Americans pissing on murdered Afghans – a description of every Republican candidates’ debate and every Clinton and Obama speech.
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Great clip Leo. Notice how many good people leapt up to help him. A fine example of cowardice.
Trigger1; “there may be reporting bias in selecting DNA studies according to your agenda. I would rather believe the majority opinion which does not favour Khazar origin”
You should really have read the Post without assuming or looking for an agenda; for in this matter I have no agenda apart from historical curiosity; I didn’t state that I agreed or disagreed with the two people cited in my Post; I think that their views are worth knowing about, after all these are two people, who based on their respective fields of research, put their credibility/reputations on the line, in supporting a Khazarian origin, and who also just happen to both be Jewish; which incidentally reminds me, that Arthur Koestler, the man who perhaps is most credited with popularising this theory, was an Ashkenazi Jew himself, as well as a was pro-Zionist.
Almost unwatchable Leo. As you say Marcus, they sat by and did nothing. Under mind control.
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This from the Guardian.
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The marines urination video doesn’t show the real war crime
The urination video does not shock me so much as the public’s tolerance of these immoral wars that make criminals of marines
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Ross Caputi Friday 13 January 2012
Video allegedly showing US troops urinating on bodies of Taliban fighters
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The video of US marines urinating on Afghan corpses does not shock me. Though their behavior is disgusting and unacceptable, I find the public’s reaction to this video far more troubling. People are not outraged that there are dead Afghans; they are outraged at the manner in which the dead are treated. This is indicative of our culture’s tolerance for war and war crimes – as long as they are done in a gentlemanly fashion.
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During the second siege of Fallujah, blatant war crimes were committed, yet the corporate media reported them with indifference. The siege itself was a war crime, according to the International Committee of the Red Cross Summary of International Law, because indiscriminate tactics were used, constant care was not taken to protect the civilian population, proper distinction between civilians and combatants was not made, medical personnel and medical units were not protected, indiscriminate weapons were used, and recent research about the current health crisis in Fallujah suggests that poisonous weapons may have been used as well.
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Many of these war crimes were reported by the corporate media, though they were not described as such. For example, the New York Times reported on 8 November 2004 that American forces “seized” the Fallujah general hospital. An incident that I witnessed, as did Paul Wood and Robbie Wright from the BBC, was when my unit fired grenades into a house until it collapsed – with full knowledge that there were two resistance fighters and a young boy (roughly 10 years old) inside. Paul Wood interviewed the lieutenant at the scene, and he acknowledged that they had killed the young boy. In both of these reports, war crimes and Geneva Conventions were never mentioned, and the façade of honorable conduct was preserved.
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What did not make it into the news was my behavior in Fallujah and the behavior of others in my unit, which I am certain would have elicited outrage equal to that elicited by this video of the urinating marines. I believe that the second siege of Fallujah can correctly be characterised as an “atrocity-producing situation”. Our false beliefs about who we were fighting, our dehumanisation of Fallujans, our desire to “see combat” (a cute euphemism) and to get a confirmed kill, and our longing for revenge for lost comrades against a faceless enemy all conspired to create a bloodthirsty and lawless atmosphere.
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I witnessed marines stealing from the pockets of dead resistance fighters and looting houses. I’ve heard firsthand accounts of marines mutilating dead bodies, of a marine who murdered a civilian, and of a marine who slit a puppy’s throat. As the days of the siege passed, we used increasingly indiscriminate and illegal tactics – like “reconnaissance by fire”, which is when you fire into a house to see if anyone is inside. The violence, the hate and our distorted sense of morality made many of us sick, including myself. I stole a black ski mask out of someone’s home, because I wanted to take it home as a trophy, as evidence that I had fought against the “terrorists”.
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My behavior and the behavior of others in my unit was despicable, as was the behavior of these marines urinating on corpses. But we shouldn’t let ourselves be fooled that an immoral mission and immoral war could ever be conducted in an honorable manner. War crimes were implicit in the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and they are abundant in the continued occupation of Afghanistan.
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Yet, many of us choose not to see these war crimes, even though they are right in front of our faces. Only when a shocking YouTube video comes along, do we choose to look. And even then, what we see is the urinating, not the dead bodies.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/13/us-marines-video-urination-war-crime
Our leaders have a stash of this material to distract us from the the real news.
1/ imminent invasion of another Muslim country, Syria
2/ imminent exposure of war criminal Blair’s torture rendition
Good morning, an interesting link not had a chance to browse yet but thought it may be of interest.Have a good week-end. x
http://guardianlies.com/
What a cracker Craig!!Not an isolated arbitary act by the grunts but an inflexion of the criminal, barbaric swine who run the rotten show. And how they rant and froth in denial!!
Sorry OT, but this demonstrates the craven attitude of our politicians to their masters in Washington:
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Compare these two stories:
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-An Englishman sets up a website in the UK. He doesn’t visit the US; doesn’t break any English laws. The Yanks decide they don’t like his site and want to stick him in jail so we hand him over.
