This information comes straight from a source with direct access to the Cabinet Office investigation into Fox’s relationship with Werritty.
Gus O’Donnell, Cabinet Secretary, has fixed with Cameron the lines of his investigation to allow him to whitewash Fox. This will be done by the standard method of only asking very narrow questions, to which the answer is known to be satisfactory. In this case, the investigation into Werritty’s finances will look only at the very narrow question of whether he received specific payments that can be linked directly to the setting up of specific meetings with Fox. The answer is thought to be no; that is what Fox was indicating by his extraordinary formulation to the House of Commons that Werritty was “not dependent on any transactional behaviour to maintain his income”.
So O’Donnell will announce that Werritty received no specific money for specific meetings with or introductions to Fox.
But the deal between Cameron, Fox and O’Donnell is that O’Donnell will not address the much more important question of who funded Werritty and why. Having claimed there was no wrongdoing, O’Donnell will say Mr Werritty’s finances are private and should not be made public. It was on that basis that Werritty agreed to give financial details to Sue Gray in the Cabinet Office yesterday.
The Cabinet Office will only look for direct evidence of a little grubby money-making for introductions to Fox. But what is actually happening is much worse and much more serious. Who paid for Werritty’s eighteen overseas trips with Liam Fox and his stays in exclusive hotels in the World’s most expensive destinations? What does he live on?
The answer is that Werritty is paid by representatives of far right US and Israeli sources to influence the British defence secretary. It has been discussed within the MOD whether Werritty is being – knowingly or otherwise – run as an agent of influence by the CIA or Mossad. That is why the chiefs of the armed forces are so concerned, and why there is today much gagging at the stitch up within the Cabinet Office.
This has parallels to the Christine Keeler case but is much, much worse.
That the British Defence Minister holds frequent unrecorded meetings in the Ministry and abroad with somebody promoting the interests of foreign powers is much, much worse than a little cash-grubbing. That the person representing the foreign powers is actually present, apparently to all as a ministerial adviser, at meetings of Fox with important representatives of foreign nations is simply appalling.
That we are being so easily misdirected to a narrow cash question – and that the media have followed that misdirection – is ludicrous.
Everyone here knows which agenda directs world politics. Some of us are critical of it, some pretends it doesn’t exist and frantically try to obscure it by polemics. But, day by day more and more people start to realise that the Emperor has no clothes and that they have been cheated all the time.
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The zionist plauge will eventually self-implode, simply becuase lust, greed and unsatiable hunger for power always deteriorate into plain madness. Sadly, a lot of people will be killed in staged terror-attacks and staged wars before that happens, but it will happen.
Still no sign of any evidence for the big plot. Is this chatting about Oxford and the health service a bit of a distraction? If the fat guy with the 2:2 is supposed to be an agent of influence he has not exactly gone to a great deal of trouble to conceal his activity. The papers, blogs and tv have been all over him now for days. I suppose he could still have been influential, but about what?
And I suppose the other point is that if Cameron sacks Fox then all that effort on behalf of the big plot will have come to nothing. Look, I am not saying that there is nothing dodgy going on, but by the look of this Werrity guy I just cannot imagine him being all that influential with anyone. Possibly, he was reporting back to someone about conversations, having a word in Fox’s ear about this and that and Fox was going along with it because he liked his company, and he was his friend, but does this amount to a serious penetration of foreign intelligence into the heart of the UK government? By the look of it, Fox will be out on ear within a matter of weeks and what will Werrity do then? Let’s wait for the Sunday papers.
I don’t know how useful the info on this Guardian spreadsheet is for the University debate.
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“Keep the flow of revelations coming, all the sooner to end the hideous, squalid and dull mediocrity of this shyster charade of government.”
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This government is the same as the last one, which was the same as the one before, and the one before that – and it will be the same as the next, and the next, and the next.
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So an enquiry is being rigged to exonerate the accused? Well thank goodness – that at least is new.
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@mary
Thanks for the digging on Murphy. Whoops – almost made a potato joke there.
