The barefaced lie about Gadaffi being killed in the crossfire bodes ill for the openness, transparency and good government we can expect to see now in Libya. But today I am worrying about the effect on our society of human death as entertainment. I have never been an apologist for Gadaffi, but if his regime tortured and murdered, the remedy is not to torture and murder him – even the Nazis were given due process.
This murder is becoming the norm. It was a NATO air strike which took out Gadaffi’s escaping convoy and first wounded him. Two days ago two teenage sons of Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical US/Yemeni cleric executed without trial last week, were executed by a US drone attack as they had dinner. They were aged 16 and 19. They had committed no crime I can find alleged against them. There has been no publicity.
All this killing brings triumphalist politicians smirking on our screens. We seem to have become as dehumanised as ancient Rome. Little human pity is expressed for the way Gadaffi was killed – indeed there is notably less media reflection of pity or revulsion than there was at the (at least judicial) hanging of Saddam Hussein. Is that a measure of the descent into bloodlust barbarism in our society? The complete lack of empathy towards the traveller families being torn from their homes at Dale Farm is part of the same brutalism towards “the other”. Why don’t we go the whole way and have them eaten by lions in the ring?
History shows that bloody appetite once aroused feeds upon itself. We have already had Defence Secretary Hammond on Sky News today positing NATO action now against Syria, while the current US proto-pretext for attacking Iran – the fantasy plot against the Saudi Ambassador – is as believable as Gadaffi’s death in the crossfire.
More death is on the way, to keep the circus going. Then the crowds may not notice there is no bread – no jobs, and their earnings and income eaten up by huge state enforced transfers to the bankers, whether by bailouts or “quantitive easing”.
Quantitive Easing is the best con of all for the ruling classes. In the UK, the £225 billion of printed money to date under quantitive easing has been – every single penny – given to the bankers. Good money for bad, used to buy up the junk bonds which the bankers bought in their terrible investment decision making, and for which fake assets they had awarded themselves many, many billions in personal bonuses. They are rescued from the consequences of their disastrous judgements by the Bank of England printing (in old parlance) new, good money to buy the rubbish they invested in. The result – more rounds of huge personal bonuses for celebrating bankers!! Hooray!!! For you and I, stagflation.
30 months ago, when I explained that Q.E. was another huge transfer to the bankers and predicted it would lead to stagflation, I was widely ridiculed across the web. Now we have the stagflation and everything I predicted has come to pass.
All of which you would normally expect to make people pretty unhappy at the biggest transfer of wealth from poor to rich in history.
Quick! More War! More Militarism! More Blood! More Executions! More Victory for Democracy! Keep the Peasants Happy!
Get a Move On There! Come On!! Come On!! More Blood!! More Blood, Quick, Damn You!!
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You are not alone. On the average of the last three hours, 900 people per hour were reading this article and fifty others are at this moment reading this, invisibly alongside you. Those who understand what is happening are not given a mainstream media or political voice, but we are more than you may think. Don’t feel alone in your perception of the tricks of those who govern us, and leave a comment so we can start to feel each other’s support.
I really don’t think there’s much difference between Gadaffi and Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron, Bush, Blair, Clinton. They are all gangsters and murderers and have contempt for ordinary people, arguably Gadaffi was the best of a rotten bunch, at least compared to the other despots in the region. Is Gadaffi a worse killer than Israel’s leaders?
The idea that the west cares about the fate of ordinary Libyans is fanciful, why on earth would our leaders give a damn about them, Christ they don’t care about how their own people live!
And the bullshit about ‘democracy’ has completely lost its relevance for me. We are live in virtual one-party states, with two fanctions of the same party taking part in an empty ritual called democracy. Sure we can change the faces of our oppressors, but voting won’t change the system.
The reason Gadaffi seemed so brutal and harsh was that he was trying to create a nation, and as our own history shows so clearly, the UK wasn’t forged by consent, but by fire and conflict, welding a nation together with violence and a lot of blood. Compared to the methods used by our own monarchs Gadaffi was a mild nation builder, monarch, or dictator.
