Mikel and Nina Malyshev were deported back to Uzbekistan on Friday evening. At 6am Saturday morning they telephoned relatives and said that they were met in Tashkent at the plane steps by a representative of the British Embassy, who escorted them from the airport, bypassing passport control and security checks. They were about to be put on a bus to their former home in Zarafshan.
But they never arrived in Zarafshan and there has been no word of them since. The British Embassy say categorically they did not send any representative to meet the plane. That fake British Embassy representative was almost certainly from the Uzbek security services.
I gave written evidence to their asylum appeal stating that any returned asylum seeker would be picked up by the security services at the airport and be in extreme danger. The Home Office told the court this was not true and there were no human rights problems in Uzbekistan. The court accepted the Home Office view.
Having callously deported the Malyshevs to join the lists of the “disappeared” in Uzbekistan, the British government now repudiates any further interest in their fate. The British Embassy in Tashkent has told their relatives in Wales that they are Uzbeks in Uzbekistan and not their responsibility.
The truth is the British government knew perfectly well what would happen to the Malyshevs, and was lying to the court in saying that this would not happen. The coldblooded brutality of the government’s behaviour is stunning. President Karimov’s support for NATO operations in Afghanistan is placed at a far higher value than human life.
Interesting Wendy, the ‘death squads’ in Iraq are well documented and Iranian intelligence suggests, as you say, are active in Syria.
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I quote Michel Chossudovsky who spent two months in Syria:
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“I think this is really part of the public relations campaign to demonize the Syrian government without addressing the fundamental causes of the crisis,” he stated. “This is not a peaceful protest movement. It is an armed insurrection by gunmen, well-organized mercenaries and it is confirmed not only by government sources. Let’s examine: Israeli and Lebanese sources say the protesters have heavy machine guns…Since when are peaceful civilian protesters armed with heavy machine guns?… And I think the United Nations decided to remove its non-essential staff essentially as a prelude to further sessions at the UN Security Council.”
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My Intelligence confirms the NATO strike on Syria will be the pre-cursor to war with Iran. Iran will back Syria in this fight and I know Iranian fighter pilots will be in the skies above Syria when NATO starts ‘protecting civilians’ under threat of attack , enforcing an arms embargo and maintaining a no-fly zone. We can expect another massive confrontation and riight now military think-tanks are weighing the tactical response from Russia and China and the threat from world-wide Muslim outcry.
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I have reported here the British warship HMS Iron Duke, patrolling the waters off Bahrain has reported an increase or spike in incidents involving Iranian craft. Navy Commander Joshua Himes insists this will spark a war with Iran. He would. The whole scenario of the Quds Force assassination plot is a ploy, a deception to the real plan.
Aralan, yes, I agree entirely.
“President Karimov’s support for NATO operations in Afghanistan is placed at a far higher value than human life.”
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Well, DUH. We’ll let them keep killing people as long as they continue to help us to kill other people. What makes you think anybody involved places any value whatsoever on human life?
“Uzbekistan’s people are locked in.”
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But can you not be explicit about the implications?
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Are you saying that merely by leaving the country an Uzbek automatically becomes a bona fide refugee because, should they return, they will be subject to cruel or unusual punishment?
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If that is the case, then Europe faces a difficult situation. It could be obliged to accept the entire population of Uzbekistan, should the people make their escape.
Thanks once agai8n Uzbek in the UK and Mark G. The attack to come will tease Turkey something rotten, would you agree? Its common agreement with Iran regards the PKK makes one believe that Erdogan will be sitting on a burning fence.
Canspeccy,
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I am asking you again whether it is not BAD enough for you that Malyshevs who have been forced to return to Uzbekistan with assurance that they will be safe there have now disappeared? What else do you need? Malyshevs might still be alive but there are also thousands that have been killed by the regime or tortured to death. There are also thousands who are currently in prison including Jaslyk.
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As for Malyshevs I can guarantee you that you will not see them in the UK anymore. They will not be granted exit visa in any feasible future and even if they are allowed out of prison or detention centre they will be constantly monitored.
Uzbek,
“. Forcibly changing regime in such a weak state like Uzbekistan is a big risk that might lead to further spread of militant Islam and this will make everyone (China, Russia, EU,US) nuts.”
– amazing, i read it somewhere similar idea from official report of uzbek authorities. You are supporting what exactly uzbek regime is frightening the west by telling tales about so called militant islam. Do you understand what you are saying? You are literally supporting your bloody regime by saying there is no other way. Let people choose which way to live. Its not your business to tell people which way to live. Thats what democracy is- people make decisions on free elections. You sound to me like a disguised agent of Karimov’s intelligence services.