America being destroyed from within by rothschild backed, israeli influenced networks that interlink nationally and internationally. Some witting, most unwitting in lower level acquiesence. No room for a superpower such as u.s. in emerging nwo. Many nations have a part to play in bringing about further war and resultant NWO. U.S a vehichle to pick off remaining potential non nwo nations and spend itself into oblivion in the process.
Comment that says werrity keeping an eye on fox to tow line rings true to me. Another point of influence for pro war agenda that has controlled western foreign policy for so long. Werrity like a little Blair with his fingers in so many pies. Blair operates as part of a globalist cabal keeping peace at bay, and despots in power, like a seasoned werrity. Also Blackmail often used to co opt politicians with skeletons in cupboard, if carrots arent enough.
I urge those not familiar with David Icke’s work to start delving. He is a quite brilliant man with incredible depth of knowledge who puts things into crystal clear context. His commitment is phenomenol. I also commend every single individual interested in truth.
There are a lot of fully qualified Tory activists who would have been quite happy to have a been able to fix any politicians office if he was above board but….just saying. Piece of piss except he’s an emotional man who believes politics is a simple fight – tough. Idiot. It’s the age difference. Can you imagine this conversation if 2 50 year lads walked out of an hotel? Is a bit odd, though. Unless he likes his pot and Werrity gets the job done – maybeeeeee?
Israel is paying Werrity to influence Fox. Fox, as a story, suddenly plummets down the BBC’s list of priorities – with the Israel revelation tacked on at the end of the article!
Coincidence?
Of course it fucking isn’t.
Did anybody see this good man yesterday speaking out and not prepared to tolerate any more of the horror we have been handing out to people of a different skin colour.
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http://www.channel4.com/news/top-army-lawyer-slams-mod-over-human-rights-abuses
Top army lawyer slams MoD over human rights abuses
Wednesday 12 October 2011
Exclusive: The army’s top lawyer during the Iraq war tells Channel 4 News his superiors blocked him when he tried to make British forces treat prisoners in a lawful way, writes Callum Macrae. Warning: You may find parts of this report distressing.
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Shami Chakrabarti of Liberty describes him as “a human rights hero and a military hero as well. A man of principle and a credit to both the legal profession and the corps of officers in the British Army.”
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One imagines that Lt Col Nicholas Mercer’s former superiors in the Ministry of Defence might choose different words.
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Lt Col Mercer was the commander legal of the British land forces that invaded Iraq at the start of the war in 2003. He was, in other words, the army’s top lawyer in Iraq. A successful and well-regarded career officer, it was his job to make sure British troops stayed within the law.
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But Lt Col Mercer’s efforts to do that job were to cost him his dear. And in an exclusive interview with Channel 4 News he describes how he was blocked, harassed and mocked by his superiors in the MoD as he tried to make sure British forces treated prisoners in a lawful and humane way.
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When he said hooding of prisoners was unlawful and must stop, he was told it was a legitimate part of “UK doctrine”. But it turned out he was right.
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When he said that prisoners were entitled to protection under the European Convention of Human Rights, the MoD said he was wrong. He says they stopped him from raising his concerns and refused to implement procedures he proposed. But again it has turned out he was right and the MoD was wrong in law.
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Baha Mousa
Yet had the procedures he proposed been implemented, it is likely that innocent Iraqi hotel worker Baha Mousa – who died after 36 hours of abuse and beating at the hands of British soldiers – would still be alive. Had he been listened to, Britain would have saved tens of millions of pounds paid out in compensation and legal fees.
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And – many argue – had his professional advice been taken, Britain’s reputation would not have been tarnished by the allegations of torture and mistreatment which continue to surround operations in Iraq and have tarnished the UK’s reputation around the world.
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So why did this happen? Mercer argues that the root cause is what he calls an attitude of “moral ambivalence” about Britain’s human rights obligations which goes right to the top of the MoD.
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“I think the millions of pounds that are spent by the Ministry of Defence trying to extract itself from the European Convention of Human Rights was extraordinary,” he says. “It’s an absurd position – and in fact what’s wrong with giving people human rights?”
