Here is a video of Greek commandos pointing automatic weapons at the US vessel of the Gaza peace flotilla. The contriving of all authorities to attempt to prevent the flotilla from leaving is quite remarkable – including US and Greek governments. It is to me quite astonishing that we live in a world where it is now perfectly accepted by all officialdom and mainstream media that humanitarian protest should simply be stopped.
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Mike, a one state solution would also force people to get on with each other, something that has been missing since that sabra and shatila war criminal Sharon went to the mount and made his fascists points.
before his time jewish and palestinian children were goign to a school together, there was an air of progress and exchange of views and respectfull acceptance.
Only when future generations are taught to respect each other can we expect the dinosaurs and their filthy habits to die out.
To insure that guaranteed rights are part of the negotiations in future, is a Fata Morgana, a vision that might or might not be true as we can see it.
@Mike – The one-state you mention is ‘Greater Israel’, the right-wing’s goal.
A state where Jews and Arabs live together, however, is a pragmatic solution and IMO inevitable. Israel’s rulers know this and (so far successfully) prevent it by keeping the masses fearful and racist — read the slogans: ‘destruction’, ‘into the sea’, ‘off the map’ and all that. Change will come for Israel too, it’s in the air.
The Greek coastguards are still doing Israel’s dirty work. This time they have prevented the Canadian boat Tahrir from sailing.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/04/greek-coastguard-gaza-freedom-flotilla
Fudge coming up on the UN Mavi Marmara killings report.
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-turkey-scramble-to-reach-compromise-on-un-gaza-flotilla-report-1.371464
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‘A meeting is scheduled for Tuesday in New York between Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Ya’alon and senior Turkish officials. A government source in Jerusalem said the United States has been exerting heavy pressure on both sides to work out their differences by the time the report comes out Thursday.
If a compromise is not reached soon, the UN report will be released as is, and bilateral ties will likely be frozen for a long period, the source said. If a compromise is reached, the report will be reworded and toned down.’
What’s happened to Anne O’Nimmus’s (?sp.) excellent posts and links (and my responses to these)? She’d posted two links, to superb interviews/documentaries on Palestine/Israel. It all seems to have vanished! I’ve checked the other thread too – zilch! What’s going on? Am I missing something?
Mary’s responses to Anne O’Nimmus’s posts also seem to have vanished. Mary, is that correct?
All references to Miko Peled and Ronen Berelovich have been removed. Here are the links again (I’ve found one which is not linked to Atzmon’s site, btw) Only http:// preface:
topdocumentaryfilms.com/zionist-story/
topdocumentaryfilms.com/zionist-story/
I’d recommend them and please spread the info. widely.
Wrt the seeming removal of the previous posts with these links, what is going on…? Needs looked into. Is someone messing with the site?
Sorry, here’s the other one:
http://mikopeled.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/miko-peled-the-generals-son-an-interview-with-alternate-focus/
Jon, Clark, Craig, Tim, are you aware of someone tampering with the site?
Anon, Anno and Anne O’Nimmus, it’s becoming a trend! Nonetheless, the links were really good ones.
They are over on the previous thread Suhayl.
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/06/just-one-little-palestinian-story/#comments
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Perhaps though our every word and move is being monitored by the MFA and Major Avital Liebovich from Tel Aviv? I know of several people in this country who oppose Zionism who have had their computer systems put out of action.
Ah, sorry. Thanks Mary. Paranoia taking over again…
I’ve not moderated out, and it doesn’t sound like the kind of thing that would be 🙂
Thanks for that excellent link Suhayl, Miko’s accounts very much tallies what Avi Shalim wrote in ‘the Iron Wall’Israels inability to have stabel realtions with its neighbours.
Moshe Sharrat’s account also hints at resistance inside the cabinet, to this zionist cabal, but they were not as organised then.
Miko’s account of his parents early years in Palestine is laudable and harrowing.
