A week late, but the mainstream media has finally learnt (not least through my telling them) that it was the Mossad link that was really worrying Whitehall about Fox.
And I have an article in the Mail on Sunday.
The Indie on Sunday story of a Fox-Israel plot against Iran is a great deal more credible than Obama’s announcement of a plot by Iranian used car salesmen to employ the Canadian Mounties to assassinate Justin Timberlake outside the Won-Ton Chinese restaurant in Champaign-Urbana (I may have got some of the details of Obama’s fantasy wrong, but what’s the difference?)
It is now absolutely essential that Matthew Gould. British Ambassador to Israel, answers the questions I have put to him.
Excellent work.
…..but why call Fox and Werrity “useful idiots” in your Mail article?
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-liam-fox-is-not-a-useful-idiot.html
The reason the Israelis denounce Ahmedinejad’s regime is because they want it obliterated as a competitor and as an obstacle to their ambitions. The recent US ‘terror plot’ by Iran is scary because although the story itself is laughable it might well mean that an attack on Iran nuclear facilities has now been given the go-ahead by Washington. It is hard to imagine a more terrifying development.
Whatever you think of the Iranian policy of gays right now any sensible person will be lobbying everyone they can to ensure no such attack on Iran is allowed to take place.
Not under any circumstances.
By the way, as another poster has said, abhorrence of the reality of 200,000 or so UK abortions per year should not make a person indifferent to the fate of this society as a whole.
We must speak up for Iran over here in the UK.
When was the last time THEY invaded a foreign country?
There are real dangers to the living world out there but we will find the criminals that need to be dealt with much closer to home……like right within the apparatus of our own government.
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:5
Vronsky, “What to do?” – I’m not sure that we can do anything as such, apart from what we’re doing already, ie reading, posting links, solving the jigsaw, increasing awareness, building consensus. The public mood will slowly change, or not, as the case may be. Momentum seems to be increasing, globally.
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More protests are planned for November 9th. The students will be marching to The City, not to Parliament Square.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/19/students-education-public-service
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http://anticuts.com/
In the US, unions are starting to support the Occupy Wall Street protest. Targeting the financial sector has resulted in a rash of disinformation and agents provocateurs.
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http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/10/05/336880/video-corporate-media-protests/
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http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/10/10/339862/paul-singer-vulture-capitalist-journalists/
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The lesson? Direct the protests at finance, where the power lies, and keep highlighting the links between politicians and Big Money.
Canspeccy
Singing from the wrong hymn sheet can result in being ignored.
No problem. Starting from the top, one two. ‘ O God our help in ages past, when we called all the shots, defend us with our sinking masts, I hope the bastard rots. Amen ‘
This is not about Fox, Iran, Libya, Africa, Turkey or Syria.
Just as Obama is taking a little holiday from being seen to be totally under the control of the Israeli lobby, so the UK has to make a little show of being in charge of its own destiny from time to time.
I know you can’t really accuse the owner of the blog of trolling, but the UK establishment is flexing its miniscule muscles by leaking a dreadful secret of treasonable proportions that Ministers sometimes get waylaid by Mossad lobbyists to an anti-establishment blog. It’s insulting to the intelligence.
After you’ve trod in it, how do you get the dog-poo off your shoes?
Good catch with the Atzmon piece, Kevin.
“Fox and Werritty were not ‘useful idiots’ – individuals who seem to naively support a foreign ideology or thought but in practice are cynically used by a foreign power. They knew exactly what they were doing and who they were aiding. Fox, who In 2006 said, “Israel’s enemies are our enemies and this is a battle in which we all stand together or we will all fall divided.” is a strong supporter of Israel and is a member of Conservative Friends of Israel. Fox also supported the illegal war against Iraq, a war regarded by many as just another Israeli war but fought by American and British soldiers and in 2003 he voted for the invasion of Iraq. He also supports action against Iran.
So Fox and Werritty were not naïve. They knew exactly what they were doing and who were their donors. They fully understood their role and willingly did what was required.”
Worth considering, but maybe time will tell.
Don’t you just love Americans:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCRnkamitVk
Ending the day with the memory of seeing the hypocrite Obama, currently waging eight wars according to Stop The War Coalition’s newsletter, singing ‘We Shall Overcome’ at the unveiling of a memorial to Martin Luther King.
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The statue was made in China incidentally. A nation of 300 million people apparently have nobody with the skill and the soul to create such a work of art. Killing and destroying is their skillset.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/16/thousands-attend-mlk-memorial-dedication/?page=1&utm_medium=RSS&utm_source=RSS_Feed
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There’s another element of the Fox story which I haven’t seen mentioned.
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Luke Coffey, Fox’s official SpAd:
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https://hotterthanapileofcurry.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/liam-fox-adam-werrity-but-no-mention-of-luke-coffey-cia-agent-with-access-all-areas-pass-at-the-mod/
“Vronsky, “What to do?” – I’m not sure that we can do anything as such, apart from what we’re doing already, ie reading, posting links, solving the jigsaw, increasing awareness, building consensus. The public mood will slowly change, or not, as the case may be. Momentum seems to be increasing, globally.”
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A stark reminder thank-you Clark
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There is something else to do, well two things at a push; we can support the majority of foot-soldiers, the ‘Occupy Britain’ group of students, graduates, young employed activists and people like you and me and Uncle Tom Cobley and all considering the extent of the 99 percent. They need us.
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Please listen to my friend Alison here if you have time:
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http://www.uk-collapse.com/
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Being ‘collapse-ready’ is good thinking – Be Prepared or BP which ever way you look at it.
