse is evidently back in St Lou.
The suicide vest,shoe,underpants and kilt sprayed with super-thermite were supposed to blow them both to Kingdom come.
Damp squibs again and so the disinformation crew are back here boring us shitless with their usual trigger phrases: Al Ciada, Joos, Protocols, Lizards, self-loathing, and nut-jobs!
Worse still we’ve got the eleven year old with self-esteem issues,the Aronavitch of the internet,angrisoda!
Evidently he thinks Bill Maher’s a really cool dude and all his mates here will be real impressed with the name-drop.
What caught my attention was when his fellow shill a.k.a. Alan Cannonbell started ranting re-people on this comment board being “admirers of religious extremism.”
Now typically these guys have short memories but I for one remember a time within weeks of 911 in fact when Bill Maher was being pilloried by the corporate media for just that.
Just what?
Admiring “religious extremism” that’s what!
Yep,ol’ Bill had the temerity back in October 2001 to shake his corporate media backers to the core. On his Politically Incorrect show he contrasted US pilots with the 911 “hijackers” saying:
“We have been cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building-say what you like about it,it’s not cowardly.” (OUCH!)
His sponsors immediately pulled all sponsorship from the show. At a press briefing White House spokesman Ari Fleischer weighed in against Maher.
Since making his grovelling apologies Maher like angri and the disinfo crew is back on air and on message.
However once even Maher broke with the ideological lockstep that took us the state of permanent war which we’re now in.
This is unlikely to be the case with angri,Cathouse,Camp-Bell and the disinfo team here.
The Mossad wars they’re here to sponsor are still very much on track.
Hey Bornfree
Call me a conspiraloon if you like but are you sure Maher wasn’t very much ON MESSAGE back in October 2001.
The jerk is still trying to cement in the public mind the fallacy that Islamist suicide hi-jackers carried out the attacks.
And by withdrawing sponsorship for a short time and having Fleischer treat Maher like he was off-message the corporate criminal network are still kick-starting their Wars of Plunder and domination agenda.
“BY WAY OF DECEPTION”
It’s classic Moschepoche and you missed it my friend! Maher-Fleischer Inc it’s all the same MIC corporate scam,dude.
Craig’s post from July 6th:
Apostate, Freeborn and Steelback (who may or may not all be the same person) are not welcome on this site, under these or any other names, for persistent anti-semitism and holocaust denial.
alan campbell: it’s true, I’m sorry I descended to being really quite cross with someone who pretended to be open-minded and then actually came back with a slurry of slurs.
Imagine (this is the closest I can get to your web contributions) that your friends are having an interesting, informative, usually amicable, sometimes challenging, communal conversation in a pub. Someone (and this, sorry, is a summary of your previous posts) periodically appears shouting “Lunatics! Killer supporters! I hate you!” and then disappears again. They do this every so often, with tedious regularity.
Finally they say: “but I truly thought you were all crazed killer supporters and therefore lunatics”; at which point everyone explains in some detail why this is mistaken. The point appears to be taken.
Until the next night when you reappear again shouting “Killer supporters! Lunatics!”.
What is one to do with you?
Brendan, yes, exactly.
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Mark, if you’ve got people – contacts – on the ground in Iraq, you could always check and also alert them – but you’d think they’d know if such things were happening. Also, if the person can tell you exactly which regiment, etc. they faker was from and in which city, that might narrow it down. Do you think it’s a real message, or designed just to derail and distract you?
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I’m so pleased that Alan is now communicating so volubly and expressively.
One appreciates his red-blooded and fecund observations of the attractions on-show in (whichever Colombian metropolis he is in).
Don’t you just wish you were there, eating steaks, and promenading?
!!Viva Colombia!!
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Alan, I can quite understand someone being very much against theocracy, etc. and also someone who doesn’t like ‘middle-class liberals/lefties’.
But I have to say that during all the time you’ve been posting here, as far as I can recall, never once until yesterday did you ever come out saying you were against the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, they are indeed a waste of money for the USA/UK et al states, but they’ve made, and continue to make, a heck of a lot of money for the arms industry and those associated with it. There’s also the human aspect. If we are against bombs going off in market-places in London, we ought to against bombs going off in Baghdad or some village in Pukhtunwala, no? Isn’t the sort of hypocrisy that condemns one and excuses the other exactly what you are accusing others of?
Furthermore, as please don’t feel I’m attacking you, I’m simply interested in discourse, I’d have thought that someone who admires Nye Bevan and Ernest Bevin and the old Labour Party and all it stood for would be incandescent, firstly, at what Tony Blair and his cohorts have done to the Labour Party and secondly, at what are really imperial wars.
I mean, ‘Old Labour’ stood completely against these things. Even a so-called ‘right-winger’ like Barbara Castle would have blown a gasket at current/ recent Labour Party policy on many things, but esp. on their foreign policy.
The so-called ‘Labour’ group around Nick Cohen, the ‘Euston Group’, on the other hand, very much ‘Islingtonian in nature (and wasn’t Tony Blair himself a paragon – indeed the epitome – of that type of social cohort?), were/ are totally supportive of these imperial wars of aggression.
The people who blog here span a very broad population cohort – that’s the ones who’ve revealed anything of themselves.
We have serving and retired police offers, electricians, IT experts, joiners, ex-Forces personnel, ex-diplomats (!), academics, writers of various sorts, ex-care workers, scientists, businesspeople and I’m sure many more. We all have differing views on many things. Nobody, as far as I can see, is defending any kind of terrorism – whether committed by states or smaller groupings.
You’d think that someone who was against the wars would actually be blogging on here, attacking the views of the pro-war advocates herein.
I admit that I’m still somewhat baffled.
I hope you had a good meal.