What is that what he said?
We need to change the regime there. It is clear, the people there will chose what you call Militant Islam as an inspiration to their rule.
But guess what?
That is their right.
Not yours.
You might want some sort of secular democracy inspired socialism in your own country.
But tough.
Uzbekistan is their country. So it is their choice what they rule by.
Some in the west, and the Zionists see that as an excuse to prop up the Zionist Karimov’s rule. And aid his torture, by sending him people to torture.
And the Zionists claim, “we don’t agree with his torture, murders, rapes and slavery, we just support it because we have no choice, we do it because we hate Islam, Uzbeks are Muslims, so that is the way to keep Muslims in check and prevent them from ruling by Islam”
They use the enemy of my enemy excuse.
I think people against Karimov should use the same excuse, and unite against people you disagree agree with against oppression.
Uzbeks do not need to submit to your Western ways, and rule by youragree to rule by your Western laws for you to help them.
So help the people Karimov and the Zionists call militant Islam against oppression, the Zionists and Karimov.
The three are one and the one is three.
Antidespot,
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One should be extremely stupid or naive to turn Uzbekistan or at least parts of it into Afghanistan. And believe me there are certain opportunities in Uzbekistan or at least in parts of it to become Afghanistan. I would probably be the last person on earth to support what Karimov and his dogs are saying when brainwashing Uzbekistanis and others but as it stands now Uzbekistan is ONE man state. Every aspect of social, economic, cultural, religious life etc are under Karimov’s authority. There are no institutions (like parliament or even Cabinet of Ministers) that could replace him but those which have real power like SNB or Ministry of Interior. Even army is not as powerful in Uzbekistan as security services.
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Of course it is for Uzbek people to choose what to do and how to live but although I would very much like for Karimov to disappear in history (or in desert) I am saying that forcible change of regime (something that was done in Iraq) is a big risk. Uzbekistan is in the middle of potentially very troublesome region and Karimov has greatly contributed to further weakening of Uzbek state by his social and economic policy and constant repressions of secular opposition. And if you think that forcibly removing Karimov suddenly brings democracy to Uzbekistan you are very much confused in your thoughts. It is not only to having absolute no historic experience of freedom for Central Asian population but that after the collapse of Soviet state Central Asian republics have not managed to allow seeds of freedom and liberal thought to grow. This combined with troublesome neighbourhood (Afghanistan, drug trafficking, Taliban) and with raising demands of every great power to have their influence in the region is a recipe for disaster.
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I of course do not believe even a single word of what Karimov says but refusing to acknowledge that Uzbekistan is a weak state and stating that forcible revolution brought by foreigners will greatly improve situation is either a deliberate misleading or confusion.
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And the last: I take calling me disguised agent of Karimov SNB as personal insult. I have never had anything to do with them and that probably has contributed to some troubles I have had and still experiencing in my life.
Arsalan,
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I take it that your desire is to see Uzbekistan is ruled by something like Taliban and here I disagree with you to some great extend. Although it might not happen due to lack of support for militant Islam from majority of population but in certain areas of Uzbekistan (Namangan region for example) there are certain grounds for radical Islamic thoughts. In the absence of secular opposition some people who are so much oppressed by Karimov so that they will support anything that gets rid of him might eventually help radical Islamic thoughts to gain even greater grounds in Uzbekistan. Karimov himself greatly contributes to this by constant repressions and poor economic policy and the main demand from the West to Karimov MUST be to allow for secular opposition to develop. Karimov himself is over 70 and according to some sources he has some troubles with his health (which of course is being kept secret). On one hand he certainly feels that he is not permanent but on other he is in fear of prosecution as he knows what horrible crimes he has committed. He is trying and will do everything to stay in power till his last breath and by doing so he will naturally (as being educated and politically matured under Communist Party bureaucracy) he will do everything to remove any opposition to this.
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And on other hand I feel that it would be much worse for Uzbekistanis if Karimov’s oppression is replaced by religious oppression. The only way to improve situation is to allow democratic reforms that will help for secular opposition to gain grounds and that might eventually turn Uzbekistan in something similar to Turkey and that is my desire.
Having second thoughts on what could be worse than Karimov’s oppression my previous statement should be read as:
And on other hand I feel that Uzbekistanis would not be much better off if Karimov’s oppression is replaced by religious oppression.
