Osama Bin Laden had perpetrated many acts of violence. Blowback does not only affect states; Osama Bin Laden was killed by his former allies, those who used to support and arm him. Celebrations of someone’s death are always distatsteful, but Osama Bin Laden dealt in violent death and died a violent death. Of course, he who lives by the sword is a two-edged observation; it applies to Americans too, and I am afraid there will sadly be further violence in the short term.
There are questions to be asked about why Osama Bin Laden was killed rather than captured, when he would evidently be such a valuable intelligence asset. There are aspects of the official story which do not add up. I have seen the photo of his body on France 24, and plainly he was killed by a head shot; if you have to shoot someone you are trying to capture, you do not go for the head. Secondly we are told that he could not be captured because there was a fierce firefight of resistance at the house; but that no Americans were injured. So not that fierce, then. Aside from Osama Bin Laden, only two men and one woman were killed – so again, hardly a great pitched battle. The building was then torched, destrying the forensic evidence.
If Bin Laden did not kill himself, or get one of his own men to shoot him, it remains open to question why he was taken out with a headshot in a situation where resistance had been so ineffective that no American had been hurt.
It is yet another commentary on the state of Pakistan that Bin Laden was living in a large house in Abbottabad – which is by no means a backwater. It is also a major garrison town and the headquarters for military and intellligence operations in the Afghan frontier areas. (By chance, James Abbott, its founder, is one of the Great Game players I am currently studying). I simply do not believe that Bin Laden could live for years in a million dollar home in Abbottabad without significant parts of the Pakistani military and intelligence community knowing he was there.
Too convenient that he was shot in the head after ‘resistance’. I’d wager he was summarily executed along with any witnesses neatly avoiding the expense of a trial and any embarrassing revelations.
There’s even suggestions that he’ll be ‘buried at sea’…so presumably his body is on a battle ship somewhere for the time being.
Having seen a photo of the corpse, I find it very strange indeed that the white hairs in his beard haven’t extended further after ten or more years.
Q. Did he exist? If so was he still alive? Does Al Quaida exist?
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Q. Will the assassination of Larry Silverstein of the WTC7 swindle follow?
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It’s all like an episode of that old US series SOAP!
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The latest in thia very tall story is that ‘he’ has been buried at sea or rather ‘disposed of’ according to one jubilant congressman. Nice terminology. And very rapid transit from N Pakistan to the Arabian Sea.
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Twerp Hague warns British nationals abroad to be wary. Of course the war on terrrr continues.
A very clever take on the Obama fiction by Anton on medialens.
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1304322587.html
Would such a clever man have depositied a substantual cache of information, in case of his ‘foreseen’ death at the hand of his captrers? I think that we might see some sort of information leak out and it will be heavily denied as rumour, made up, anything but near the truth. we shall see, who knows there might even be pictures and films of his glorious time working for the CIA. Osama shaking hands with leading CIA operatives, Osama on the school bench learning the balck op arts, etc. etc. histopry will not be able to erse his legacy in the services of America, he was their bagman first.
Given that the Yanks killed a hostage they were alleged to be rescuing (with a grenade – not exactly a surgically precise weapon) it doesn’t seem terribly far-fetched to claim that they shot Bin Laden when attempting to capture him. Doh!
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But I thought Bin Laden died a while ago. Dead again – what a guy!
Obama – “Justice has been done”. But no trial. What about “seen to be done”? There are things we wanted to know.
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Guardian – “US special forces launched a helicopter-borne assault on a closely guarded COMPOUND in Abbottabad…”. Anyone got a photo of this “compound”?
Benazir Bhutto thought she knew what happend to BL..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
No photo, but there’s a description in the Guardian:
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“Two years ago, the CIA found the rough location where the courier and his brother lived in Pakistan, and on August last year they narrowed it down to a compound, in an affluent area about 35 miles north of Islamabad.
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They realised immediately this was no normal residence. The walls were 12- to 18ft high, topped with barbed wire. Access to the compound was severely restricted. The main part of the residence was three storeys high but had few windows. It was valued at about $1m but had no phone or internet connection. It was a custom-built terrorist hideaway.”