I remember Liam Fox saying in a talk to us 1st Year Glasgow University Medical Students, around 1979/1980, “If you don’t take part, you wont get on” – yes, how wonderfully ironic that sounds now, Liam, eh?
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So, is this engineering of the downfall of the odious ‘Doctor Liam Fox’ the product of an internal power struggle within the security and intelligence services? Remember that some months ago, an attempt was made to bring down Hague using the issue of an ‘assistant’. I mean, I’m very pleased that Fox – a hero, it seems, of the equally odious Con Coughlin of the Daily Telegraph – is gone (to both the back benches and possibly also those multiple, revolving-door ‘Defence’ Industry directorships?) and that this whole thing is being (one hopes) exposed (as well as covered-up). All congratulations to Craig, absolutely. I just wonder why precisely (apart from Oborne – that may been enough, of course) was Craig allowed onto BBC Radio 4 after so many years of being barred and whence, and why, exactly did Craig’s mole emerge?
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One gets the sense, does one not, that there is more to this than meets the eye.
Craig
this week you’ve been on BBC radio, and had an article in the mail on sunday
All this only a few weeks after rejoining the SNP
Don’t fall for it, they are trying to change your course.
Saor Alba
Nice one Dude. Spidersense on fire! Cheers
Richard Norton-Taylor, of The Guardian, is also reported to be very close to the intelligence services. So if stuff is appearing by him in the MSM, it may be another sign that a faction within those services has been responsible for this rapid exit of a Govt minister who until a few days ago, seemed impregnable, unstoppable and almost blessed with covert approval.
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Clydebuilt, re. the SNP, I don’t think it’s that. I think it’s something else – see my earlier post, just above yours.
‘One gets the sense, does one not, that there is more to this than meets the eye.’
If Craig was putting out the Mossad connection then the intelligence services may well have wanted to use this to hide the real scenario.
The intelligence services being responsible for the security of the UK would surely have monitored the Minister of Defence and have known exactly what he was getting up to. I know that others using funds procured through illicit dealings of the intelligence services are kept under surveillance in setting up companies and making investments. In my opinion Werrity belongs to MI6 or he’s one of their appendages that gets a cut.
Craig,
Your courage is amazing. What you have done here is phenomenal, and equally important to your stand against torture.
Over the last few weeks, the entire world seems to have reached a tipping point, in the right direction.
Now it seems that Good is actually beating Evil, and the demons are on the run.
Thank You,
You are a Hero.
Tony
Well said Tony – I guess we have truly missed you.
‘here’s another element of the Fox story which I haven’t seen mentioned.
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Luke Coffey, Fox’s official SpAd:’
Herbie- Coffey’s role appears to have official sanction, but Werritty has no credentials whatsoever, other than his personal connection to Fox.
Great work from Craig this past week- let’s keep the bastards on the back foot.
Mark,
I Resigned from here, cos Craig had better things to do than moderate me dumping my guts, and I was never much good at singing in the choir. I thought I would dump my guts in America instead, as writing Hebrew via Google translate is a pain.
Good to see that Vronsky can still cut through extremely hard turds as if they were as soft as shit, and still come out looking by far the most intelligent poster here.
Sure, I miss you Guys Too – especially The Irish Girl – I will remember her name a second after I hit the Submit Comment
dreolin?
I will leave you in peace now
Tony
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Correction Craig:
It was the EXPOSED Mossad link that was really worrying Whitehall about Fox.
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@Suhayl
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What encouraged me most about Craig’s success was the apparent discovery that there will still some people of conscience working in government. You’ve gone and spoiled that. Back to my pessimism.
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I’d like all to give more thought to English separatism. A though experiment: what would scare the establisment most: a long-running occupation of Whatever Street in protest at globalisation/the bankers/capitalism, or the secession of Cornwall from the Union? In which cause would it be easier to create a political party standing in opposition to the Indivisible Trinity of Lab/Lib/Con?
Saor Alba….eh, Clydebank?
What’s the Saxon for “Free England”?
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Vronsky, it’s not mutually exclusive. There are many decent people working in the state, but there are also likely to be internecine struggles, esp. if foreign powers are involved; the murder of Gareth Williams may have the outcome of one such war (who knows?). These matters are often extremely complex.
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The Establishment would only be scared by a strategic, united/popular mass (millions), militant, long-running active struggle not confined to a single geographical location, involving primarily the working and lower middle classes in which the generators of both energy and wealth were under threat of being closed-down for significant periods. Then they would send in the Army. If Cornwall were seceding, they’d simply send in the clowns.
Mr Murray, with or without your mobile telephone, you really are passing on garbage of the first order here, indeed I have little doubt that after a moment’s careful reflection you’d agree. (On its face: contrary to your assertion, the Cabinet Secretary’s investigations really do not seem to have been a cover-up.) Stick to the Burnes and don’t encourage these potty people.
Joe,
As the results of GOD’s investigation are not out yet, how do you know how much of a cover-up it is? It will limit itself to the cash for access question, and woon’t go in to the working for other countries question.
http://www.thinkorbeeaten.blogspot.com
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Aug 06, 2011,
“If you want to find the real radical true believers, the real plotters of government takeovers, the real bomb setting terrorists, the real haters of our freedom, the real killers of countless innocent people, then you’ll need to look away from all of the usual places. It’s not the Muslims. It’s not the Christians. It’s not the Jews. It’s not any organized religion that you’re aware of, yet it is the most powerful religion in the world. It is the religion of Doing Business.”
In a nutshell.