Uzbek,
Your understanding of democracy is wrong. You are talking about democracy but insisting that secular people should be propped up, and this is in a country where nearly 90% of population is sunni muslims. I think you should stay living in the UK and let people in Uzbekistan choose it and if they choose their way by voting in majority for living in Islam, let it be. Besides, your grandparents probably were muslims and they did not have hatred for their religion as much as you have, at the same time i understand you as a product of soviet style education. You talked about iraq and afghanistan. It is exactly what the outsiders are trying to prop up secular minority which is causing all sort of problems in these countries. Not militant islam as you put it. These countries have lived in harmony for years, and had never see so much bloodshed until people with hatred towards islam started interfering in their affairs with one sided ideas of democracy. Remember, democracy means power of people (majority), let people decide, do not call for taking sides of secular or religious views. Only in that case there will be harmony, whether you like it or not.
First reply by my MP Richard Bacon, after yesterdays follow up letter to him telling him of the Malyshevs dissapearance.
‘I have written to the the relevant minister at the FCO asking him to look into the matter and let me have his comments. I will write to you again when I have any news.’
Singed by his parliamentary assistant to ‘expedite’ the arrival of his response to myself…. tut tut.
Far from me waiting for his reply of ‘news’, I shall update him as and how it arises.
Have you got any connections in Zahrafan Craig, maybe somebody could do some carefull digging there. How come the Uzbek security services knew of Nina and Mikels arrival, have they had prior warning by the FCO?, who told them and on who’s behest?
Was the FCO asked to extradite them, or was this their own stupid idea?, an exercise in keeping busy and aligned with the Tories in charge.
AntiDespot,
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I might be wrong but I think it is quite obvious that you are confusing nation with majority of Muslim population and Islamic state. There are number of nations with Muslim population but not all of them are Islamic states. Turkey, Indonesia, Albania despite having absolute Muslim majority and being at present democracies are not Islamic states. Egypt, Syria, Algeria are not Islamic states either but you can argue that they would have been if their population has had a choice and we might soon see some significant changes in some of these states. Iraq until Saddam was removed was not an Islamic state and it is not Islamic at present.
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Also there is no objection to Islam and Muslims of Uzbekistan but turning Uzbekistan into Islamic state (and particularly one similar to the Afghanistan under Taliban) is something that not only me but most of Uzbeks do not really want. However; despite this there are certain possibilities that absence of secular opposition might unwillingly turn Uzbekistan into the Islamic state.
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Now if you are familiar with Islam you would know that Islam as religion does not allow any doubts (and this applies to all major religions of present days). Muslims should take truth in Holly Quran as it is without questioning even a single word from it. This is similar to the truth from Karimov’s books and to whatever he says or thinks. Now what positive change could replacement of one unquestionable truth to another unquestionable truth could possible bring? And what is even more important what possible good could it do to people who are oppressed by this truth?
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If lets say whenever Karimov decides that his time is over or nature or God (or Americans or Russians or Chinese) decides this for him and there are free (really free) elections in Uzbekistan and Islamic Party (if there is one by that time) wins majority of popular vote (although this is conditional to the presence of secular opposition) I will have no objection to this and will accept that government as truly democratically elected government. I will have further no objection if this Islamic Party government allows secular opposition to be in the opposition and also to all those who do not want to be true Muslims also live in Uzbekistan without fear of discrimination or prosecution.
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I hope we are now clear of my thought.
You people make me laugh – jumping to your conclusions speculating on what has happened with no evidence whatsoever – always willing to criticize the government. I am 100 per cent certain that these people with turn up fit and well. Any comments about abduction will be proven to be just figments of your over active imaginations. Don’t just accept what you are told – it isn’t always true! Don’t get me wrong – I wouldn’t want to be abducted or detained illegally – which is why I will be content to be proved right.
Bozz,
The desired result is that they will be produced alive and well. As I have said before, no doubt they will give a statement saying Karimov is a good man and they were misled in their asylum application. No doubt they will also say absolutely nothing sinister happened this alst week and they were just at home.
I hope your trolling is a sign such a result is imminent. The truth will of course be different, and the main worry is that they will be taken in again when we have all stopped looking.
Bozz,
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I really hope that we are all wrong and that you are right and that Malyshevs will turn up well and will be let free.
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However; if you are just trying to spread some dust in our eyes but trolling this does NOT make you any better than those who are at present keeping Malyshevs and thousands of other Uzbekistanis in prison.