Libya wasn’t crushed because we care about its people, we don’t. What we saw was an opportunity, an opportunity to start a revolt, put a regime in power that we could do business with, and most importantly give us access to Libya’s oil reserves, a process of re-colonization. Far from gaining their freedom, whatever ‘freedom’ means, the people of Libya are now under foregin control once more, and we will never let them go again until we’ve sucked the contry dry.
Voila Ref Shirin Akiner – Wikipedia
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Shirin Akiner is a lecturer in Central Asian Studies at London University’s School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS). She produced many scholarly works, particularly on Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan, and is a member of editorial and advisory board of Journal of Central Asian and Caucasian Studies published by the U.S.A.K.
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In 2005, human rights groups, non-governmental organizations and former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, accused her of producing a biased and “propagandist” report on the Andijan massacre in Uzbekistan, which largely absolved the government of Islom Karimov of any wrongdoing. Murray called on Colin Bundy, the director of SOAS, to take action against her for allegedly promoting falsehoods, but the latter refused on the ground that Murray’s views were “unsubstantiated”.
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Fuller details here
http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=3915
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Well well. Yet another version to muddy the waters even further.
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S.A.S. troops were in Sirte and assisted in the capture of Gadaffi.
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‘British military sources have told The Sunday Telegraph that small teams of SAS soldiers on the ground in Sirte, armed but under strict orders not to get involved, had warned them throughout the siege to be alert to the fleeing of loyalists.
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Assisted by other special forces – in particular the Qataris, with whom the SAS have a long relationship dating back 20 years – the SAS tried to impress on the Libyans the need to cover all escape routes.
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But despite the advice, the breakout seems to have taken the rebels on the Zafran front completely by surprise.
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In the previous two weeks I had repeatedly seen the militiamen fail to hold forward positions at night as they fell back to their encampments. Again and again loyalists had used cover of darkness to surprise the militiamen and manoeuvre into new firing positions.
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Once more their surveillance was lax, and one rebel fighter confessed to me that in the early hours of Thursday they had failed to keep proper watch on the western front and they were surprised by the convoy.
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A Gaddafi loyalist, Jibril Abu Shnaf, who had travelled in the convoy and was later captured, told how they took advantage of this lack of co-ordination.
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“I was cooking for the other guys, when all of a sudden they came in and said: ‘Come on, we’re leaving,'” he explained.
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“I got in a civilian car and joined the end of the convoy. We tried to escape along the coast road. But we came under heavy fire, so we tried another way.”
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The second attempt proved successful and the convoy left the demolished houses of Sirte, firing at rebel positions as it sped into the surrounding farmland.
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A senior defence source has told The Sunday Telegraph that at this point the SAS urged the NTC leaders to move their troops to exits points across the city and close their stranglehold’.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8843684/Gaddafis-final-hours-Nato-and-the-SAS-helped-rebels-drive-hunted-leader-into-endgame-in-a-desert-drain.html
http://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2011/10/19/fatema-ahmed/very-generous/
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The Blavatnik School of Government
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As well as reminding us that Blavatnik is the founder and chairman of Access Industries, Oxford’s press release runs through the academic boards he sits on (Cambridge, Harvard, Tel Aviv) and outlines some of his philanthropic activity, particularly in the arts.
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There’s no mention, however, of LyondellBasell. The world’s third largest petrochemicals group was formed in 2007 when Basell Polyolefins, owned by Access Industries, bought the Lyondell Chemical Company for $12.7 billion, borrowing heavily to do so and taking on Lyondell’s existing debts. In 2009, the new company, unable to restructure $26 billion of debt, was granted Chapter 11 bankruptcy for some of its affiliates, which also protected it from European creditors. One of the banks that wrote off a £2.5 billion loan to Access was RBS, majority-owned by the UK taxpayer.
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None of this, of course, has anything to do with what David Cameron has called ‘a very generous act of philanthropy’. So what is the new school for?
