Denying and Suppressing the Truth 75


Off today with what seems a huge expedition to Edinburgh for the Festival – the company for Medea is about 20 people, and the scenery is, err, large (and beautiful).

No time to blog. Just to note that Hague is still pathetically claiming not to know that the Libyan “government” he recognised just murdered its own general. Meanwhile Pamela Geller has attempted to hide the evidence by deleting and editing her published encouraging correspondence with an anti-Muslim extremist in Norway who was building a secret “arms cache” – but she has been caught red-handed by another kind of cache, a web cache! See the wonderful comments under yesterday’s “Who funded Breivik” thread. Congratulations to the team!

Next post from Edinburgh, hopefully tomorrow.


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75 thoughts on “Denying and Suppressing the Truth

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  • mary

    Chilcot was just theatre and a very expensive show at that.
    http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/2890.aspx
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    I have mentioned this very nasty Sunday morning programme on BBC 1, Sunday Morning Live.
    Today’s ‘question’ is ‘Is it racist to insist that immigrants be able to speak English?’. The existing law requires this. An excuse for some pundits including the pitbull James Whale to hold forth.

  • YugoStiglitz

    Still wanting to hear of an example of a Muslim who was jailed for receiving an e-mail message.

  • Guest

    “That document you provided looks superb”
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    Suhayl Saadi, it can all be summed up by saying, it tells of the total deception, corruption and criminality of mankind. Where do we go from here is the question, or should that read, where is there to go ?. In my everyday life I see that deception, corruption and criminality are being accepted and practised on an ever increasing scale.
    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/index.php?s=ac1202fa9a9b281fac52840c36c9fe17

  • John Goss

    One of the conclusions in Guest’s depressing link to ‘our wonderful democratic system’.

    As to the new media, Reich writes that the blogosphere has proven ‘a boisterous outlet for airing views and venting frustrations, but there’s no direct or systematic link between these forums and decision makers.’(83 Robert Reich, Supercapitalism: the Battle for Democracy in the Age of Big Business, Cambridge: Ikon Books, 2008, p164).

    In essence we are stumped if we agree with this. I don’t. While we can vent our frustrations we need to belive that we can do something too. Didn’t Craig thank us all for panicking Pamela Geller, now knowing that there are possible legal actions against her not reporting a Norwegian blogger (possibly Breivig) threatened terrorism, (instead of reporting him gave him space for his mad ideas). What we can do is limited. Even if we can’t have an effect on many issues, we can at least keep one another informed. In these times that is so important.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Well said, John! Solidarity. Knowledge. They can take our everything, but they can’t take our minds. They think they can. but they can’t. We are awake. We will arise.

  • Scouse Billy

    A comprehensive history of US, CIA-lead, alliances with terrorists culminating in the present Libyan crime:
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    “At present America is in the midst of an unprecedented budget crisis, brought on in large part by its multiple wars. Nevertheless it is also on the point of several further interventions: in Yemen, Somalia, possibly Syria or Iran (where the CIA is said to be in contact with the drug-trafficking al-Qaeda offshoot Jundallah),68 and most assuredly in Libya.
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    Only the American public can stop them. But in order for the people to rise up and cry Stop! there must first be a better understanding of the dark alliances underlying America’s alleged humanitarian interventions.”
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    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25829

  • Suhayl Saadi

    “At present America is in the midst of an unprecedented budget crisis, brought on in large part by its multiple wars.” (from link kindly provided by Scouse Billy).
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    Now that is something which I’ve always mainatained, but does one ever really hear this in the MSM, that the wars are major factors bankrupting the USA/UK? The US war on Vietnam contributed significantly towards the end of the boom years; this was blamed largely on the oil producers, but in fact had begun before the 1973 Oil Crisis.
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    Yes, Guest, thanks again for that link as well – we are being asset-stripped.

  • Jaded.

    Just a small ramble. Watching ‘Sodom and Gomorrah’ again yesterday really made me laugh. You can’t beat the scene at the end where the city is being destroyed and some of the citizens are still trying to rob each other of gold. I could easily imagine the Clintons doing that if Washington ever met such a fate.

