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A civil service mole has promised me some insider news about Gus O’Donnell’s planned whitewash of Fox relating to how they will treat Werritty’s finances in the investigation. This entry is being posted 45 minutes after I leave home to meet them, by an unorthodox route and method of transport, to an improbable location. Oh, and neither of us is carrying a mobile phone either. So don’t bother, you’re stuffed.

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  • mary

    Thanks for your remarks Clark, Crab, Mark and others. I did not respond to Angry’s ad hominem directly as there is little point in getting into a slanging match. A wish for justice for the Palestinians and peace is at my core so perhaps that makes me ‘a crank’. Some truth would be good too.

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    I was out today and went to Bethnal Green to see May Ayres’ haunting and impressive ceramic sculptures, entitled God’s Wars. She has Negroponte slumped in a chair, the personification of evil, Blair too (with two faces) kneeling with clasped hands and praying amongst dismembered body parts laid like a jigsaw on the ground around him, Abu Ghraib brought to life with the torturer and the tortured, ‘Amal, the Palestinian girl pulled out of the rubble of Gaza after the Israeli invasion of Cast Lead in 2009, with shrapnel embedded in her aching head for ever’, Fallujah, and on and on. The exhibition at St John’s church is closing on 16th October and will be open on Saturday and Sunday. Do go if you have the chance. I gasped out loud at the one of Blair which you see first as you come to the top of a winding staircase. An indictment of war and horror if ever there was one.
    http://www.cageprisoners.com/our-work/opinion-editorial/item/2180-unforgettable

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    I then went to the Tate Modern by way of the Millennium Bridge which was sparkling in the bright Autumn sunlight and, amongst many exhibits, saw some photographs by a French war photographer, Luc Delahaye. Only three large format panoramas but very memorable – Jenin Refugee Camp after an Israeli attack in 2002, a plain in Afghanistan after a US bomb attack and the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad.
    {http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2011/aug/09/luc-delahaye-war-photography-art}

  • crab

    If you tell people ‘a gunman killed the Israeli President’ – the popular assumption will be that it was an anti-Israeli gunman (of the Palestinian kind). That is basic knowledge of state of popular awareness, not “insinuation”.
    Off course the BBC didnt expect to fool everyone by omitting the remarkable detail. But it fools plenty of people who pay attention in good faith.

  • Duncan McFarlane

    Propaganda for Iran war moves up a notch

    Postby Dunnadd on Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:19 pm
    So the story this time is that the Iranian government tried to assassinate the Saudi and Israeli ambassadors in the US, by contracting it to a Mexican drug cartel, which agreed to take the entire US government on for $500,000, despite the fact it likely makes that much in a week – and the US Vice President is on TV telling people what a genuine and serious threat this was and trying to persuade other members of the UN to back more sanctions on Iran on the basis of it?

    How can anyone take this seriously? What would the benefits to either the Iranian government or the Mexican drug cartel? Only the US, the Saudis and the Israelis would gain from it – in getting good propaganda for war on Iran.

  • CD

    I see the news is currently dominated by anonymous reports that Werritty was supported by donations from unknown wealthy pro-Israeli, pro-US sympathizers with no lobbying intent … as if he was merely some kind of sponsored best pal. It lacks plausibility. I think it could be evidence of the ruse that Mr Murray was referring to, cooked up by the FCO like some kind of lame schoolboy excuse. It could backfire spectacularly.
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    BTW, I wish you lot would cease the ad hominem bickering. IMHO the majority of Angrysoba’s contributions are very welcome. His counterarguments disrupt the tendency towards gleeful back-slapping amongst commentators of the same political leaning. (Let’s have more donkeys in ballets! It would be more authentic and down to earth than those poncey wankers prancing about in tights.) If you disagree with Angrysoba’s opinions, argue with them, don’t simply deny his right to voice them. It’s better for others to read your contrary opinions than to listen on conspiratorial polemics. FWIW, I don’t think Angrysoba’s jibes are any more harsh than the salvos launched against him (although his record is far from spotless). And if anyone is going to launch a personal attack questioning my motives for defending his right to free speech, please pause for a moment of careful self-reflection. How about focusing on Fox and Werritty instead?

