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140 thoughts on “Scotland’s Gay Conservative Leader

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  • Antelope Grazer

    Of course, as she was elected by some sort of dodgy redistributed second-preference system, when every good Tory knows only FPTP will do, the result doesn’t mean anything. Same with Call me Bomber Dave.

    Less than 5500 votes in all.

    Jackson Carlaw – 830 votes

    Ruth Davidson – 2278 votes

    Murdo Fraser – 2096 votes

    Margaret Mitchell – 472 votes

    After the distribution of Margaret Mitchell and Jackson Carlaw’s vote the election result is as follows:

    Ruth Davidson – 2983

    Murdo Fraser – 2417

  • deepgreenpuddock

    of course there is no guarantee that gays will vote conservative because the Tories now ‘belong’ to them.
    And what about all the big blue-rinse battleships, and crusty old captain types of tory. Are they ready for such social radicalism.
    We do live in a funny world these days.

  • ianbeag

    Total votes cast, 5676 of whom 40% voted to scrap the party and start again. Elected leader with the support of only two of her MSP colleagues (would that be her own plus one other?). Some start, some party!

  • Vronsky

    Tory thing, new leader, yawn. Not just more gays than tories up here, but more people who think Elvis is still alive, more people who have been adbducted by aliens, more people who….sudden flash of insight – are they really all the same people?
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    o/t – Like this article by Fisk at the Independent. Everyone on telly wearing a poppy while simultaneously thumping the war drums is sickening and infuriating. I wish there were some anti-poppy I could wear in protest. Any ideas?
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-do-those-who-flaunt-the-poppy-on-their-lapels-know-that-they-mock-the-war-dead-6257416.html

  • ingo

    It will improve clandestine decision making and brawn within scottish Tories, not that it matters much these days. Cue a highland fling by two non sexual twins for the SNP, its all about perceptions.

  • Komodo

    @ Vronsky:
    This year I grew some black, well, very deep purple, cornflowers. Same field (- full of corpses -) association, more appropriate colour. Idea?
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    Re. gay Tory leader; it’s ok, she’s a lezza. Girls will be girls and they cannot all be relied on to appreciate the manly charms of a male hedge fund manager. Just so long as it isn’t one of those arsebandits, like Hague, Harrumph.

  • mary

    Nuid – Here but I think you have to order them.
    http://www.ppu.org.uk/whitepoppy/index.html
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    Komodo – You are really enjoying that scoring out gadget you discovered aren’t you?

    All – So Ruth is not the only gay in the village then!

    PS Local supermarket this morning. Six fresh faced youngsters in army cadet uniform holding the trays of poppies and the collecting boxes. Pathetic and so sad that they have been brainwashed.

  • Guest

    “The new Scottish Conservative leader has distanced herself from London control by insisting David Cameron is not the party boss north of the border.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-15605723
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    David Cameron must have given her permission to say that.
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    Can`t wait to hear what the winner of (New Labour) Scottish Labour Party leadership contest is going to say on their election as leader, maybe something along these lines (I think).
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    The new Scottish Labour Party leader has distanced themselves from London control by insisting Ed Miliband is not the party boss north of the border.
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    Ed Miliband will have given them permission to say that.

  • mary

    Off topic 7 dead and 51 injured, Maybe more fatalities. What it is going to be like when the Tory boys’ raised speed limit comes into operation This terrible accident was obviously caused by drivers going too fast for the conditions. An earlier report included a comment from a driver on the same carriageway who was not involved in the crash ahead. He said that cars were overtaking him and that they must have been doing 90 mph or more.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-15606278

  • wendy

    away from the original post ; excellent overview of the syria war –
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/04/syria-iran-great-game?commentpage=2#start-of-comments
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    “In parallel, Qatar had stepped to the fore. Azmi Bishara, a pan-Arabist who resigned from the Israeli Knesset and self-exiled to Doha, was according to some local reports involved in a scheme in which al-Jazeera would not just report revolution, but instantiate it for the region – or at least this is what was believed in Doha in the wake of the Tunisian and Egyptian uprisings. Qatar, however, was not merely trying to leverage human suffering into an international intervention, but was also – as in Libya – directly involved as a key operational patron of the opposition.”

  • ingo

    will be making up my own poppy this year, it is translucent, see through, invisible almost, a dishounerable poppy, in rememberance of all those innocent, the invisible masses of unarmed civilians that have died in illegal and dishounerable wars of recent times.

    Why was the word gay highjacked?, something S.Fry might want to stretch his grey cells over. And who gives a damn, why is this a matter of detail to be pointed out? its importance to whom?

    Why are we apparent heterosexuals so boring not to want to display our heterosexuality with annual marches, pink placards, shaved legs and bare arsed cheeks in leather, expressing our love for each other and how that is such a fun thing to do, that we enjoy living together, etc. etc. and that we would love to see our children be as happy in our sexuality as we are, that we would like to have our lifestyle and views mentioned in the curricullum, as it is really vital for growing individuals to come to twerms with their sexuality.