As for posts, I had one removed yesterday and it was not rabid, so whats going on?
Link to Moshe Sharatts diary, sorry.
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/essays/rokach.html
Still not a peep from the BBC about the flotilla. An incredible omission. When it comes to neo-imperialism and geopolitics, I used to take everything from the Beeb with a pinch of salt — now I KNOW they’re essentially an arm of the state.
When Israel starts blowing ships out of the water, I doubt if they’ll be able to ignore it then. Perhaps the flotilla will, at that point, be described as a threatening invasion force which the IDF are repelling with a “reasonable” counter-response…
Bravo!
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=402528
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PARIS (AFP) — A small French pleasure craft with eight protesters on board left Greek waters overnight and set off for Gaza in an attempt to break an Israeli naval blockade, organizers said Tuesday.
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The “Dignite al Karama” is so far the only boat in a planned flotilla organized by pro-Palestinian activists to set sail from Greece, after the authorities there blocked other vessels from taking part in the protest.
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The 19-meter motor cruiser is carrying, among others, the French far-left former presidential candidate Olivier Besancenot, Green Party Euro-MP Nicole Kiil-Nielsen and trade unionist Annick Coupe.
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They expect to be off Gaza within an day or two, the group told AFP.
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“The boat was able to take on board fuel and food. It’s heading towards Gaza,” said Jean-Claude Lefort, spokesman for “A French Boat for Gaza”, the French wing of the international maritime demonstration.
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“We are going to send a delegation to the French foreign ministry to ask for protection. Depending on how that goes, we will advise on our progress,” he added. Israel has warned it will halt any vessels approaching Gaza.
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Asked how the Dignite had managed to slip past the Greek authorities, which have prevented the rest of the flotilla from leaving the Athens port of Piraeus, Lefort said: “It wasn’t spotted. It wasn’t in Piraeus, it was somewhere else.”
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On Monday, Greek forces intercepted a Canadian boat carrying more than 30 Gaza-bound activists from Canada, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland and Turkey and forced it to moor in Crete.
Woohoo! More power to the French. I also read that all 35 activists on the Canadian ship are claiming to be the captain – in an ‘I Spartacus’ moment. Good for them.
@Mary, Thanks for the post. Something very strange happened, I received the same news on my mobile phone at 1 pm, posted on my FB page, and checked on the computer… nothing??? I have been checking every since and it still does not show on my FB on my computer but it shows on my mobile phone FB page! then I tried to type the link and find the site on the computer… again nothing!!! seems very very strange..I wonder if they want to stop the news spreading and somehow interfering???
@Azra – that kind of censorship is extremely difficult to organise, in my view, and is not worth the likely exposure. This one is out of the bag anyway, so would not be worth their while even if FB would be willing to play along (and that’s doubtful).
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I would say the behaviour you’re seeing is a local or remote cache affecting your computer (or house internet) but not affecting your mobile (or mobile internet). Try clearing your computer’s internet cache, quit and restart your browser.
Some very extensive flight training goping on over the skies of East Anglia during the last hour, usually this increases when something is coming up. If there is anybody near Lincolnshire or South Yorkshire to confimr the commotio, please let us know, ta.
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Our boat’s captain is out of jail. The charges have not been dropped, but he is free to go anywhere, no bail, no restriction #flotilla2 2 hrs ago
@Jon, you will be surprised Jon, I know of one organization which their FB page was removed because the USA government do not want them there, and no they were not Al-Qaida! Freedom Flotilla FB was not accessible for quite a while this afternoon, I tried it from my work , home, and my daughter’s internet…I would not put anything and I mean anything at all pass those b…..ds
Compare the treatment of Sheikh Raed Salah and Major General Danny Rothschild Retd.IDF by Theresa May’s Home Office. Disgraceful.
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1309893271.html
As Mike says, still not a peep on the flotilla from the BBC (ZBC) yet they can instantly pen these words on the killing of two Paleatinians in Gaza in a shelling attack.
