Hertfordshire Police have issued a statement on the preliminary post mortem results:
There is no evidence of third party involvement and the death is non suspicious. Further toxicology results are now awaited and there is an on-going examination of health problems identified at the post mortem.
Please note, toxicology reports can take some weeks and we cannot make any further comments at on the post mortem, including the problems at this time
If I was the family I would call in an independent pathologist quickly. We all remember the first pathology report on Ian Tomlinson. Sean Hoare may indeed have died from natural causes, though it is unusual with modern communications for someone in their forties to do that with a suddenness that precludes a call for assistance. But unfortunately, the lies police told about Jean Charles De Menezes, the far too convenient first post mortem on Ian Tomlinson, and the lack of any inquest on David Kelly, means that it is no longer possible in this country simply to accept the word of the authorities on such things.
Ruth,
re. Gareth Williams:
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Gareth_Williams
So it seems that we were wrong about the motive for killing David Kelly. It was to protect PM Cameron, not PM Blair. So we shouldn’t jump to conclusions about Sean Hoare’s death being connected to these police and media scandals. Perhaps he had found out what Tony Farrell has worked out, that there is a UK establishment conspiracy to disgrace Islam through false flag terrorism.
Many people seem to think people like Cameron and Blair are motivated by money. For myself I don’t see where owning oodles and oodles of the stuff gets anybody. Either you spend it on good causes or bad causes. My instinct is to see more than a whiff of brimstone in these machinations, to deprive the decent, law-abiding and intelligent people of the West of the blessing
and logic of Islam, and the ultimate reward of eternal life in paradise. It’s not nice being spied on, but being lied to is a lot worse.
Yet another batch of murdered Kurds has surfaced this time near the Saudi border of Iraq. 43 trenches of 300 dead. When people deal in nuclear fuel, or commit genocide, it goes beyond normality into satanism. Some commentators are saying about the Murdoch scandal, it is British society that is in the dock, or Irish society in the case of the sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.. Has our lack of spiritual sustenance left us deranged? Are they going to bump everybody with a conscience off?
I wonder if there is any cctv on his flat or car park, it looked a modern place from the press pictures and quite swish, although you can be sure it either wasnt working (lol) or has been confiscated.
However given the mans’ medical condition and relevant events coming to a head maybe a heart attack brought on by stress or excessive alcohol might not be out of the question.
The only sure way to find out is for an independent pathologist at least to be involved.
There is a “revolving door” between intelligence agencies and the police, and private security. We’ve seen that “freelancing” goes on in the police force. Likewise, just because an intelligence agent performs some action doesn’t necessarily mean it is an intelligence agency operation.
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This level of deniability is convenient for all parties. It should be outlawed, but the “security state” has been encouraging it for years.
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A similar situation has corrupted scientific research and news media.
Anno, persecution of Muslims is hyped to appear as terrorism. There is far more of this hype than there is actual terrorism, whether it be false flag or not.
Former CIA Official Robert Baer predicts that Israel Will Bomb Iran In September:
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http://politicalcorrection.org/fpmatters/201107150010
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Predictions of war on Iran have been ongoing for years. But after the “Osama bin Laden” assassination, I speculated that the timing was chosen so the US could redeploy its forces elsewhere, and shortly after, the reduction in US forces in Afghanistan was announced.
Another link to a similar message:
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http://www.truth-out.org/war-iran-us-neocons-aim-repeat-chalabi-style-swindle/1310659549
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Meanwhile, one IDF officer describes settlers’ attacks upon Palestinians as “Jewish terror”, and stated that several of the Od Yosef Chai yeshiva leaders hold views that are not “consistent with democracy”:
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-officer-yeshiva-in-west-bank-settlement-harbors-jewish-terror-and-must-be-shut-down-1.373694
Clarke – yes of course you are right on the Iran strike – time is running out.
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HANSARD 22nd June 1993 records the ‘nuke money’ £17.8 million going into Conservative coffers.
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When a young 23 year old Agent David Cameron went to South Africa in 1989 his office insisted the visit was a “fact-finding mission” when the Thatcher government was opposed to sanctions against South Africa. Cameron did the “Nuke Deal” before the regime change and raised all that money for party funds!