    Aren’t we boring? 😉

    Our rights to find employment in homosexual bars, LGBT tea rooms, juiceries, nightclubs, gyms and health spa’s is guaranteed by the laws of this land, or are they?

  • Guest

    “Pathetic and so sad that they have been brainwashed”
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    What do you expect!, so many of these “fresh faced youngsters in army cadet uniform” have been brought up playing war games on their Xbox, etc. Its a lifetime of brainwashing, the only hope is they wise up…eventually ?.

  • Parky

    “Pathetic and so sad that they have been brainwashed”

    …unlikely before they come home in a coffin or suffer physical and mental trauma and a life of pain after war injuries. The type who sign up have never had the opportunity to consider who and what they might be really fighting for and for some it might be the only way out of their limited life prospects in some run-down post-industrial town.
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    just as I read that line a very loud firework exploded nearby, is that part of the brainwashing too ? Are these things getting louder or am I just getting older ?
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    although i’m sorry for the victims of the M5 crash yesterday, it did cross my mind of the worse carnage created by the NATO bombing of Gadaffi’s escaping convoy, not that I had any sympathy for him, which wasn’t examined in so much detail as the MSM is doing for this. Can’t help the case for a 80mph advisory upper speed limit though?

  • mary

    Parky ‘just as I read that line a very loud firework exploded nearby, is that part of the brainwashing too ? Are these things getting louder or am I just getting older ?’
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    Yes they are. Like WWII bombs going off here last night. My old single glazed windows were shaking and the dog was frightened. It wasn’t even Nov 5th. A few years back some rockets from one of those carousels landed on the roof of my house where they exploded and shattered several tiles.
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    I wrote to Brown’s lot about firework safety in general at the time but got some brush off response.
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    Very useful info I am sure.
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/1836/regulation/8/made
    {http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/InYourHome/FireSafety/DG_064665}

  • Guest

    Mary, the technology to control the speed of cars has been around for awhile, it would cost about £120.00 to install it in each car, making it impossible to break the speed limits. There were plans to implement it by the last government, but they came to nowt!.

  • Jack

    Many wear the poppy with genuine and justified pride, but if those – especially politicians – who sport it as little more than a cynical visual byte really DID care, the loss of our young people in conflicts that are rarely necessary and even more rarely any of their business wouldn’t be continuing with the same brutal regularity as it always has.
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    You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
    Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
    Sneak home and pray you’ll never know
    The hell where youth and laughter go.

  • Hamish

    For centuries long
    our land enslaved
    by Turkish kings
    with sharpened blade.

    We prayed to end
    the Sultan’s curse,
    the British came
    and spoke a verse.

    “It’s World War One,
    if you agree
    to fight with us
    we’ll set you free.”

    The war we fought
    at Britain’s side,
    our blood was shed
    for Arab pride.

    At war’s end
    Turks were smitten,
    our only gain,
    the lies of Britain.

  • nuid

    Thanks Mary. I must tell a member of my family how to get the white version. He wears the poppy because one of his family died at Ypres, fighting with the British. (He has other connections too but I can’t remember them all.)
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    “A study released by the [US] Army in June 2009 indicated that nearly as many American troops at home and abroad committed suicide in the first six months of 2006, as the number who had been killed in combat in Afghanistan during the same time period”
    http://www.cchrint.org/2011/06/04/18-u-s-veterans-commit-suicide-daily-largely-due-to-psychiatric-drugs/
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    I have never seen anything like the M5 last night. Latest figures are saying 7 dead and 51 injured. I’m wondering if there could be some reason for it that is not as straightforward as fog and a wet road?
    Horrendous.

  • nuid

    Can you believe
    The competitors in ‘Strictly’ are wearing poppies, on top of their costumes! Now, as they say, I’ve seen everything.

  • mary

    The figures for road deaths and injuries are shocking.
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    http://www.rospa.com/faqs/detail.aspx?faq=296

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    Justine Greening, who replaced Hammond, our new Minister for War, was straight faced when asked for her views on the accident and the likely causes. ‘Let’s wait for the result of the investigation’ and similar when asked if the new higher speed limit would increase the accident rate. She did pay tribute to the police and fire services, the members of the public who tried to assist and to the ‘health care workers’ as she called the doctors and nurses and others at the hospitals involved.

  • Komodo

    If all the huge Chinese fireworks used tonight were piled up and detonated at once –
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    they’d do a pretty good job on the House of Commons, wouldn’t they?
    Just thinking aloud.
    Mary: no


    YES!

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    some of this should work…

  • mary

    I wish Komodo. Did you ever see the film? Prescient?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-gHVGOoE48&feature=related
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    Plot
    In 2020,[4] the world is plagued by environmental blight and the former United States has become balkanized. Britain is ruled by a totalitarian government under the fascist Norsefire party. Evey Hammond, a young woman who works at the state-run British Television Network, is rescued……

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