The planned scenario for a war with Iran is playing out before our eyes at frightening speed now. Unfortunately. as I have frequently said, Iran has a regime that is not only thuggish but controlled by theocratic nutters: the attack on the British Embassy played perfectly into the hands of the neo-cons. William Hague is smirking like the cat who got the cream.
The importance of the Fox-Gould-Werritty scandal is that it lifts the lid on the fact that the move to war with Iran is not a reaction to any street attack or any nuclear agency report. It is a long nurtured plan, designed to keep feeding the huge military industrial war machine that has become a huge part of the UK and US economies, and whose sucking up of trillions of dollars has contributed massively to the financial crisis, and which forms a keystone in the whole South Sea Bubble corporate finance system for servicing the ultra-rich. They need constant, regenerative war. They feed on the shattered bodies of small children.
Gould, Fox and Werritty were plotting with Israel to further war with Iran over years. The Werritty scandal was hushed up by Gus O’Donnell’s risibly meagre “investigation” – a blatant cover-up – and Fox resigned precisely to put a cap on any further digging into what they had been doing. I discovered – with a lot of determination and a modicum of effort – that Fox, Werritty and British Ambassador to Israel Matthew Gould had met many times, not the twice that Gus O’Donnell claimed, and had been in direct contact with Mossad over plans to attack Iran. Eventually the Independent published it, a fortnight after it went viral on the blogosphere.
The resignation of the Defence Secretary in a scandal is a huge political event. People still talk of the Profumo scandal 50 years later. But Fox’s resignation was forgotten by the media within a fortnight, even though it is now proven that the Gus O’Donell official investigation into the affair was a tissue of lies.
Take only these undisputed facts:
Fox Gould and Werritty met at least five times more than the twice the official investigation claims
The government refuses to say how often Gould and Werritty met without Fox
The government refuses to release the Gould-Werritty correspondence
The three met with Mossad
How can that not be a news story? I spent the most frustrating fortnight of my life trying to get a newspaper – any newspaper – to publish even these bare facts. I concentrated my efforts on the Guardian.
I sent all my research, and all the evidence for it, in numeorus emails to the Guardian, including to David Leigh, Richard Norton-Taylor, Rupert Neate and Seumas Milne. I spoke to the first three, several times. I found a complete resistance to publishing anything on all those hidden Fox/Werritty/Gould meetings, or what they tell us about neo-con links with Israel.
Why? Guardian Media Group has a relationship with an Israel investment company, Apax, but the Guardian strongly denies that this has any effect on them.
The Guardian to this day has not published the fact that there were more Fox-Gould-Werritty meetings than O’Donnell disclosed. Why?
I contacted the Guardian to tell them I intended to publish this article, and invited them to give a statement. Here it is, From David Leigh, Associate Editor:
I hope your blogpost will carry the following response in full.
1. I know nothing of any Israeli stake in the ownership of the Guardian. As it is owned by the Scott Trust, not any Israelis, your suggestion sems a bit mad.
2. The Guardian has not “refused” to publish any information supplied by you. On the contrary, I personally have been spending my time looking into it, as I told you previously. I have no idea what the attitude of others in “the Guardian” is. I form my own opinions about what is worth publishing, and don’t take dictation from others. That includes you.
3. I can’t imagine what you are hinting at in your reference to Assange. If you’ve got a conspiracy theory, why don’t you spit it out?
I can understand your frustration, Craig, when others don’t join up the dots in the same way as you. But please try not to be offensive, defamatory, or plain daft about it.
As I said, it would be honest of you to publish my response in full if you want to go ahead with these unwarranted attacks on the Guardian’s integrity.
Possible some Guardian readers will get drawn to this post: at least then they will find out that Werritty, Fox and Gould held many more meetings, hushed up by O’Donnell and hushed up by the Guardian.
It should not be forgotten that the Guardian never stopped supporting Blair and New Labour, even when he was presiding over illegal wars and the massive widening of the gap between rich and poor. My point about Assange is that he has done a great deal to undermine the neo-con war agenda – and the Guardian is subjecting him to a campaign of denigration. On the other hand Gould/Fox/Werritty were pushing a neo-con project for war – and the Guardian is actively complicit in the cover-up of their activities.
The Guardian. Whom does it serve?