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He towers above the moral microbes such as Fox, Blair, Hague, Cameron and the others.
Coincidence is God’s way of winking at us:
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Uzbek:
The high rate of production of heads of state by Oxford is due to the opportunities there to network with the offspring of the influential. The education is good, but the social connections are superb. People of equal ability attending, say Nottingham or Dundee (where as a very mature student I did my PhD, and many thanks to it) do not have similar access to the levers of power. The solution to this may not be so much in increasing access by the public at large to Oxbridge, as in distributing the great and good’s spawn more evenly round the other unis.
That said, my PhD supervisor – not an Oxford man -told me after he had accepted me that he had not bothered to read my CV further after spotting that I was a Durham graduate. Durham is actually quite democratic, and it is a pity that this kind of snobbery is still prevalent.
Although that is the exact reason I chose Durham…
Thanks, Other Mod.
Hi Vronsky,
i would certainly grant you that there are similarities in the policy outcomes of whatever of the main parties gets in to power. I also think democracy and representation have become degraded and are certainly not safe in the hands of any of the current crop of politicians. I was not advocating for any of the other parties when i called the currently elected crop a shyster charade. If I have any position it is that there has to be a radical change to the way we do democracy. However i certainly think we have to ‘do’ democracy in some meaningful way-not just give way to chaos.
What i mean is that the process has to be peaceful and do no harm (or at least as little as possible) . Most issues are complex. In exposing the squalid nature of people like Fox and his bosom buddy Werrity it reveals the wider picture.
Just today there was a report on the share dealings of US senators. It produced a very unlikely pattern of returns and points to insider dealing on a highly significant scale. such information on its own is not likely to bring about a revolution but it is important and very telling.
Basically I am not very inclined to the idea of the Lizard kings of Zion orchestrating the destruction of good society such as described by Fork It. However i do find it perfectly credible and even likely that someone like Fox has the kind of mind that will do anything for money, including setting up bogus advisers, charities and deals with any despot and murderer that happens along. Basically he is a stinking, low-life personality disordered narcissist who operates beyond the range of what most human being regards as normal.
The fact is, and i think it is a fact, that we are becoming aware of such processes in our attempts at representation-where the least fitted are permitted to use their aberrant skills to seek public office. And that is is important. In the past many a plausible psychopath has made his or her money at the expense of democracy, completely hidden from the public gaze. A couple of years ago i came across information about how Vodaphone made its way to prominence and great profit, and it almost certainly involved political deals and blatant insider dealing by prominent politicians. Proving it of course is impossible. Yes it is the same old same old but there is also a growing awareness of what is happening under the guise of elected government. The bringing together of tiny bits of the puzzle is of great benefit. that is what is happening on blogs such as this. The process is slow but powerful. Could it be that we are in a transition, where the quality of democracy could be altered by a seismic shift of consciousness ? I think so. Peeling away the layers from such low life as Fox and Werrity is a pain in the arse but it is necessary to reveal them for what they are-just political pimps and hookers, small time hoods and worthy of nothing but contempt and in the fulness of time, they may even get the jail term they so richly deserve. Not yet, but possibly sooner than they think possible.
Werriy is simply a bagboy for Fox. Their venal natures may have led them into being the useful idiots of some other group(s) , which will turn out to be more serious. Fox is not just venal but also a fool. His hubris is the precondition for his nemesis. If Fox is brought down , Cameron may be fatally weakened and the whole charade that democracy has become in the west and Europe and elsewhere is nearer the moment of truth.
DLJ:
If you look at the comments on “Werrity Finances” you will find several links (posted by Mark and me) to supporting evidence that Israel’s British amen corner has funded CFOI, individual Conservative campaigns, and Fox’s baby, Atlantic Bridge, They’re not the only funders, sure, but their fingerprints are on the weapon. Cameron, Blair and Fox are all on record as expressing an almost obsessive devotion to Israel, and are happy to sit on their hands when it comes to promoting any solution to Israel’s and the displaced Palestinians’ problems which involve any hint of a compromise by the Israelis.