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After Dr David Kelly’s inspection the Oman nukes ‘disappeared’ from their containers (replaced with concrete). According to Robin Cook they arrived in Iraq to form part of the final intelligence brief leading up to the Iraq war. The Blair innermost circle knew they gone missing from Iraq end 2002/beg. 2003 – in fact transported out by ambulances to Syria where they were destroyed by Israel in 2007 by an air strike on a so called ‘nuclear installation’ – who can we trust now? – certainly not these evil monsters! Will something be done? As Suhayl tells us, ‘the whores would murder their own mothers at the drop of a hat’ and the truth will be buried for another 100ytears.
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Somehow, someway we must persevere to get Craig Murray into power – whatever it takes.
Okay, circumstantial but photographic evidence nonetheless. Amazing:
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http://tinyurl.com/3u52ekf
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Ruth, yes, I thought there was something like that wrt the Andrew Ramsay murder. Gareth Williams clearly was also murdered. If you read the book, ‘Unperson’ by Denis Lehane, it becomes very clear that the CIA (and I’m sure, SIS) have assets in all walks of life, esp. in key positions in banks and corporations. So I think your suggestions in this area hold real weight. Do you have any direct or indirect evidence linking the Williams murder specifically to financial sector issues (as opposed, say, to some foreign policy matter, etc.)? Please share. Thanks.
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You had mentioned on this blog that you personally experienced intimidation which you attributed to the security/intelligence services. Can you go into more detail? This more this kind of ‘Stasi’ (to paraphrase the excellent Roderick Russell) tactic is brought into the open, the better.
Jonangus, bet there’s a tail and cloven hooves under the table!
On viruses, it is documented fact that apartheid South Africa actively and for many years was working to create a virus that preferentially would attack African people. Apartheid South Africa was a leader in the field and worked extremely closely with their great supporters, the CIA. The CIA was an avid supporter of Apartheid in South Africa. Ian Smith’s Rhodesia also was a leader in the filed and worked closely with the CIA. The CIA was an avid supporter of racist Rhodesia. As, of course, in both cases, were the UK’s intelligence services. Think of Porton Down, and of David Kelly, again. Usual prefixes:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/110947.stm
pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sa/
The book is online:
questia.com/PM.qst;jsessionid=JM5G6p1ThLPTs4DRQ4LblQvn4Wd0hLX2cGJQTX2JWvFkq2Zy3dBt!60093048?a=o&d=114219671
The CIA, Porton Down and Apartheid South Africa (and the USSR) were – and in the former two cases, remain – leaders in the field of bacteriological warfare.
The pie man.
How about the comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFTcXK39swA
David Kelly, Sean Hoare, Christopher Shale, Gareth Williams, Bob Cryer, Hilda Murrell, Princess Diana, Andrew Ramsay: how long is the list of deaths with potential secret service involvement? Is anyone compiling it? I’ll buy a copy.
Mark,
Very kind, but I don’t actually want power!
ow did No Marbles secrete a tin of shaving foam with all those plods and the goons who work for that useless red haired Sergeant at Arms? I can see no problem with the paper plate.
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How did he release the contents without being noticed? The escape of gas and foam which must have made some noise?
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How many times did Nurse Wendi, James (with his v large pupils and his v annoying transatlantic drawl with the rising interrogative at the end of everything he said) and the old lizard rehearse that scene? She was leaping almost before it happened.
It has taken the headlines. Obscured the NHS privatisation changes announced by Lansley and the looming financial crash.
John..add Robin Cook to your list
Worse than irrelevant
Replacing Trident is against both our national interests and our international obligations
Robin Cook
The Guardian, Friday 29 July 2005 01.42 BST
Down at Aldermaston they are spending hundreds of millions of pounds of your money on a refit of the production line for nuclear warheads. We are assured this does not mean that any decision has been made to replace the Trident nuclear system. Dear me no, the investment is merely intended to keep open our options………….http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/jul/29/labour.politicalcolumnists
Robin Cooks last article for the Guardian he died on 6th August 2005
With all respect I think you are getting them the wrong way round.