The Guardian is establishment. Do not forget their support of the Blair ID card initiative via their mouthpiece Polly Toynbee.
http://forum.no2id.net/search.php?keywords=toynbee&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
Ken,
Alas the videos were for far too long on Ogrish.com, which later became liveleak.com (just read some of the comments sections, incidentally this site was promoted by no less than BBC) as well as other sites on the net. Along side the butt naked pictures of the GIS, and GIESSes. When the bullshit meter of the MSM had been so busted that no one cared to buy the lies in these fed to them, cue entered Wikileaks in cahoots with the five of the MSM (guardian included) to bring you the truth, yeah I should coco.
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It is my pleasure to inform you all that for the last three years I have not read the guardian, and have not been around CIF and I have no intentions of changing a good habit. That rag is living off its old reputation, of the days when reporters were not embedded, and they did not sit around waiting for the stories to drop in their mailbox, filtering those stories which were in line with the editorial policies set by their millionaire proprietors.
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The Lizard has laid bare the fifty four million pound losses, despite which the torrent of bullshit published in Guardian is yet to be stopped. As we all know only governments are suppose to carry on with loss making industry, private sector is driven by profits only, hence the paradox of fifty four million pounds of losses and the operation still going on, why?
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“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
Guest:
“What`s the betting that Fox will be back in a new Cameron coalition cabinet within the next 6/12 months”.
Not worth the risk. He will be back. He has told the BBC that he is hoping to be back on the front benches soon.
The speculation will be on which ministerial job he will be given; it won’t be a junior post. Home Office? How about Foreign Secretary? William Hague is seen as weak by the Cameron reactionaries.
@Picaro, when you say the “daggers come out for Paul Flynn” do you mean “Matthew Gould”?
@Fedup.
Alas the videos were for far too long on Ogrish.com, which later became liveleak.com (just read some of the comments sections, incidentally this site was promoted by no less than BBC) as well as other sites on the net. Along side the butt naked pictures of the GIS, and GIESSes. When the bullshit meter of the MSM had been so busted that no one cared to buy the lies in these fed to them, cue entered Wikileaks in cahoots with the five of the MSM (guardian included) to bring you the truth, yeah I should coco.
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Wikileaks was not in cahoots with the MSM when that video came out. The video was released on a wikileaks website. This one to be exact.
http://www.collateralmurder.com/
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If you believe that what wikileaks have released is not truthful then that would be your problem,the evidence suggests it is.
Pub-quiz question I’ve never seen posed:
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Apart from spelling, what do AIPAC & Apax have in common?
Hi Komodo,
“torture of women ……. circulated by CIA officers to America’s allies around the world as a “teaching” manual. How dare the Iranians remember all this?”
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The more disturbing aspects of the rape of men as well as women were by trained dogs. These dogs, would bite and subdue their human target before proceeding to rape them. This facet was hinted at in the tripartite documentary Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis The voice over narrating; “Sayyid Qutb underwent three separate heart attacks, and after this experience he was never the same”. Whilst the package shows the soldier/warder/dog handler walking towards a cell and after opening the prison cell door, unleashes the dog, leading it into the cell, and shuts the cell door. After which moves onto the next cell to repeat the process.
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Although as we all know (god knows how) Shah of Iran was a “Democratic” kind of chap!
I have felt for some time that newspaper editors may have received a DA-notice about a forthcoming operation against Iran, and therefore are not willing to print stories or even speculations about it. Not that it would surprise me if the Israelis attacked Iran’s nuclear facilities, after what their politicians have been saying in public.
@geomannie
“The Guardian is establishment. Do not forget their support of the Blair ID card initiative via their mouthpiece Polly Toynbee.”
Just plain wrong read here http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/may/26/immigrationpolicy.idcards?INTCMP=SRCH
Difficult as it may be for some to comprehend the Guardian does allow it columnists to express views that are different from its editorial line. Columnists other than Polly Toynbee expressed opposing views on ID cards e.g Henry Porter.
“If you’ve got a conspiracy theory, why don’t you spit it out?”
Having knowledge about corrupt traitors who are being protected by equally corrupt politicians, police and journalists is hardly a ‘conspiracy theory’. Obviously a nerve has been hit, as it always is with the Israelis and their selective over-sensitivities to the truth.
It may be an “anti-Semitic conspiracy theory” to state that the “Israeli lobby” is running this country from behind the scenes, but it is also a verifiable fact – they say ‘invade Iraq’ we invade Iraq, they say ‘bomb Iran’, we bomb Iran. This country has no independent foreign policy.
“Apart from spelling, what do AIPAC & Apax have in common?”