  • Komodo

    What CD said. The personal insults don’t belong on a blog like this, in the opinion of this noob. Issues and info, please.

  • Komodo

    “…unknown wealthy pro-Israeli, pro – US sympathisers….”

    Zabludowicz, Hintze and Lewis, perhaps? Or maybe some of the Atlantic Bridge, Inc (still extant over there) gang. Richard Perle for instance.

    I see a spokeswoman has stated that AB’s (UK) “charitable” funds have been transferred to another charity with similar objectives. So the scam continues.

  • Duncan McFarlane

    There may have been a plot Dlj, or there may not. Either way no-one senior in the Iranian government was involved – the senior ranks of the Republican Guard and the Ayatollahs have shown that given the choices of being overthrown or killes or backing down – they back down – e.g Khomeini making peace with Saddam in 1988.

    It’s quite possible there was a plot in which the FBI came up with the entire idea and got some modestly wealthy gullible Iranian Americans to agree to it – they’ve been doing the same with Al Qa’ida inspired plots in the US with American Muslims in multiple cases. It gets the officers involved a conviction and a boost to their career and it’s easy to do.

    e.g
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/29/fbi-entrapment-rezwan-ferdaus

  • nuid

    “His counterarguments disrupt the tendency towards gleeful back-slapping amongst commentators of the same political leaning.”
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    Couldn’t agree more. Not so much back-slapping, but the “me too, me too” around here has got a little boring. Interruptions from Eddie and Alan and that Charles Crawford bloke are/would be welcome these days. My two pence.

  • crab

    I have something to get off my shell, about people getting things off their shells, about people getting things off their shells. Anything lacking in blatant fallacy, type it Angrysoba supporters!

  • glenn

    Nuid: That’s all very well, mate, but you can hear the establishment line trotted out pretty much everywhere else. All the MSM. All the government lines of communication (such as the BBC). Every newspaper, with rare exceptions here and there.
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    What you don’t hear on the BBC etc. is alternative views – you get the right debating the far right on virtually all Moral Maze/ Question Time type discussion programmes, and this is most particularly true in the US.
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    Yet when a genuinely open discussion among progressives takes place, it’s suddenly vitally important that “alternatives” are wheeled in to give their views. This isn’t a place for a lot of back slapping, although I don’t see why respect for another’s post has to be completely hidden.
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    Maybe you could explain why it’s so necessary for the establishment line to be trotted out _everywhere_ ? Eddie, Alan, Crawford, Angry – that’s all they ever do, give the same unwavering establishment line. Don’t you get enough of that as it is?

  • Andy

    “I leave home to meet them, by an unorthodox route and method of transport”……. TRAM?

  • nuid

    “Maybe you could explain why it’s so necessary for the establishment line to be trotted out _everywhere_ ?”
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    It’s not. But there has been a certain sameness here for a while, IMO. I think it does no harm for progressives to be forced to defend their positions from time to time, instead of simply reinforcing each other. Arguments are good for us, that’s what I’m saying. When they’re not slanging matches, that is.

  • Duncan McFarlane

    I agree Nuid – though AngrySoba has done some slanging of his own in the past, we definitely need to have real debates with people with different points of view. Otherwise both sides might miss flaws in their arguments, or other possible explanations of the facts – and miss out on sources and reports that might suggest things are more complicated or different from the way they’d thought they were.

  • Chris2

    “… Do you suppose that, as Glenn suggests, the BBC should have announced within minutes of the assassination, “fanatical Zionist Israeli freak Kills Rabin!”?

    By now the BBC ought to be pointing out that the “fanatical zionist, freak”‘s colleagues are now part of the Israeli government. And that the assassination has proved to be a political triumph.

  • glenn

    Sure, I certainly don’t mind having to defend/ argue a position. But you’ll note that – in this thread, for example – not one single point of substance was directed at my post about the way Israeli terrorism is reported, and the huge disparity between the way Palestinians are treated compared with their Israeli counterparts when criminal acts are perpetrated. All that I described about collective punishment – and far more – being a case in point, when it occurred in Awarta, Palestine, just recently.
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    That is something that deserves attention. But instead of _any_ comment about that at all, I get the some infantile yah-booing concerning my rather ordinary name, for god’s sake. Sure, let’s have serious discussion, see where it ends up. But we don’t get that very often – it’s usually appeals to authority, invective, and argument by incredulity.
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    Hmm. Hmm. Thinks.
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    We’ve tried it before, but we should always willing to give it another shot. AS – sorry for my past insults to you. I’ve gone out of my way to lay one on you, more than was strictly necessary. Perhaps we can let bygones be just that in the interests of achieving some genuine discussion. We obviously share similar interests, albeit from different angles. It shouldn’t have become so personal – my failing.