I do not subscribe to the NWO nonsense, I am not a David Icke fan, and I do not watch Press TV. I don’t need to. There is enough credible evidence that Israel intentionally subverts and bribes foreign politicians – not just Tory ones either -to obtain its own ends.
It is no accident that every Presidential candidate in the US is vetted by AIPAC. If he wants to stand a chance, he has to make the right noises. Otherwise he will not be approached by a prominent pro-Israeli businessman and given campaign funds. This too is a matter of record.
Other Mod
I like the ( insert ) into another contributor’s comment.
You could add surreptious yawns, smileys, looking upwards to heaven, rage and other emoticons. Not that I like emoticons, but I like the idea of being able to edit/interfere with comments from behind the scenes. You could insert negatives and emphases at will to stir up rage. Us sad trolls mostly believe in our own tripe. You could teach us not to take ourselves so seriously all the time. Thinks: ‘what’s that prat got to say this time?
I haven’t got time to read the same point over and over again.’
Your emoticon would be a visual marker and save reading time.
I’m sorry – Off Topic – Obama repeats ‘Act of War’ allegation against Iran. I believe HMS Echo is in the Persian Gulf and I have heard Naval noise that a window for a strike is opening – OFCOM prepares to take PressTV off-air in the UK.
i re-read the post and the thought struck me that Fox is depicted as the patsy,the junior, or the target of Werrity, in this whole set-up. But intuitively it feels as if the junior partner here is Werrity. Werrity seems to be have been put in place by Fox and enabled to conduct his role as ……..? special adviser? with special business cards with H of P Portcullis.
There can’t be much doubt that the business cards were known to Fox, even if he claims he was unaware . If Werrity is engaged in receiving undisclosed money from foreign sources, such as Israeli businessmen, in order to ‘influence’ it means that they are engaged in a conspiracy of some kind.
Angrysoba
Dear me. There were five Spice Girls to start with, but one of them left. Then there were four. And nary a moustache to be seen.
I’ll come back one more time on Oxford and Cambridge:
The admission rates for ethnic and social groups depend on many factors, as was discussed in the Guardian article: application rates; academic and other qualifications of candidates; popularity of courses they apply to etc. There are other factors which I’ll come to in a minute.
The universities, at both staff and student levels, put a large amount of effort into trying to recruit applicants from under-represented groups. This is partly because they want to attract the brightest kids, in order to maintain their reputation (far more important than social exclusiveness, even if that were a goal), and partly because they truly want the opportunities they offer to be open to all.
The biggest hurdle to this is the attitude that ‘there’s no point you applying, they don’t take black / working class / state school kids’. This attitude is very common among the teachers who oversee university applications at state schools. I encountered it myself. It’s EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING for those trying to widen the pool of applicants, many of whom are giving up time they cannot easily spare, to visit schools and give talks and so on, to find themselves stymied by ignorant bigots who, whether backed up by partial information (only one/two/three caribbean students…) or by none, insist against the facts that there is bias in the admissions process. Idiots like Gordon Brown trying to score political points, and (excuse me) ignorant people like Uzbek here, repeatedly insisting that the admissions process is skewed ONLY MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE. Potential applicants hear this nonsense from their teachers, from public figures, from the press and from elsewhere and they are discouraged. Then the universities don’t get so many applications, so they can’t admit so many people from whichever group it is, and then morons come out saying ‘you’ve only got three working class northern black kids there, what’s going on?’
Of course, the public schools take exactly the opposite attitude; they prepare their pupils for Oxford and Cambridge applications, with mock interviews and so on, and actively encourage them to apply. So of course it’s easier for them, and a higher proportion apply, but it’s not the fault of the universities.
The people at Oxfraud and Scambridge must love the kind of discussion about university admissions taking place here. After all, it shows that Oxbridge really is better than anywhere else, since why else would people care so much about their admissions policies?
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Which is all nonsense, obviously.