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Note the five uses of the word ‘militant’ in the short piece. btw Israelis have an ‘army’ who have ‘soldiers’.
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5 July 2011 Last updated at 15:59.
Israel forces ‘kill two militants in central Gaza
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Israeli forces have killed two Palestinians and wounded another in the central Gaza Strip, Palestinian medics and Israeli sources say.
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The incident took place near the border fence with Israel after a two-month lull in violence along the border.
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Israeli military sources said the army had targeted militants who were trying to fire rockets into Israel.
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They seem to be the first deaths since an unofficial April ceasefire between Israel and most Gaza militant groups.
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“Two people were killed and one was injured in an artillery shelling east of the al-Maghazi refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip,” emergency services spokesman Adham Abu Selmiya told the AFP news agency.
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Those who were killed are believed to be from a small militant groups sometimes called Salafist jihadis, says the BBC’s Jon Donnison in Gaza.
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Salafists did not sign up to the ceasefire but since then, Hamas – which governs in Gaza – has reined in smaller militant groups, our correspondent adds.
Israel says Turkey, Greece and Cyprus are all intentionally blocking the Gaza aid ships:
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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=turkey-helping-to-stop-flotilla-ehud-barak-2011-07-03
Azra, FaceBook is vulnerable, for instance, Alisher Uzmanov has a stake in FaceBook, 200 million US dollars, I believe, and their internal security is basically non-existent; many employees could delete anything (see link). But I think Jon’s reasoning is this: the material is either on FaceBook, or it isn’t. If you’re seeing it via one route, it is unlikely to be censorship causing you not to see it via another.
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http://therumpus.net/2010/01/conversations-about-the-internet-5-anonymous-facebook-employee/?full=yes
Incredible that four states, three of them with some of the most fearsome military machinery in the world, and all of them members of NATO, the most powerful military alliance in history, see a bunch of little boats carrying octogenarian Holocaust survivors and the like, as a threat so great they have deployed all the means at their disposal to prevent them from reaching their destination – or even reaching international waters. What a spectacle! It ought to be on daily mainstream news bulletins, just like the fall of Hosni Mubarak was on daily news bulletins. The USA, Israel, Turkey and Greece are engaged in an operation to stop a few little boats carrying octogenarian Holocaust survivors, writers and the like from sailing across the Eastern Med. Reminds me of the Tank and the Pedestrian, Beijing, 1989. Message: A few boats can scare the USA (and Israel)!! Wow. Just, wow. Next time, make it a thousand ships. We have found the face of our ‘Helen’.
Its is once again an expression of how much money, energy time and effort is transmitted for futile military options that only show you up like a fascists thug.
Israel once again acts like a Leviathan, judge juror and executioner. That NATO has become an IDF vasall, not only a tool for international arms dealers to show off their new fangled weaponry in ‘real’ conflicts, shows that they have some ties we do not know about,yet.
I’m a little late, Suhayl, dare I ask for an Assam, just over a minute strong, for a cranial up lift, with a smidgeon of milk and some grains of sugar, I’m on this diet called ‘eat half of everything….;)
“Eat half of everything” sounds a little like the agenda of the IMF right now in relation to the world(!) Oh no, sorry, that was last year; this year it’s “eat all of everything”. But no, I mean good luck with the sensible dietary measures – and an Assam it is then, ingo! Sounds delicious, the way you describe it, it’s enough to turn one into a veritable Tea Jenny (as we say in Scotland), an entity somewhat different (though there is a certain thematic overlap) from a Jean Genie. There’s a place near me, down at the end of a little cobbled street, called Tchai Ovna, where one can consume a multitude of teas in a room bearing the ambience of the Hippy Trail, circa 1972. They also hold regular literary readings there; the guy who runs it is himself a writer. It is, as Simon Simopath might’ve said, the place where Tea Jennies and Jean Genies “come together, right now, over” (and so say) all of us.