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++++The Blavatnik School of Government aims to develop tomorrow’s leaders, in both the private and public sectors… It will address complex global problems in new and practical ways.++++
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The vice-chancellor points out Oxford’s track record in developing yesterday’s leaders – ‘the university has educated 26 British prime ministers and over 30 other world leaders’ – but that must have been using old and impractical methods.
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Will Mr Blavatnik have a say in the choice of undergraduates in his new ‘school’?
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PS Forbes 400 Richest Americans omit the grubbier details of Blavatnik’s acquisition of wealth. {http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/54/biz_06rich400_Leonard-Blavatnik_UP4W.html}
Our leaders are only marginally, if at all, any better than Gadaffi. They are certainly more bloodthirsty and far more destructive and contemptuous of human life across the world. In fact one can argue that they are worse then Gadaffi, far worse, because our leaders have the means, ability, desire, power to destroy entire cities and countries across the world, something Gadaffi could never do. In the grand picture he was a petty tyrant in a world run by gigantic tyrants who merely pose as democrats all the wile serving the interests of a deep-seated, vicious, global, dictatorship.
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I absolutely agree with you here,
‘The idea that the west cares about the fate of ordinary Libyans is fanciful, why on earth would our leaders give a damn about them, Christ they don’t care about how their own people live!’
But this, I’m not too sure,
‘Far from gaining their freedom, whatever ‘freedom’ means, the people of Libya are now under foregin control once more, and we will never let them go again until we’ve sucked the contry dry.’
Libyans can now freely express themselves and there have been small demonstrations against certain aspects without the TNC shooting the participants.
Surely the last years of Gaddafi’s rule showed that he’d become a creature of the West or shall we say the UK. If things don’t go their way the Libyans won’t tolerate it because family and friends will have died for nothing. Also, they know how to fight much better now. Gaddafi chucked the British and Americans out, why shouldn’t somebody else be capable of this if necessary.
‘In the grand picture he was a petty tyrant in a world run by gigantic tyrants who merely pose as democrats all the wile serving the interests of a deep-seated, vicious, global, dictatorship.’
Exactly
The Libyans did something to try and improve their lives. We’re just sitting back watching the noose tighten round our throats.
Centuries of open justice threatened by secret courts – Government rewrites judicial principles after lobbying by CIA
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/centuries-of-open-justice-threatened-by-secret-courts-2373201.html
Ruth – As you say “We’re just sitting back watching”. Elites everywhere will abuse power in their own interests; after all who wouldn’t given the chance. It’s up to the people to stop them. What we need to fight for is a free press and a free parliament, and indeed a free press would ensure a free parliament. Sadly we have anything but a free press.
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The problem is quite simple. Our secret services, MI5 / MI6, serve the establishment elites and not the nation. Once the elites have achieved that, they can exercise control and influence over the press and MPs. If anybody steps out of line he will be smeared, slandered, ostracized, threatened, framed up or more. So its hardly surprising that our parliamentarians are largely lackeys, and our press self-censored through their own cowardice.
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Look at my own story by clicking on my signature – it’s all there. Indeed I have cited several examples of where something similar has happened to others. As somebody knowledgeable of this told me – they don’t even see what’s happened to you as important since it only took them a 30 second phone call to get the process going. What is important is not just that I get justice, but that these abusive elites be brought within the law.
CanSpeccy: “The throne stands upon shit and shit stands upon the throne, to use a variant of Angrysoba’s excellent misquotation of Nietzsche.
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I did not misquote Nietzsche or attempt to quote him at all.
Mark Golding: Gordon, is this a hunch or have you a source? I have a suspicion because during a 20 min discussion I had with Robin Cook PBUH I felt he was extremely frightened. He off-loaded much information, much I cannot divulge.
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For what reason can you not divulge this information?
Hajj Dawud: “America” is not the architect, but the pawn. (Or rook, knight, bishop and queen if you prefer.) This “divine” plan was devised and contracted three thousand years ago, for a term that has actually expired. We’re watching the consolidation of what the other contracting party bought in their bargain with the devil.