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Oxbridge used to be the place where the children of the rich and powerful went to network and establish their position in the upper ranks of the national pecking order — along with a few scholarship boys, which gave them a sense of proportion concerning their own mental limitations and provided a source of high-powered intelligence in the upper ranks of the public service and in Old-Labour governments.
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But then various politicians intervened and insisted on making Oxbridge dependent on public funds, after which they were in a position to insist that these former schools for the elite have a rigorously “meritocratic” admissions policy.
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What that meant was that just about anyone with large numbers of A grades in whatever the current school leaving exam is called gets an interview for a place. And if they can handle an interview, their chances of admission are about as good as that of anyone from Eton. That’s how come two of my sister’s children went to Cambridge — the third and most gifted went elsewhere. (It’s also how come many people from Eton prefer Exeter or Durham to Oxbridge — they have more class.)
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Trouble with the meritocratic approach is that A-levels or whatever, have virtually zero correlation with intelligence or academic performance at university level.
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But nothing has really changed. My Cambridge-trained nephew and niece both have doctorates and good jobs, but neither are members of the ruling elite, or ever could have been. So what has really been achieved by breaking up the old system under which those with connections spent three years getting to know one another closely at university?
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But in any case the idea that an Oxbridge graduate is necessarily brighter or better educated than a graduate from elsewhere is absurd. Some of them, particularly at the graduate level, seem remarkably dumb.
And if they can handle an interview
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That’s what it’s about. The A-level results give you a large pool of applicants; the interview picks out the ones who are best suited for admission – not just intelligence, but personality, initiative, maturity, interest in the subject, breadth and depth of other interests etc etc. The idea that the admissions process doesn’t work because A-levels are crap is just silly. A-level results are just one of many screens. Of course some thick people get through, but overall the standard is very high. There’s a lot wrong with Cambridge, but the admissions process is pretty much ‘fit for purpose’, to use an unattractive phrase.
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I really will leave it now. Obviously there’s a whole sewer full of sour grapes and inverted snobbery out there. 🙂
Aaron Anonymous,
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Well-spotted! Excellent point and I can see you were a credit to Cambridge University. I was wrong about the number of Spice Girls there were when Liam Fox made his joke. Looking at that Channel 4 thing it turns out that he also dated Natalie Imbruglia, the crafty Fox! Bastard!
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Also, good comments on Oxbridge admissions. I think it is really important to, as you say, not be derisory about the chances for working or middle class students to get into places like Cambridge or Oxford. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy to tell students they’ll never get in and not to bother trying (and then with the usual attendent exhortation to consider anyone who does make it of being a snob/of having “sold-out” etc…).
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My own understanding, which may be as out-of-date as my Spice Girls knowledge, is that some colleges such as King’s at Cambridge are more interested in taking on intelligent/promising students from state schools than others such as Trinity, which I understand is much more toff-heavy.
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CanSpeccy: Trouble with the meritocratic approach is that A-levels or whatever, have virtually zero correlation with intelligence or academic performance at university level.
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What evidence do you have to support this?
@DeepGreenPuddock
I didn’t think you were advocating for other parties. What’s depressing to me is that I think the sort of government we have is the sort of government we have always had (apart from some Bismarckian concessions about 70 years ago) and I see no grounds for optimism that things will be better in the future – the opposite, really. All that is new is that (thanks to the internet) there is a marginally larger number of people who know of the rottenness at the core. But as Craig said recently, the reach of the internet is still much less than needed to effect change. I had hoped that the daily exposures of corruption and criminality would have led to change, but it seems these vampires survive in daylight.
The problem with the universities is none of the above. That’s as much of a distraction as ‘is Fox gay’.
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It’s that their purpose is to co-opt and direct the potential elite (and to deal with anyone who managed to get through the school system without being completely crushed), or as Bob Marley put it, they’re “graduating thieves and murderers”.
All seems to point to BICOM.
http://www.zimoz.co.uk/news/headlines/atlantic-bridge-liam-fox-adam-werritty-israel/
Radio 4’s Today programme used the “I” word again today. Seems “it has just emerged that” a firm founded by Werrity received £147,000 from a pro-Israeli lobby group.