  • anno

    I got to the bottom line of Three’s marketing policy on ‘all you can eat data’. You can no longer get ‘all you can eat’ on cheaper tariffs than £25 p.m. and if you try to use the mobile to get internet for your computer they will close your service down.
    ‘All-you-can-eat’ is now a totally misleading marketing slogan and possibly breaks the law under the Trade Description Act.
    O2 were more honest, and changed their version of all you can eat for lower tariffs to a limit of 2GB. Three have been misleading before, I’m afraid.

    A bit like Angrysoba. He is a 2GB cheerleader for the ALL YOU CAN EAT war criminals of our time. He is a modest and friendly supporter of far right politics which having wiped off the blood of Libya like tomato ketchup, are eagerly tucking into the latest false flag op against a Muslim country, this latest tripe about assassination plots from Iran.
    Liberals on this blog love to defend the far right’s right to speak, and complain about too much ganging up against them.
    That’s fine. Keep the tomato ketchup for the chips and stop bringing up the realities of being on the receiving end of modern munitions. It wasn’t British before and it’s now rather un-American to focus on the victims of global power terror all the time.

  • glenn

    Anno: With regard to the new false-flag pseudo-op against Iran, you might be interested in the following:
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    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/10/11/iranian-terror-plot-fake-fake-fake/
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    Here’s an extract:
    —-start
    This story is very scary – not because it’s credible, or believable, because it is neither. However, it’s the most frightening story I’ve heard in quite a while because it shows that the US government is bound and determined to go to war with Iran, no matter what the consequences. Throwing caution to the winds, our rulers have decided to go all out against Tehran – all the better to mask our current economic malaise under the damage done by the tripling and quadrupling of oil prices. This way, Obama can blame our crashing economy on Tehran, rather than his own discredited policies – and sideline the Republicans, who have been criticizing him for being “soft” on Iran.
    —-end

  • Aaron Anonymous

    Come on, anyone who describes Samir Kuntar’s handlebar moustache as a a ‘Hitler moustache’ can’t be taken seriously. Perhaps lefties are sometimes too tolerant of obvious trolls.

  • ingo

    Yesterday must have been dogfighting day, despite the drizzle I could hear them whilst fixing the shed roof. Our bovver boys without mandate are planning another military diversion from the misery they created.

    Liam Fox is hampering the MOD with his denial, his work is now seriously compromised and we can expect him to take huis hate soon. The MOD are seemingly not happy with pink dispatch boxes and want him out.
    CFI are right up to their neck in it, not surprisingly, defesne is a portfolio Mossad was always interested in.
    A simple explanation here.
    http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/concepts_israeli_covert.html

    and most recently in 2007 when they took the boats they had paid for in a daring raid.
    http://militarynuts.com/ar/t1249.htm

  • angrysoba

    Glenn,
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    Your offer of a truce and your apology is both generous and gracious. In turn I should of course apologize for making fun of your name and for my own insults. But if Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat can shake hands and engage in dialogue then we should be able to put our own relatively minor differences to one side and be able to do the same. So I accept your olive branch, sir, and try to do better in future.
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    Mary,
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    I also owe you an apology for being insensitive. While I don’t agree with you a lot of the time I should have taken into consideration the harrowing events your brother experienced and I shouldn’t have called you a crank. Sorry for that.
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    Crab, sorry I mocked your name.
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    Aaron Anonymous,
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    Samir Kuntar seems to trim his moustache to different lengths at different times. Let’s say that if he had been at the signing of the Nazi-Soviet pact he could have plausibly fit in on either side of the table.

  • angrysoba

    So I accept your olive branch, sir, and try to do better in future.

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    Should read, “I accept your olive branch, sir, and I will try to do better in future.”

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