The US ship in the Gaza peace convoy has been blocked from sailing by the Greek authorities on the grounds that they have received a “Private complaint” that the vessel is unseaworthy.
This is ludicrous. What if I were to choose a large commercial vessel in a Greek port from Lloyd’s Register, and make a “privare complaint” that it is unseaworthy. Would it be blocked from sailing? Of course not – I should be asked to produce grounds for my complaint. Vessels cannot simply be detained on the basis of vexatious complaint. International trade would grind to a halt.
We do not yet know who actually made this complaint, nor why the port authorities have chosen to act on it. They have told the vessel it will now be subject to inspections which may take some weeks. The legal way forward must be to seek in a Greek court to stop the Greek authorities from this obviously political action in detaining the ship and disrupting the peace convoy. Secondly it is difficult to believe that the Greek people, who are not fond of their government, will approve of it acting as a pure US and Israeli puppet in this way. Political pressure needs to be brought to bear as well.
I should not be surprised any more by the cynicism of western governments, yet I still am, continually. I wonder if I will die still expecting the world to get better.
“And this time in history they own everything, and everyone that matters.”
What do you mean by that?
“poison more water wells” Wow! You really wrote that, didn’t you? Apparently you don’t have a big enough brain to get past 12th century anti-Semitic tropes. That old gag – HAH!
by Y. Shitglitz… “poison more water wells” Wow! You really wrote that, didn’t you? Apparently you don’t have a big enough brain to get past 12th century anti-Semitic tropes. That old gag – HAH!”
@ Y. Shitglitz… Acre, Palestine 1947 “The city water supply comes from a nearby village, Kabri, about 10kms to the north, through an aqueduct. The Zionists injected typhoid in the aqueduct at some intermediate point which passes through
Zionist settlements”. I actually didn’t know you bastards have been doing this since the 12century.
@ John K,
Israel tries to argue that Gaza is disputed and not occupied territory.
If the territory was occupied it has one set of implications for maritime territorial boundaries – and – if it is not then another set of territorial boundaries would apply under international law.
The question then is what is the position under international law.
Legal provisions
– Hague regulations Oct. 1907, Section 3 Article 42-56:
– Article 42 states that “territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised.”
– The Geneva Conventions, which include the core tenants of International Humanitarian Law, are applicable; specifically Geneva Convention 4 Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
– The fourth Geneva Convention defines an occupation and the conduct that an occupying power should follow.
In summary, and how I see it. After the cessation of hostilities re. 1948 Jewish settlement (read: Israel-Egypt Armistice agreement) the boundaries must bear reference to that period – unless one negates any applicability of international law applied to the 1948, 1967 hostilities, or any other law ( domestic – or – international ) for that matter to any other period of hostilities. Land borders are the basic prerequisite for determining maritime boundaries.
Under international law, a country does not acquire territory, by reason of victory. Thus, we are back to the 1967 borders and that is what one has to refer to in respect of the true territorial limits relative to the present application of international law.
This all then leads to computations of:-
1. The Exclusive Economic Zone ( EEZ) and computation of equidistant lines.
2. The international waters.
3. And 1 and 2 above starting from a base of where the actual land boundaries in Gaza are.
Beyond this we get into murky waters, albeit – it is not Israel’s territory to superimpose itself on Gaza’s territory.
by Y. Shitglitz…“And this time in history they own everything, and everyone that matters.” What do you mean by that?
@ Y. Shitglitz, Clearly I meant, Steven Harper (Canada), the entire infrastructure of the United States of the Genetic Degenerates, Sarkozy (France), Merkel (Germany), that cow in Australia (forget her name).
Actually ask Haim Saban, he’ll be happy to tell you exactly how many whoores are actually on his payroll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlAGQUi7_3g
Here is the problem – there is a 1967 reference point – but if one goes back to 1948 – then – what does one make of my observation above? :-
” Under international law, a country does not acquire territory, by reason of victory. Thus, we are back to the 1967 borders and that is what one has to refer to in respect of the true territorial limits relative to the present application of international law.”
The Israelis know no law nor do they know how to live together with others.
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One of Freedom Flotilla II passenger boats sabotaged in Greek port
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o32Xg72FAVY&feature=player_embedded#at=19
Strength of feeling makes me wish I was a Free Palestine Movement activist on a vessel heading for Gaza – I feel so useless complaining, wishing, praying and hoping.
Thanks Mary and this:
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“Sources in the Shurat Hadin (Israel Law Center) on Sunday took responsibility for lodging an anonymous civil complaint against the American-flagged ship, The Audacity of Hope, which is a part of the flotilla expected to sail towards Gaza later this week, Army Radio reported.
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The complaint, filed to Greek harbormasters, alleged that the boat was not seaworthy and accused the organizers sailing the ship of aiding terror, according to the report. Additionally, the organization reportedly sent letters to 36 American citizens planning on sailing in the flotilla, warning them that their participation may constitute a violation of American criminal law.”
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JPost.com
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Fucking bastards!
Mark – press on – each finger helps to make a fist.
Andrew – you’re pulling out all the tropes! I could not sabotage this website more than you have in those very brief posts. You MUST be one of Suhayl’s secret agents!
How do the Jews control the infrastructure of the U.S.? Do you mean AMTRAK and toll roads? That’s news to me!