  • YugoStiglitz

    Is there any evidence of Muslim being jailed for receiving an e-mail or a post on his or her blog? I’m all ears, if you have any evidence.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Why are you so very defensive of Pamela Geller, YugoStiglitz? I wondered for a while, because Larry often decries the lunatic Right-wing in the USA and attempts to conflate them with any sort of Leftist thought in the UK. Ah, but now I get it – it’s not because Geller is a bog-standard, rabid USA Rightist – though she very much is that – it’s because she’s virulently, almost hilariously, stereotypically, pro-Israel and, because allegedly, she and her pal, Robert Spencer, make up stories constantly which they feed to the ever-eager and intriguingly mainstream media.
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    Yes, as with Breivik himself, this very dynamic, here on this blog, illustrates precisely what I was writing about yesterday, about the union, the confluence, shall one say, of Far Right racist Zionism with Far Right Xenophobic racist European Chauvinism/Nazism. A politically natural re-union, really, since one of the major streams of the former derived from the morass of the latter. Our much-valued fellow-contributor, Yugostiglitz, appears to embody that very process.
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    Thank you, YugoStiglitz, for providing a living, cyber-exemplar of a fascinating anthropological and political dynamic.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Why, then, is Pamela Geller so very afraid, why does she appear pathetically to be covering her tracks on the web? She knows she doesn’t have a moral or ethical leg to stand on. And she’s afraid of law suits from the relatives of the victims. And there are a lot of victims.
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    Since her stock-in-trade seems to have been to promote hate, fear and division by the alleged invention/distortion of news stories, perhaps it is time she and those like her accept the consequences of their actions, their words, their propaganda.
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    Now, here’s an interesting compliation relating to both Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. It makes fascinating reading.
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    http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/robert_spencer_pamela_geller_and/0018701

  • mary

    Denying and Suppressing the Truth. Exactly right in the context of the theft of Iraq’s oil.

    The secret renegotiation of BP’s Iraqi oil contracts

    During the second half of 2009, Iraq held two auctions of its largest oilfields, awarding them to multinational companies such as BP, Shell and ExxonMobil to operate under 20-year contracts. Between them the oilfields account for over 60% of Iraq’s reserves. The contracts were service contracts rather than the companies’ preferred production sharing agreements, which had been proposed for Iraq but rejected as giving too much away.

    Media reports of the auction focused on the headline remuneration fees. These sounded so low – between $1.15 and $5.50 per barrel – that many commentators questioned the profitability of the deals. But as always in oil contracts, the devil is in the detail. And whereas the auctions were billed by the Iraqi government as among the world’s most transparent contracting processes, this briefing reveals what subsequently happened behind closed doors to make the contracts much more attractive to the multinational companies, at the expense of the Iraqi people.

    The first contract awarded, for the Rumaila field in southern Iraq, was privately renegotiated between the Iraqi government and the winning BP/CNPC consortium for more than three months after the auction. PLATFORM has obtained the renegotiated Rumaila contract, and can reveal its contents for the first time. The report “From Glass Box to Smoke Filled Room – How BP secretly renegotiated its Iraqi oil contract, and how Iraqis will pay the price” looks at this contract and finds that the terms changed significantly from the published model contract on which the auction was based.

    Download the report ‘From Glass Box to Smoke Filled Room’ here.

    Download the original contract here.
    Download the leaked contract here.
    {http://blog.platformlondon.org/content/secret-renegotiation-bps-iraqi-oil-contracts)

    Observer article yesterday
    BP ‘has gained stranglehold over Iraq’ after oilfield deal is rewritten,New terms mean company will be paid even when production is disrupted, critics claim
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jul/31/bp-stranglehold-iraq-oilfield-contract

  • John Goss

    YugoStiglitz, I realise you take your pseudonym from Hugo Siglitz, killer of 9 Nazis in Tarantino’s film ‘Inglourious Basterds’. And it probably makes you feel good (revenge for the holocaust). I have always opposed apologists, (like David Irving), and believe Nazi concentration camps (like Auschwitz) and American concentration camps (like Guantanamo Bay) and the Soviet gulags to be blights on civilisation. We cannot do anything about the holocaust, or the Soviet gulags, because they are history. We can about Guantanamo Bay. And I wish you would join me in condemning the detention of people without trial.
    Your fixation with the persecution of Jews alarms me. Nearly every comment you make is the same, and with the last post you appear to have become an apologist for Pamela Geller. All the photographs I’ve seen of the character Hugo Stlgitz depict him with a gun, reminiscent of Breivig. Surely you cannot support the actual killing of people with whom you hold a different point of view. Previously I’ve refused to rise to your bait (and I suspect most people on this blog feel the same) but I have to say if all my comments related to one subject I should be worrying about my sanity.