No names, obviously. But what a coincidence. Not.
From the link to a leaked email on the Zimoz page linked by Jonathon:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/65513272/Leaked-Bicom-Emai
“BICOM has one of BBC News’ key anchors on a bespoke delegation. When
planning her very first trip to the region, Sophie Long got in touch with
BICOM to see if we could help her out with meeting in the region. Sophie is
now spending three days of her trip with BICOM Israel, taking a tour around
the Old City, meeting Mark Regev and Dr. Alex Yacobsen, as well as visiting
Ramallah and Sderot.”
Mark Regev, lol.
DLJ: no evidence of a big plot ? What do you reckon, just an unfortunate coincidence ?
This whole things stinks from start to finish. Health… Werrity doing business in that field,regular meetings with Fox…. Defence.. Werrity suddenly turns up doing business on defence.That alone is corruption. Then you have people from foreign powers probably party to many of Fox’s conversations or policies thru,our good friend the self appointed advisor who just happens to be in the same room on foreign office trips. That’s treason.he should not have been there or profiting from whatever he was doing.
Let’s not forget, this is the Defence minister that is making huge cuts to our armed forces.His idea or someone elses. If we need to do something in the Falklands in the future I guess we’ll need to outsource that. Who gets that job ??
None of it might seem to be ” a big plot ” , but business could be cashing in on his decisions.
I am not chugging for Murdoch. This is the Times front internet page with their main article. You have to pay £1 to read them but I would not bother. The said Ms Haynes was reviewing the papers on Sky News last night and was waxing lyrical on Fox’s great success in Libya and that there were only 100 pro Gaddafi fighters left in Sirte. Revolting shallow person straight out of RUSI or Chatham House. How does she know what horror is ongoing in Libya.
The rest of the stuff looks as if it belongs in the Sun.
Exclusive: Fox friend funded by intelligence company
Deborah Haynes, David Taylor
October 14 2011 12:01AM
A corporate intelligence company with a close interest in Sri Lanka, a property investor who lobbies for Israel and a venture capitalist keen on strong ties with Washington helped to fund the jet-set lifestyle of Liam Fox’s close friend, The Times can reveal. Over the past year, Adam Werritty, the Defence Secretary’s best man and self-styled adviser, paid for first-class travel around the world and stays in five-star hotels using some of the £147,000 paid into the bank account of a not-for-profit company that he set up. Almost the same amount of money left the account of Pargav Ltd over that period. More than £50,000 was also transferred into the accounts of two other companies linked to Mr Werritty, whose relationship with Dr Fox has cast serious doubt over the future of the Defence…
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Again, you could not make it up. Not a lot between the ears?
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/10/14/oliver-letwin-caught-throwing-away-secret-papers-in-public-bins-115875-23487379/
But the Telegraph names names….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8826133/Adam-Werritty-Liam-Foxs-friend-bankrolled-by-corporate-intelligence-firm-and-Israel-lobbyist.html
Re-enter Zabludowicz (. Well, well, well. Who’da thunk it?
Me for one:
“Mr Werritty is reported to have paid for travel around the world from a company that received funds from G3 Good Governance Group and Tamares Real Estate, an investment company owned by Poju Zabloudowicz, the chairman of Bicom.
Jon Moulton, a venture capitalist, is also said to have provided money to Pargav Ltd, the firm which is alleged to have bankrolled Mr Werritty.
Over the past few days, speculation has mounted as to how Mr Werritty was able to join Liam Fox on more than 20 overseas trips including official visits, conferences and holidays.
It has now emerged that six different people and companies each paid up to £35,000 to Pargav since last year.
Mr Werritty is said to have withdrawn more than £140,000 from Pargav’s bank account to fund his travel around the world to meet up with Dr Fox, The Times reported.”
Remembering Cast Lead – the right way –
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/04/biscom-israel-lobby-poju-zabludowicz