A tenuous one. Apax’s cofounder, Alan Patricof, is American. Both he and Sir Ronald Cohen (other cofounder) attended Harvard Business School. Both are very supportive of Israel.”Apax” is a compendium of A(lan) Pa(tricof) X (Cross)(-Border), however, and the resemblance to AIPAC is almost certainly coincidental.
@Abe Rene, whether they have or not put a DA-notice regarding Iran is irrevelent unless people get behind those in parliament likely to question the goings on of senior government ministers over Western Alliance plans, which have been ongoing for a decade, to create a New World Order. These are to a large extent centred on the oil-fields of the Middle East. Iran, and Syria, are on the list of countries to be deposed. It is like a dream, or rather a nightmare, that we are living in. But like the Nazis were overthrown so will be this modern-day aim at world domination. Those likely to question are the Labour Campaign Group (which include the likes of Paul Flynn and Jeremy Corbyn) a lone Green MP, and very few others. Good luck to them.
Ken,
If you believe that what wikileaks have released is not truthful then that would be your problem,the evidence suggests it is.
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Why should that be my problem Ken?
What evidence are you referring to Ken?
Who validated the evidence? How this evidence came to be?
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The five MSM; Le Monde, El Pais,Guardian and Der Spiegel, and New York Times, were the same bunch of liars whom published oodles on Saddam WMD, all too eagerly serving their masters and making mass murder of Iraqis probable. The same ne’er-do-wells are the subject of the thread you are commenting on.
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No Ken, I don’t need anyone telling me; what is true? or what is false? I do think, I can adduce, and my judgement can be relied upon as one of the gang of twelve people whom often sit on judgement to ascertain wrongdoing, and apportion guilt.
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The video you refer to, was in circulation doing the rounds for yonks before the wikileaks “leak”, through the dance of the seven veils.
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BTW Ken what happened to the “Banking Leaks”?
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They leak documents for this very purpose
Just as well for la Toynbee’s generous income that the Grauniad is selectively tolerant of mild dissent. She contradicts herself with some regularity, and is notorious for it.
@Latin
whilst Matthew Gould should be brought to task for his activities, I was indeed referring to Paul Flynn. If you put his name in a search engine, you’ll see that a frothing-mouthed pack of ‘anti-anti-semites’ are baying for his blood.
That the repugnant Mr Frum is right in there at the forefront is particularly ironic considering the charges of dual loyalty (mentioned in the Mondoweiss article) against the new American ambassador to China.
Latin is right. But there are others who can aid the opposition, who are not separated by party lines, for example, Julian Assange, Robert Fisk, Craig Murray and St John Pilger (though there are younger journalists hopefully persuading their editors of a new tack).
@Picaro, thanks for the clarification. I’m sure you’re right. What I thought was that you were comparing a Chinese ambassador with Chinese sympathies to a Zionist ambassador with Zionist sympathies.
@Fedup.
It would be your problem because obviously you are having trouble defining what is truthful and what is not. You quote a dubious film by Adam Curtis as evidence but seemingly pour scorn on secret records released by wikileaks. I am refering to evidence released thru wikileaks, I thought that was pretty obvious. The evidence is certainly from an American government system that was availaable to many thousands of people,one of which decided to take said info and give it to wikileaks and of course it is verified,a helicopter cockpit video is what it is unless you are completely lost in conspiracy theroy land.
The MSM prnt what they can get,if they get loads of intelligence people and governemnts telling them something is true then they print that,it is up to you to believe it or not frankly.
The video was not doing the rou7nds as you call it yonks before wikileaks released it. The video was handed to them in 2009 and was coded,wikileaks did not decode it until the first half od 2010 and it was released on April 5 2010.
You can believe what you want fella,no one really cares. What about? what about the banking leaks?
How come QT have invited Frum the has been tosser, and nobody to pass brain farts?
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We all know that: public opinion does not influence foreign policy in Britain. Foreign policy is an elite issue. Therefore inviting this odious wanker Frum whose wife was ever so proud of him for “coining” the Axis of Evil, is so gratuitously smacks of money for old boys story.
Ken,
The video was in circulations without the particulars of the mission, ie blanked out parametric, yonks before the “leak” date, if you hadn’t seen it, then perhaps you are a bit too slow on the search Ken.
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Dubious film you say Ken, now you prove you are are a troll Ken, because you are covering up for the sick bastards whom stand guilty of crimes against humanity.
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Your kind are sick Ken, and I have no time for tossers.
Fedup..
Ah you have reverted to type, insulting people who do not agree with your conspiracy theory. Well done have a gold star. No point replying to anything you write again.