Mr Hoare was unwell and unless you are saying it’s all lies he was a saint and never touched tobacco, alcohol and drugs using the three things above can create a ticking bomb. Dreolin mentions Gerry Ryan and I don’t think anyone is saying that was murder but drugs “DO” exacerbate any existing conditions. Perfectly seemingly healthy drug free people drop dead without warning. I would guess people who lead what shall we call an “alternative” chemical lifestyle do also but just more often.
When I shuffle off this mortal coil perhaps the real ale, vodka and wine will have contributed but statistically I’ll live longer than my friend who does cocaine!
Finally just one thought, isn’t it bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted to have killed Mr Hoare?
“leaders in the field of bacteriological warfare.”
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Suhayl Saadi http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2555
Mark_G,
re SouthAfrica, search for “Project Coast” & discover how MP Andrew MacKinlay could not obtain answers in parliament.
Paul
Sean Hoare death
The police statement said “unexplained but not thought to be suspicious”.
Doesn’t the fact that its unexplained make it suspicious? or what?
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To those posting examples of sudden deaths.
Craig’s words were: “it is unusual with modern communications for someone in their forties to do that with a suddenness that precludes a call for assistance”
He didn’t say it doesn’t happen – so there will be counter-cases. He merely said it is unusual – which I will accept.
Which means that further investigation is appropriate.
If this case is innocent, independent testing should confirm that.
If it isn’t, it needs to be disclosed.
Simple as that.
Lol, I think this forum has its own Avidgor Lieberman, quite entertaining…
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Microbiologists with link to race-based weapon turning up dead: http://dr-david-kelly.blogspot.com/2007/01/gordon-thomas-is-successful-author.html
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A Career In Microbiology Can Be Harmful To Your Health: http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_14_02_microbio.html
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Besides that, congratulations to Darren Clarke, well deserved win at the Open.
Suhayl Saadi
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Check out the date of that new scientist article, 17 July 2002, they must have made major advances since then.
Race-based viruses! Hah! You morons!
fromthewilderness.com! Hah! You stupid lefties at the feet of American right-wing nuts!
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Craig,
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‘Power’ is a complex evolving noun and I do not mean control and dominance; what I do mean is direction, guidance and leadership.
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You have purged yourself long ago so therefore I believe your rise is a calling, destiny. That why I am here.
@Clark, read article in today’s FPJ by John K Daly, regarding Iran openinng oil bourse… another one which was published on 6 of July, on why Iran is being targeted.. if they attack Iran, it is not due to the belief that they are going nuclear, it is becasue Ahamdinejad is the only ME leader who is not their servant. I think he is vile, but believe me he enjoys widespread support in Iran, contrary to what it is said in the western media.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/07/20/iran-opens-oil-bourse-harbinger-of-trouble-for-new-york-and-london/
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/07/06/iran-is-singled-out-because-it-defies-washington/
Murdoch’s smear campaign against Dr Andrew Wakefield and their support for Big Pharma.
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http://justmeint.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/murdoch-and-vaccines-exposure-of-murdochs-crimes-open-up-a-much-larger-story/
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Murdoch and Vaccines – Exposure of Murdoch’s Crimes Open Up A Much Larger Story
Posted on July 20, 2011 by JustMEinT Musings
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Dark, murky, slimy…. just a few words currently in use to describe the Murdoch Empire and its web of deceit. In this article other sinister and evil elements are opened up to the light. History will determine just how far-reaching and evil the Murdock web is, and how many innocent people, in different areas of life have been caught up in it.
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Azra, I quite agree, the attack of countries that move towards trading oil in currencies other than dollars is clearly a pattern.
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I posted those links not because I agree with the assessments contained, but because warnings from such people are less easily dismissed by those of certain political opinions.
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Ahmedinejad’s popularity makes sense considering the political environment within which he is embedded. Compared with the rest of Iran’s political structure, Ahmadinejad seems to be one of the more progressive elements, and also one in a position with a fair degree of power, as opposed to people who have essentially no chance of exerting influence in the foreseeable future.