Mike, above – it seems Benazir Bhutto meant to say “Daniel Pearl”:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIn_UnLO9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPqydUnP5s
Emmanuel Goldstein RIP
I almost deleted that; I think you had better explain what you mean – it looks like random anti-semitism.
As you say Craig, its all very strange!. I also thought he was dead, how could Benazir Bhutto have got that one wrong ?.
I didn’t think he was dead; but I doubt this burial at sea will seem like such a good wheeze in future.
Oh come on Craig! Emmanuel Goldstein was the phantom bogeyman in Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, target of the daily Two Minute Hate, and justification for the endless wars of the elites.
Apologies – my lack of culture (and memory) is cruelly exposed!
“A U.S. official says Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea.
After bin Laden was killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Pakistan, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world’s most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the U.S. decided to bury him at sea.”
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_17973097?source=bb
Nemo gratis mendax
The supposed photo of the body in France 24 seems to have been a fake – their newswire is now showing how it’s a composite of two photographs.
So, the body has been whisked away, never to be seen again. The “compound” where the alleged incident took place has been torched. The only hard evidence so far in support of this story is one, highly cropped, photograph.
Interesting and succinct analysis of that photo to found here:
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/02/6568249-we-think-that-bin-laden-death-photo-is-a-fake
As the decade following 9/11 draws to a close it draws a line under that chapter and gives Obama some much needed kudos for his re-election chances and for Americans to vent their collective spleen and to celebrate what they are so good at. Of course a new bogeyman will have to be created as OBL could not practically be used anymore and anyway his time was up and was sacrificed for BHO. How very convenient that all the loose ends were tidied up, body dumped at sea, house burnt, no trial, no investigation, no witnesses to tell the tale, how very Hollywood!
Innallilahi wa innalayhi rajiuwn
I don’t know if they have killed him, or whether he had died a long time ago. I don’t believe the Americans disposed of his body so quickly due to their respect of Islamic burial rights remembering that they have no record of respecting any of the rights of Islam especially burial rights.
Remembering that the Americans Burn dead Muslims in Afghanistan.
The death of my brother makes no difference to Islam. He was looked up to, by people who resist America.
But everyone dies, including the respected.
Even the Prophet Mohummed pbh has died, who was the best of creation.
And before he died, the Quran said this:
Qur’an, 3:144, which was revealed after the Battle of Uhud:
“Muhammad is no more than an Apostle: many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will you then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude.”
And when some Muslims were in shock after his death, Abu Bakr recited it.
Death is not the end of resistance. It is just a reward that the resisters seek.
If he didn’t die in battle, he would have died in bed.
And which is it do you think he was looking for?
which is it which would be of better use to resistance?
Khalid bin walid, was named the sword of Allah by Prophet Mohummed pbh. This title meant he was unable to be killed in battle. And wan ever war.
It meant he died in bed, something that upset him very much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UO_BoxFMdQ
Remember these words from Gaddafi:
“Bin Laden… this is the enemy who is manipulating people. Do not be swayed by Bin Laden,” he said.
“It is obvious now that this issue is run by al-Qaeda. Those armed youngsters, our children, are incited by people who are wanted by America and the Western world.
Gaddafi was playing the Al Qaeda card to conjure up the West’s fear of terrorism, presenting himself as a bulwark against militant Islamism in North Africa, and the guarantor of security and stability in the region.
“In a world bathed in joy and happiness it was correct to terminate a genesis that had turned full circle.” anon.
Now he is immortal…
I don’t know which photo people here are talking about? but this from the Guardian:
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“Osama bin Laden corpse photo is fake
Image of bloodied man picked up by British newspapers has been circulating online for two years”
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake
I’m amazed that you appear to take these claims at face value.
If US claims can EVER be taken at face value in the smoke and mirrors world of the GWOT – and that is a very big if – then I suggest it is way too early to do so with this one. You must surely be aware of credible claims of bin-Laden’s demise from the likes of Benazir Bhutto and others many years ago.
OTOH, they have gotten clean away with so many outrageous – not to say ludicrous – falsehood in the past 10 years, that they will doubtless have prepared the ground well and be similarly confident of their purposes with this one too. But, the house torched ?? – the body buried at sea ??? – Are we really THAT gullible?
The more pertinent questions I suggest are (for example) “why now?” – “What is this a distraction from and/or a preparation for?” – and suchlike.