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Yet another retread of the tedious Satanic-Jew conspiracy theory dressed up in mealy-mouthed mystical language.
“Don’t feel alone in your perception of the tricks of those who govern us, and leave a comment so we can start to feel each other’s support.”
Craig…Thank your for the invitation. I’m a long-time lurker, never commenting, but always absorbing the things I know little or nothing about (you’re on my blog-roll so I’m able to keep current). I don’t always agree with you, but I do respect your opinions, simply because you, at least, can explain and support your positions. “Feeling each other’s support,” I think, is an absolute necessity in these times of aggresive, allegedly civilized “leaders” (and I use that word very loosely) – “tilting at windmills.”
“This murder is becoming the norm.”
I agree. What is even more unpalatable, is the huge number of “the people,” (in the US for sure) co-sign every bit of it – never having set foot in, nor bothered to learn anything about, the countries that wear the US footprint on their necks.
I wanted to share a video on Quantitave Easing here in America that I think you and your readers might find, both interesting in it’s similarity to the UK, AND most entertaining!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k&feature=player_embedded
Appreciate your insight…(back to lurking)
I thought Hajj Dawud’s Lore was Islamic, poetic.. “the fire or the garden” … An S-J angle never occured to me, i dont believe it, but there might be a few spooky links around elsewhere! Must be halloween, or the apocalypse.
but loads of great reads from diverse and thoughtful commentors, fine folks!
@Deb – The animated conversation on quantitative easing was good, I liked “is this an episode of the twilight zone?” That’s a catchy punchline these days.
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If the MOD said they were unaware of the location of Gaddafi, they definitely knew precisely where he was. They knew which car to fire on although they may not have known his eventual exit route.
Of course Libya was overflowing with SAS, because same rule applies, whatever they say believe the opposite. They said they would not put troops on the ground. Craig has previously confirmed the normality of lying about these things.
What I think most people suspect, but have no proof of, is that the commanders of the NTC, Taliban, Al-Shabab, and all other so-called Al-Qaida operations are living it up in London, collaborating with UK and US intelligence, and being used to direct operations where there has to be someone who the minions believe.
The strategy of the UK has always been to divide and rule. They work with former members of Gaddafi’s regime as well as with so-called Islamists. The resulting divisions, sectarian, tribal, ideological etc, they don’t give a damn about the causes which divide mankind, are what enables them to carve up the assets while the different parties are arguing among themselves.
When I say that whole villages in Afghanistan, Kurdistan, Libya have had their throats cut by mad mullah Islamists, most of the people giving the orders are living in London, working for London, and bringing up their children and multiple wives in London, while the ordinary Muslims sweat it out on the battleground.
As to Gaddafi’s death, the guys in London have made it a condition of their collaboration that it doesn’t end in a trial where the dictator or anyone else can spill the beans against themselves.
That’s why the UN has set up an enquiry into it, to tell the lie
that Gaddafi was not intentionally killed after being caught.
I sometimes wonder whether you lot met any Muslims. They are as devious, unscrupulous , greedy, and ruthless as the Zionists who they collaborate with. Except the ordinary ones who are just in it for the gold. Their mullahs are freemasons, their leaders are psychopaths and their motive for being in the UK is to run it for themselves.
There are some sincere Muslims here, but most of them leave their faith back at the airport when they get on the plane.
Islam is the truth, but not easy to find.
angrysoba wrote: Yet another retread of the tedious Satanic-Jew conspiracy theory dressed up in mealy-mouthed mystical language.
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Deuteronomy 28:15 says “But it shall come to pass if” … something happens. Read through to verse 68 ~ to the end of Chapter 28 ~ and tell us whether these things have come to pass. If so, then the “something” happened. Is it more worthwhile to examine it, lest we follow it, or to deny it and risk making the same mistakes?