Anyone,
Take time to watch the Power of Nightmares (if you have not seen it already), it is a well researched, and cleverly scripted documentary that was Broadcast on BBC2 in the days when BBC was not as whipped as the poodle that, it is now.
QT is as boring as ever and so is Frum. Switch off time.
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What Friends of Israel Face in Britain
December 1st, 2011 at 11:28 am David Frum | 19 Comments |Share | Print
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As an example of the attitudes my friends at the Anglo-Israel Association bump up against in contemporary Britain, there’s this:
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A Labour MP has caused outrage by suggesting that Britain’s first Jewish ambassador to Israel has divided loyalties because he has “proclaimed himself to be a Zionist”.
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Challenged by the JC to clarify his comments about Matthew Gould, who took up the post last year, Paul Flynn, the Labour MP for Newport West, said ambassadors to Israel had not previously been Jewish “to avoid the accusation that they have gone native”.
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Britain needed, he said, “someone with roots in the UK [who] can’t be accused of having Jewish loyalty”.
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Paul Flynn has not hitherto been known (I’m told) for this kind of derogatory comment. But he’s tapped a rich vein:
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[Flynn] said doubts had been raised about Mr Gould’s loyalty by two of his constituents, Pippa Bartolotti and Joyce Giblin, who had been held in prison in Israel after taking part in the “flytilla” demonstration against the Gaza blockade in July.
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“When they were briefly imprisoned in Israel, they met the ambassador, and they strongly believe… that he was serving the interest of the Israeli government, and not the interests of two British citizens,” he told the committee.
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Ms Bartolotti is the deputy leader of the Green Party in Wales and stood against Mr Flynn at the last election.
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Mr Flynn added that the same question of divided loyalty would apply to anyone with a “foreign” family background, including former Foreign Office Minister Denis MacShane, whose father was Polish.
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http://www.frumforum.com/what-friends-of-israel-face-in-britain
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A typical example of his output, hardly the work of a great mind at work. Any schoolkid could produce the same or even better.
Israel’s Grand Hypocrisy
Netanyahu Slams ‘Anti-Liberal’ Arab Spring
by Jonathan Cook / December 1st, 2011
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As protests raged again across the Middle East, Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, offered his assessment of the Arab Spring last week. It was, he said, an “Islamic, anti-western, anti-liberal, anti-Israeli, undemocratic wave”, adding that Israel’s Arab neighbours were “moving not forwards, but backwards”.
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It takes some chutzpah – or, at least, epic self-delusion – for Israel’s prime minister to be lecturing the Arab world on liberalism and democracy at this moment.
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In recent weeks, a spate of anti-democratic measures have won support from Netanyahu’s right wing government, justified by a new security doctrine: see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil of Israel. If the legislative proposals pass, the Israeli courts, Israel’s human rights groups and media, and the international community will be transformed into the proverbial three monkeys.
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http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/12/israel%e2%80%99s-grand-hypocrisy/
Power of Nightmares… Medialens criticism and Curtis response.
http://www.medialens.org/alerts/04/041207_Curtis_Response.html
@ Ken
Haven’t you heard of selective leaking? It’s what spooks do.Amidst a mass of possible disainfo and yes,tittle tattle,they will and do allow the occcasional real horror to get rhrough(as in the disgusting cockpit footage).This often serves though to merely “authenticate” the bona fides of the other tranche of “leaks”.Its one of the oldest spook tricks in the book Ken and i’m really surprised you have taken this story on first dimension face value.
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The rabbit hole in such matters runs very deep in this sort of game Ken.There are many rooms and many mirrors.But if you want to take the main and first narrative without question i guess that’s up to you.
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And no,i don’t read The Sun,as you inferred.
@Jives, yes I have heard of it and wikileaks is not tittle tattle and the Americans had no gain from releasing all the info that came out. The info that has come out has done no good to the American government at all. Now if you want to believe that they somehow released all that stuff to make themselves look really bad and show their military as murderers then that is up to you, I am not buying it.
@ Ken.
Well,i guess our opinion differs then.
And thats Ok.
Jives,
Troll does as trolls do;
The MSM prnt what they can get,if they get loads of intelligence people and governemnts telling them something is true then they print that,it is up to you to believe it or not frankly.
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However before it was;
If you believe that what wikileaks have released is not truthful then that would be your problem,the evidence suggests it is.
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ON goes the contradictory run of bullshit, and bullocks, to tie up the thread.
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Mary,
That piece by the Hasbara Author D. Miliband is an interesting front developing at this early stage.
@Jives.
Yes opinions differ and that is fine. Cheers.