Pulling a rabbit from the hat per Tony Cartalucci has a rather more persuasive air to it than anything you’ve written above.
Operation Cyclone is still well and live?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
I always have mixed feeling: to cry or to laugh… when I hear somebody use Al Quaida in real terms and portrayed it as “threat” to national security. Now what? Is the Estimate of NIC (National Intelligence Council) is going to be or to change to better. Is this means the end of the War on Terror? Are “values of freedom loving people” preserved?
Timing is the essence, always. Nobel Prize laureate, individual that tirelessly doing everything for the peace on the earth, has been given approval of corporate/military establishment for new mandate.
“You Can’t Handle the Truth”
Caution advised: This is only possible in Hollywood, still
it is nice to see this illusion of reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGvQtumNAY&feature=related
Osama bin Laden’s death boosts stock markets
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-stock-markets
Yikes!
Video from ABC here:
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http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/following-the-reaction-to-bin-ladens-death/?src=twt&twt=thelede#video-from-inside-bin-laden-compound
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showing the inside of the “compound” (it’s called the “kill site” underneath) and saying
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“A blood-soaked carpet is clearly visible amid scattered belongings. ABC reports that the room was “ransacked” by American special forces during the raid and that at least two computers in the room were taken.”
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I thought it had no internet? Who said that?
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This ‘buried at sea last night’ thing is very fishy (oops, sorry). Can never now be disinterred and identified? For all time? No DNA, nothing?
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As for “why now”: The Guantanamo files have just been released. I’ve already seen an American guy (in some uniform but not clear what) on Sky News talking about the need for, and importance of, “ongoing interrogations”, and how vital it has been that Obama kept up the unrelenting War on Terror …
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Meanwhile, here’s Fox News, December 26, 2001
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Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
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And Reuters has tweeted: “U.S. team’s mission was to kill, not capture bin Laden – U.S. security official”
then we need ways of deflating the stock market!
The Art of Lying: Bob Woodward/Rumsfeld Oct. 23rd 2003
Rumsfeld: “And you lie, you told people I stuck a finger in your chest. I never stuck a finger in your chest.”
Woodward: “Yes, sir, yes, yes.”
Rumsfeld: “I never touched your chest.”
Woodward: “I swear you did.”
Rumsfeld: “Did I?”
Woodward: “Yeah, you did.”
Rumsfeld: “Physically?”
Woodward: “You did, physically, it wasn’t hostile you were illustrating a point.”
Rumsfeld: “Good.”
Woodward: “I explained that. I thought you scored a very good point.”
Rumsfeld: (laughter)
Woodward: “Which was about surprise and off balance.”
Rumsfeld: “Oh yes, I did. I remember that you’re right …Yeah, right, you are right …I said you got to get a little off balance — I’ve done that. He’s right, I’m wrong.”
LIES – LIES – LIES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPJCPcYCupY
Note the laughter at Bush’s jokes about WMD – Who are these people – are they human? or is our world infiltrated by a sub-species? No! – the world is a mixing bowl of opposing thoughts, the strongest of which are destruction and creation.
I believe every single one of us has the power to affect our reality – it is called the power of intention; in the scientific world it is called quantum entanglement. Jim Carrey explains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qSTHPABoHc
He who lives by the sword…
Discovered in August 2010? Seems a bit of a delay
The website, What Really Happened, has interesting photos of the corpse of ‘bin Laden’ juxtaposed with earlier pictures. Apart from the dark hair and beard he appears to have had cosmetic surgery on his nose. DNA evidence taken at the scene ‘proves’ that this was indeed bin Laden. Slight difficulty in that it takes around 48 hours for the DNA testing. Odd, too, that so many US citizens were available outside of the White House at such short notice. As the head of Al Quaida aka The Toilet, this man would have had unprecedented access to other agents, cells and so on. Of course, during his questioning, it might have been obvious that Muslims were not responsible for 9/11. Oops! That was a close one.
The latest story is that they had preserved his sister’s DNA after she died a few years ago.
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So they had a firefight in Pakistan, torched the house, blew up their damanged helicopter, flew to Afghanistan where they did a DNA test (how long does that take?) and then flew his body to the sea. How far is that??
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bin-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html