“Imagine (this is the closest I can get to your web contributions) that your friends are having an interesting, informative, usually amicable, sometimes challenging, communal conversation in a pub. Someone (and this, sorry, is a summary of your previous posts) periodically appears shouting “Lunatics! Killer supporters! I hate you!””
Not at all, technicolour. I see myself playing an Emperor’s New Clothes type role. Here you all are congratulating yourselves on being terribly clever and brilliant and along comes me saying I don’t think you are so clever and brilliant after all. You should welcome it, rather than sinking further into the despond of groupthink.
Went with the chicken in the end, Suhayl. And it’s true, Colombia is a beautiful country. What I would say is “old fashioned left” is traditionally very anti-theocratic. I’m just anti-religion, Suhayl. And I’m disturbed by clever people leaping to the defence of high-priets.
Alan Campbell,
as someone religiously indoctrinated in childhood, my experience is that criticism of religious belief is counterproductive, because the believer is indoctrinated to expect such criticism as the Work of the Devil. All you can do is keep being rational, and pray for them.
“Here you all are congratulating yourselves on being terribly clever and brilliant and along comes me saying I don’t think you are so clever and brilliant after all.”
Yeah well, that might be OK, if we weren’t reflecting the viewpoint of at least 70 percent of this country, most of whom don’t have access to the web and/or time to read or post. So, no, alan.
Also don’t see what’s so ‘terribly clever and brilliant’ about stating the bleeding obvious: violence begats violence. You may think there’s something clever about arguing the obvious, obviously.
Clark
I’m quite content with people having religious beliefs. I’d take my shoes of in a mosque, I’d wear a yarmulke in a synagogue. All out of politeness rather than belief, you understand. All I ask of religion is that it leaves me alone and doesn’t try to impose its views and practices. AQ’s whole rationale is to impose a new Wahabbite caliphate on Earth. I don’t really like the sound of that.
Suhayl
I haven’t commented on Iraq and Afghanistan as I tend to get more worked up by: religious fundamentalism, conspiracy theories, the economy. Hey, we all have our bag. I’m not against interventionism. It worked well in Sierra Leone and Kosovo. I rather wish it could have been attempted in Rwanda. It was never going to work in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Camp-Bell
You self-infatuated tart! We don’t give a shit what an arse-wipe Ziofascist like you thinks.
You guys are all over the corporate media we don’t need you on the internet as well.
Get your head out of the mirror and get back to Tel Aviv. The drug-run you’re on has been busted and it’s all about to go badly wrong.
There’s a Chabad house in Cartegena where they’ll take you in till the next flight out of Bogota.
Get the hell off your laptop. You and Larry have been rumbled!
Clark
Come and defend me from these insults!
I love it when you post, Apostate. More, please.
Alan Campbell,
No one from Al Qaeda has ever tried to convert me to Wahabbism, or attempted or threatened to kill me for my lack of belief, or indeed ever contacted me in any way. Bin Laden’s post-9/11 letter made various political, economic and human rights demands, and contained some religious language, but I don’t think it said anything about killing people just because of their religion.
As I understand it, Wahabbism is a politically inspired movement that uses distortions of traditional religious beliefs to manipulate people, but my argument that it is worse than useless to argue with its adherents applies just the same.
I live near London, apparently a likely target for Al Qaeda, and yet I don’t worry about Al Qaeda in my daily life at all. You live in Colombia, not an Al Qaeda target as far as I know. Why is it Al Qaeda that worries you so much?
nope, alan, you did comment on both attacks after Suhayl asked you (you didn’t support them: is your memory so bad?)
otherwise why, alan? why do you get so worked up by these very distant things? you’re not suffering from them. is that it: it’s easier to be callous because you’re not affected?
Hang on, Alan Campbell, I’ll have to find a ‘phone box… Sorry, my super-powers are ineffective against Apostate and his sock puppets!
Clark: cross-post – think we get a wish or something?
Technicolour; eh?
Clark
I just go back to the same point. Can’t stand religious types telling me what/how/who to think/wear/eat/drink/screw.
And even though I’m no longer there, I still have a feeling for Ukay. So I find it sad to see what unchecked immigration, a failed experiment with multiculturalism (thanks Tony B and Bev Hughes, by the way), political correctness and increasing religious fundamentalism is doing to the old place.
And before you say RACIST! My wife is a gorgeous afro-colombiana from Choco.
Yes, Alan, that’s my point – it’s only the media that go on about Wahabbists wanting to change your way of life, or mine. It certainly isn’t something that has actually ever happened to me. Has it happened to you, or is it just the media?
Clark: cross post meaning –
You live in Colombia, not an Al Qaeda target as far as I know. Why is it Al Qaeda that worries you so much?
and
otherwise why, alan? why do you get so worked up by these very distant things? you’re not suffering from them.
jesus, people who don’t live here.
“I find it sad to see what unchecked immigration, a failed experiment with multiculturalism (thanks Tony B and Bev Hughes, by the way), political correctness and increasing religious fundamentalism is doing to the old place.”
How funny is that?
Miscegenation is great, by the way. Colombia is one of the most multiRACIAL countries on Earth. 60% mestizo, 20% afrodescendientes, 10% indigentes, 10% blancos. But it’s not multiCULTURAL. Everyone’s proud to be Colombian.
Clark
Let’s wait and see, shall we? If someone set a bomb off on the Tube, I’d regard them as wanting to change my way of life.
Shit about ‘unchecked immigration’ when the UK is deporting someone every 6 seconds and locking up women and children asylum seekers indefinitely, can only come from someone who doesn’t live here because otherwise they would be evilly and deliberately in ignorance of the facts.
Never mind the joy of London’s multicultural markets and neighbourhoods. Sheer ignorance. Happy to leave it at that, since person in question not likely to influence policy.