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But you miss an important point. I support Israel’s dominion over what they bargained for, paid the price, and bought. As a muslim, I am required to defend their right to it, and I do. I also support Christian dominion over what God gave Abraham for Isaac as an everlasting distinction to match the everlasting distinction God had already given Abraham for Ishmael. All of the families of the earth are heirs of Abraham, not just one, and here in America most of the people “abide in the tents of Shem” ~ Judaism, Christianity, and Islam ~ and raise no claims to exclusive dominion.
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You can read what I’ve written in the Christian Sojourners’ forums at blog.sojo.net as “Ankaboot,” encouraging them to elect the devoted to Congress and the State legislatures, which is the domain they inherit from Abraham ~ not for dominion, but for effective administration of America’s promises of “liberty and justice for all” that have been long since abandoned. My comments at Sojo fill roughly 800 pages in print, it shouldn’t take you more than a couple of weeks. It should give you a new perspective on “Proclaim Liberty throughout the land.”
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All cooperative endeavor is “conspiracy.” Some work in beneficial directions, some others work against themselves without realizing that until it’s too late. “Politics” is nothing more than the reconciliation of conspiracies. The so-called “Tea Party” is essentially a conspiracy to retain independent possession of a bird in the hand, which they have a natural right to do; the so-called “Occupy Wall Street” protest is essentially a conspiracy to gain possession of at least one of the two in the bush, which they have a natural right to do. Democracy is conspiracy; Judaism, Christianity and Islam are conspiracies; oligarchic plutocracy is conspiracy; preservation of a cultural or ethnic heritage or the commonwealth of either is conspiracy; any aggregate society is a mass of conspiracies. Not all conspiracies are “out to get you” ~ you actually benefit from most conspiracies that you never imagined yourself joining.
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So you can take your “anti-Semite” jacket and wear it, it doesn’t fit me. The Bible records history, whether already past or yet to come, and some people swear by it and others swear at it. You mention of a “tedious Satanic-Jew conspiracy theory” is swearing at it: it’s in the record, and indelible. See Isaiah 28:14-18, speaking of a people who have long since passed away …
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Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, you scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Because you have said “We have made a covenant with death, and with Hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come to us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves.”
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… as the following verses foretell. They fulfilled their covenant with death, and God fulfilled His. It’s history ~ they reaped what they had sown.
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And today have inherited their dominion, which muslims are charged to honor, protect, and defend.
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That’s why Jews fleeing the Reconquista and the Inquisition in Spain went to the muslim lands, where the greatest of their luminaries, Moses Maimonides, known as “Rambam,” wrote the definitive commentaries of the Talmud while serving as a noble in the courts of muslim Egypt.
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Perhaps you should think twice before publishing a blood libel against a stranger.
Hajj Dawud, perhaps you can put my mind at ease with some explanation of these terms:
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A nice summation except for one small point ~ “America” is not the architect, but the pawn. (Or rook, knight, bishop and queen if you prefer.) This “divine” plan was devised and contracted three thousand years ago, for a term that has actually expired. We’re watching the consolidation of what the other contracting party bought in their bargain with the devil.
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But as with any such bargain, what they imagined they were buying is not what they will actually get. A melting pot of goy beans ready to serve is not something one should put in a pressure cooker. The resulting explosion can have unintended consequences.
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Who or what is “the other contracting party” that made a pact with the devil?
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What is “a melting pot of goy beans”?
@ Crab…When I first saw it, I thought, “How much simpler can this be made? They’re just, as Craig said – “printing new money as needed!” Twilight Zone indeed…
angrysoba writes: Hajj Dawud, perhaps you can put my mind at ease with some explanation of these terms:
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I can’t put your mind at ease, only God can do that ~ although it’s not uncommon for people to find peace of mind in a realization that the concerns they suffer are actually of no real personal concern to them.