Tell me more, you racist coward!
Btw 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. Go.
Also, the Jews did not do 911. Go.
Mary: “One of Freedom Flotilla II passenger boats sabotaged in Greek port”
Finally, someone at this website actually pointed out a REAL inside job! Hahahahaha!
@ LfStL:
Yes Mossad operatives get everywhere – from Dubai to Piraeus. Sabotage just the same as last year.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/01/israel-gaza-flotilla-sabotage-suspected
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If your endless posts weren’t so pathetic they would be funny.
by Y. Shitglitz…”How do the Jews control the infrastructure of the U.S.? Do you mean AMTRAK and toll roads? That’s news to me!
No you moron, and I never said Jews- Zionists whether Christian or Jewish are the enemies of humanity. I meant the control of Congress, DOD-Office of special plans, US airforce, JINSA, AIPAC, Think Tanks etc. Of course the US MSM is controlled by the Acadians, so we’ll let that one go.
by Y. Shitgltz: “Tell me more, you racist coward! Btw 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. Go.”
Close to 40 million people died in WW2. I don’t break down humanity into tribes, only you bastards do that. Your Rabbis write books on “How to Kill Gentiles” and I am the racist.
As for 9/11….don’t know yet, but I do know about the Lavon affair, USS liberty, false flag operations killing Jews in Iraq so they flee to Israel, etc.
I will say this, I hold Marek Edelman in my heart so your insults mean nothing to me.
Tell me more about the Acadians. Are they Cajuns?
“I could not sabotage this website more than you have in those very brief posts.” Yugostiglitz
How intriguing. Thank you. Who is ‘Andrew’, btw? A fisherman? Hello, ‘Andrew’. Are you on a boat, too? Hope you catch lots of fish. If you eat enough fish, gradually you may transform into one, in the manner of the fin-folk. Be a merman and rise from the sea, cupped in a giant shell!
Enough. Feeding-time is over! I promise…
Courtney, many thanks for applying your assiduous and persistent legal brain to this matter. Mark, every little bit helps – after all, if words were not important, no-one would engage in propaganda. Cumulatively, words are extremely important – in every way, Alice Walker and Amira Hass, for example, are where they are, in the world, on those boats, because of words, because good people like you read their words and because they read the words of others, and learn.
Btw, I read that the expensive and positively counter-productive Tony Blair and Co (New album title: ‘In the Court of the Quartet King’) are decamping from an hotel to a brand-new, seven-story complex East Jerusalem. Will they have a house-warming party, one wonders, a ball for the secret policemen? Here’s a suggested title for Tony Blair’s next ‘!!No. 1 International Bestselling Book: Translated Into Fifty-Nine-and-a-Half Languages: Now a Major Motion Picture Starring Bruce Willis and K-K-K-K-King George VI!!’: ‘Mindgames in the City of God: My Time in Jerusalem (Washing my Hands of Blood)’.
Jesus wept. Indeed.
I did not know that about Bliar Suhayl. Unbelievable.
You say ‘Jesus wept’. He would surely weep if he saw what goes on daily at the Kalandia checkpoint in the annexed East Jerusalem as illustrated in this film trailer. Susan Lourenco of Machsom Watch and the producer of the film is coming to the West Surrey branch of the PSC next Tuesday to speak.
The overwhelming noise of the shouting and the clanking of metal stays with you long after the trailer ends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfMvNAlrC0Q
Update on the flotilla leaving tomorrow or Friday.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=56274
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The Free Gaza Movement, which is organising the second flotilla, said Monday that Israel’s threats will not stand in the way of the humanitarian convoy.
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“We will not be frightened by Israel, and we are going to continue. Our friends from all around the world are with us, and we are all going to Gaza,” said one of the flotilla organisers, Dror Feiler, an Israeli-born activist and musician from Sweden.
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Greece is under pressure from Israel to keep the boats from setting sail, at a time of great vulnerability for the southern European country due to the spiralling economic and political crisis.
“A Swedish ship due to join an upcoming Gaza-bound aid flotilla has been sabotaged in the Greek port of Piraeus, organisers say.
In a statement, they said “hostile divers had destroyed the propeller house and cut the propeller shaft” of the vessel Juliano on Monday”.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/06/2011628101331334709.html
Echoes of the Rainbow Warrior…
Further to Andrew and YugoStiglitz’s discussion about poisoned water supplies, I just found the following:
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“Al-Mezan Center for Human Rights said that 95% of [Gaza’s] drinking water is below World Health Organization (WHO) standards, stressing that the Israeli practices contributed to decreasing the availability of drinking water and increased level of contamination of Gaza underground water reserves.
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It reported that the Israeli authorities dug more than 26 wells along the armistice demarcation line between Israel and Gaza in an attempt to prevent the flow of ground water.
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It said that Israeli forces deliberately destroyed the infrastructure of the water sector in Gaza, targeting wells, reservoirs, ponds , the main supply lines and irrigation systems.
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As for the quality of the drinking water, the fact sheet said that the level of chloride in the water wells exceeds by eight times the WHO criteria. The nitrate concentration increased in most wells also to eight times WHO’s criteria”
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http://peakwater.org/?p=5696
Strength of feeling makes me wish I was a Free Palestine Movement activist on a vessel heading for Gaza – I feel so useless complaining, wishing, praying and hoping.
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