  • dreoilin

    “Why, then, is Pamela Geller so very afraid, why does she appear pathetically to be covering her tracks on the web?”
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    Pamela Geller is claiming she removed the sentence about “stockpiling and caching weapons, ammunition and equipment” out of “sensitivity” to the victims of the Norway attacks! (And she has then re-posted the whole email):
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/clarifying-email-from-norway-edit.html
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    Almost immediately afterwards she goes on the attack again, calling the youth camp an “Antisemitic Indoctrination Training Center”
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/summer-camp-indoctrination-training-center.html

  • mary

    The NUJ strike prevents me sending a link to Hague being interviewed on Radio 4 Today. Listening to Hague I was struck at the complete absence of any statesmanlike qualities. To think he is the UK’s Foreign Secretary is breathtaking. He was not able to counter any criticism of the failed NATO policy in Libya or to sustain any arguments. He is absolutely pathetic.
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    Now he’s gunning for Syria but only in words, so far.
    Syria: William Hague says no possiblity of military intervention
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    William Hague said that military intervention in Syria is “not a remote possibility” s he called on the international community to exert stronger pressure on Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8674396/Syria-William-Hague-says-no-possiblity-of-military-intervention.html

  • ingo

    I listened to him as well Mary, like a school teacher who’s trying to score on Syria not wanting to do assembly, whilst having no answers to the Libyan crisis.

    This Libyan conflict is putting a stop to Europe’s massive plans for Concentrated solar power generation in the Magreb, once again showing how much we are playing the oil agenda. We are not interested in providing sustainable jobs and know how to the largely young populations, instead we are badly managing them by chaos and strife, siphoning out the last few resources at knock down prices, not that you would feel it at the pump.

    Iraq should nationalise all resourcdes and re tender, it is obvious that the opaque auction was subverted by BP’s lawyers, they should not podner much longer, but act up to this daylight robbery.
    I’m sure that the Chinese would pay better and throw some infrastructure development into any oil deal, as of normal.

  • ingo

    Thanks mary, so she is a failed tabloid hack who didn’t complete her university education, and who calls Obama ‘Malcom x’s lovechild’.

    malcolm x is turning in his grave, his family should sue the pants of her for that alone.

  • harpie

    Another Geller deletion:

    Glenn Greenwald Tweets:

    Any media outlet that gives air time to Pam Geller after this latest event – her picture caption alone – is disgraceful: http://is.gd/fJ4Dsg 41 minutes ago

    …linking to:

    Pam Geller Justifies Breivik’s Terror: Youth Camp Had More ‘Middle Eastern or Mixed’ Races Than ‘Pure Norwegian’; Lee Fang; 8/1/11
    http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/01/284011/pam-geller-race-mixing-breivik-right/

    Then, Adam Serwer Tweets:
    http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=AdamSerwer

    Geller has already removed the “more middle eastern or mixed” line from her post ampro.me/nexGNB

    Also related:
    The Man Behind the Anti-Shariah Movement; Andrea Elliot; NYT; 7/30/11
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/us/31shariah.html?src=me&ref=us

    […] A confluence of factors has fueled the anti-Shariah movement, most notably the controversy over the proposed Islamic center near ground zero in New York, concerns about homegrown terrorism and the rise of the Tea Party. But the campaign’s air of grass-roots spontaneity, which has been carefully promoted by advocates, shrouds its more deliberate origins.
    In fact, it is the product of an orchestrated drive that began five years ago in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, in the office of a little-known lawyer, David Yerushalmi, a 56-year-old Hasidic Jew with a history of controversial statements about race, immigration and Islam. Despite his lack of formal training in Islamic law, Mr. Yerushalmi has come to exercise a striking influence over American public discourse about Shariah. […]

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