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The antisemitism that concerns you is found first in Deuteronomy 28:15-68, as part and parcel with the Covenant ~ the bargain ~ that the Children of Israel made with God, which some of them broke. That’s the origin of all despite of “The Jews” ~ the irretrievably broken promise, broken by those Isaiah called “you scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.” Not you, nor I, nor anyone else can do anything about this antisemitism except avoid it ourselves ~ only Jewish people can deflect it away from themselves, and most do.
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Were you to know the promise that was broken, and how it was broken, and the effect on all of humanity of breaking that promise, and why it’s too late to turn back to it, you would realize that your only concern about antisemitism is to avoid it yourself, entirely, and leave it absolutely to those who condemn themselves by being antisemitic.
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and as for “explanation,” my latest comment here before this one is explanatory. Those who are turning up the heat on the American people know exactly what I’m talking about, and you certainly have the intelligence to figure it out from what I’ve already written.
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Thank you for your reply.
Very important useful knowledge about psychology in relation to Gaddafi not speaking to Craig.
You see, apart from those are rightfully mixed-up because they were cross-taboo-ed i.e.sexually abused, there are two types of people, according to an eminent Jewish psychologist called Freud.
Firstly those whose mothers praised them and rewarded them for sitting on the potty and producing wonderful specimins. This group open their hearts with love to all mankind. The second group were scolded by their mothers while they worked hard to make something to please them. This group, pained by this rejection, closed their hearts to humanity, and just as they had retained their specimins, retain the secrets of their hearts.
Knowledge is power. Our society is run by knowledge.
For Uzbek, irony is when your mum ignores you while ironing the clothes.
Personally, I find the online public gloating over the corpse of Gaddafi sickening. One understands the anger and so on. But I think it demeans us all. This whole imagery of men in suburban sitting-rooms chanting, “Allah O Akbar” as they kill people/ laugh and gesticulate for the camera over a fly-swarmed corpse. It’s sickening. Okay, you’ve killed the dictator. Now get on with running your country.
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When this uprising began, and when Gaddafi was threatening to level Benghazi, I predicted (on Facebook, I think) that one day Gaddafi would ‘die like a dog in the gutter’. Well, he did.
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The possible moral of the story? Be careful what you wish for.
Hajj Dawud, while you are correct in saying that many Jewish people fled the Reconquista (and persecution by Christians) in Spain and settled in North Africa/the Ottoman Empire and were actively welcomed by the Ottomans – the Ottoman Sultan commented that the King of Spain was losing his most talented people – Ibn Maymun (Moses Maimonedes actually moved around Al Andalus and Morocco and then ended up in Cairo as a result of him trying to avoid the Almohads, who had conquered southern Spain and were persecuting Jews.
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But why on earth are we taking about Jews, the Bible, etc. on this thread about Gaddafi?
Wait for the next false flag. US ‘troops’ are already in Uganda as we know.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-22/u-s-warns-of-imminent-threat-of-terrorist-attack-in-kenya.html
Suhayl Saadi: Personally, I find the online public gloating over the corpse of Gaddafi sickening. One understands the anger and so on. But I think it demeans us all.
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I completely agree. It’s absolutely disgusting.
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Peter Hitchens has also chimed in with essentially the same sentiments:
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Colonel Gaddafi was cruelly murdered by a mob. This disgusting episode, which no decent person can approve of, is typical of the sordid revolution which our Government has decided to endorse and aid.
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Nearly as bad, most of our media reported the barbaric spectacle in gleeful tones. God preserve them from ever being at the mercy of a lynch mob themselves is all I can say.
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But, he also said something else a bit interesting, as it echoed another conversation which we had here:
I am pleased to say that a planned march against immigration in Boston, Lincolnshire, has been called off. The organisers rightly feared that it would be taken over by sinister and creepy factions.
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It occurs to me – though of course it isn’t true – that if MI5 wanted to discredit any honest movement against mass immigration, the cleverest thing it could do would be to set up something called, say, the ‘British Patriotic Party’, and staff it with Jew-haters, racialists and Holocaust deniers.
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And then these people could latch on to every decent protest and wreck it.
Thanks for that message at the end of that article. In my circle of very well educated friends, very few if any ever seem to give a damn or even have knowledge of what’s happening. Admittedly, I have the luxury of time to read and observe and piece together the real story, I just hope that I can point people in the right direction and every once in a while they’ll ask me to explain what’s happening.
Unfortunately since this is an comments section on the internet, some vicious anti-semitism anti-muslim anti-whatever bigotry might get dumped on this webpage.
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Here is some for you to put into your pipe and smoke it.
The UK and others are known to have sent Muslims to redition by Gaddafi in Libya. So he was a witness to that, and maybe he thought that would offer him some security.
But NATO made a pact with so-called Al Qaida Afghanistan trained so-called Muslims, to arm them to do their dirty work on the ground for them, despite the presence of SAS forces in the area.
It has already been pointed out that in Arab tribes there is a culture of revenge. So by bombing Gaddafi’s car to prevent his escape from the NTC National Terrorist Council, NATO knew that he would be summarily executed on capture.
Who did this, Muslims who regard themselves as at the top of Islamic knowledge and guidance. if they are so rightly guided, why did they get conned into silencing gaddafi about the crimes which this country has committed against them by proxy?
Do they have some other collaborations to hide? Undoubtedly they do. We are just scratching at the surface of the collusion between the controlling tentacles of Western power and the controlling tentacles of Islamic power.
There are now two parties in the world, the party of conscience including all people of integrity from all religions, and the party of controlling power, including all political malignant controllers from Islam, Zionism, Toryism, Socialism etc.
I am with the former, however much the manipulating liars detest our clean hearts. sometimes the pressure of lies, spying, violence and corruption makes you do things which are against your own principles. We are all human. But the conspiracy of controlling powers only relish their breaking of the rules.
It inspires them to commit more inhumanity when their confederation of violence and suppression of truth succeeds.
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Ok, here is some for you to put it in your pipe and smoke it.
It is well known that this country has used Gaddafi for rendition for a number of years and he is a witness to these dealings.
That may have given him a false sense of security. NATO got round this problem by inviting the so-called AlQaida Libyan resistance groups trained in Afghanistan to do their dirty work for them, even though they had many SAS troops illegally on the ground.
They knew that within Arab tribal culture, if they hit Gaddafi’s motorcade within range of Sirte, the militia would exact tribal revenge. Who did this? The self-appointed leaders of the Islamic world with the most to benefit from the proxy persecution of Muslims’ exposure.
Maybe they had other collusions with NATO they wanted to hide.
The whole farce of the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars complete with
false-flag terrorism and fake democracy. There are now two parties in the world. The first consisting of the controlling, manipulating, lying spying political people,from the Muslims, NATO, Zio, Bio, whitewash party. The second consisting of the clean-hearted people of conscience from all religions or persuasions. This latest war has made the choice crystal clear.
I went to a Muslim area of Manila yesterday on business, and the dealer I like best and have known for several years had a go at me about the NATO intervention in Libya.
“You have such economic problems”, Hainee told me, presumably viewing me as a representative of “The West”, “and yet somehow you find the money for war and war and more war, billions of Euros, and then killing all those people just to get at one man who was dead already. What for?”
I respect Hainee. She is much younger than myself, and suffers from diabetes and a host of ther connected problems, but is one of the most cheerful dealers I have dealt with – frank, honest and informative. We have done some good business together.
She wears cover-all Muslim dress and covers her head, but not a face veil. (I don’t deal with the face-veilers out of principle – years of bargaining in the Middle East and the Far East have taught me how to read a lot from the expressions of vendors, and I have no desire to put myself at a disadvantage.)
She is also a higly intelligent young woman, as previous conversations with her had demonstrated.
Her main point, after the economic one, was the shameful spectacle of Gadhafi broadcast around the world at his most vulnerable and dead.
“Why was it necessary to show all the details?” she asked, and it is a good question that others have been asking too.
Just a snapshot of how this latest escapade is viewed by others.