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-The Duchess of York visits Turkey and breaks Turkish law, making a film which violates the privacy of some orphans. She then returns to the UK. Turkey seeks her return to answer charges stemming from her behaviour in Turkey, but a spokesman for the Home Office told The Daily Telegraph that no assistance would be given to the Turkish authorities…
“Under UK extradition law a judge must order the discharge of [an extradition request] if it is not an offence under UK law and in the country requesting extradition,” said the spokesman. “In this case there is no offence in UK law so there will be no extradition.”
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086310/No-free-TV-Student-set-file-sharing-website-extradited-judge-rules.html
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/9013830/Duchess-of-York-evades-extradition-over-TV-row.html
Marcus:
“Great clip Leo. Notice how many good people leapt up to help him. A fine example of cowardice.”
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It’s not as simple as that. I can think of several occasions where something unexpected happened and in retrospect I “didn’t do the right thing”. It’s harder than you think, particularly if you are unprepared: your mind is preoccupied with the thought, “What’s going on here?”
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Also, how could anyone have helped him? Killed the cops?
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Of course those who did protest are to be commended, but courage takes many forms, and it isn’t always spontaneous.
@ Franz
No it is not easy and most, like me, are physical cowards. But – to my mind – part of the point of liberal blogs like this is to educate us to protest and object to brutish police behaviour like this as it happens because we are already aware. Too late for the US probably as most are already brainwashed, but hopefully not yet for the UK or Europe.
“Video allegedly showing US troops urinating on bodies of Taliban fighters”
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If truth matters in this world, it should have said…
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Video showing US troops urinating on bodies of allegedly Taliban fighters.
@Franz
Actually, in the USA ‘kill the cops’ might not be a bad idea. See : http://www.jbcampbellextremismonline.com/new-essays.html where I particularly like the phrase “If you see cops abusing people, don’t take pictures for YouTube – shoot them.” A refreshing opinion, but more seriously in line with Solzhenitsyn’s opinion that if people had resisted midnight arrests at the time (with force), Stalin’s purges could never have happened.
Franz- I hear you. Stepping between is easier than you think, and tends to passively dissolve the situation, certainly with only 5 officers. It would have needed at the most only 2 more people. I feel we are getting too close to the “when good men fail to act” bit of our current drama.
If you have a one on one with a security representative they aren’t going to do anything, they then have to reason with you. Two on one you’re still an unknown quantity, any coward in that couple will prevent the other one being effective.. You don’t have to start killing until 3 apear (joke).
Free Ju-jitsu classes to anyone who wants them. Or, have a look at
Miyamoto Musashi’s Book of Five Rings (“fighting many is easier than fighting one”). 🙂
No spell checker, sorry.
The fascist US society has been long in the making, ever since the day after the end of WWII. Operation “paper clip” translocated more than experts and their body of knowledge, it also exported the NAZI weltanschauung albeit a much more refined and tweaked version. Yanks have learned to camouflage, tool up and paint their face just to go buy a hamburger, or pack of chewing gum, thanks to the years of unstinting Hollywood education. Hence it is not cowardice but a natural reaction of the citizenry who know; Police Knows Best.
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The current US rush for
lebensraumdemocratization and stopping the proliferation of the nukes, is an elegant consequence of years of training of the US citizenry.O/T
LATEST:Emir of Qatar becomes first Arab leader to call for troops to be sent to stop bloodshed in Syria
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Of course he did. Readying for a Libya Mk II.
Their part in Operation Odyssey Dawn only six months ago but almost forgotten now especially by the corporate media who played their part.
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Qatar Armed Forces
Qatar Emiri Air Force[40]
Six Mirage 2000-5EDA fighters jets operating from Souda Air Base, Crete
Two C-17 Globemaster III strategic transport aircraft
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Odyssey_Dawn
Obviously you don’t have to be a member of NATO to operate out of NATO bases, just a willing member of the Empire’s Coalition of the Killing.
@Mary
Sorry I am a bit slow and getting out of touch. Quatar: which media outlets do they fund, if any, and what other outlets are supportive of this naked aggression (quite apart from the mainstream media in the UK/US Israel axis). These shitty little kingdoms should be abolished.
Well Al Jazeera for a start. It is the most powerful TV station in the M East mainly via satellite.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera
I will just add this http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/15/qatar-influence-middle-east as I am aware that I was off topic. 😉
I am starting to get a very uneasy feeling about all that is going on.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28652
http://info-wars.org/2012/01/14/ex-israeli-intelligence-officer-%e2%80%9cpearl-harbor%e2%80%9d-style-attack-will-be-pretext-for-war-on-iran/
Iran : ‘Surprise’ Pearl Harbor attack will be pretext for war on Iran.
This is a wonderful poem written by a 17 year old. I wish I had such talent. I agree totally with his/her sentiments below.
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http://sanaasultan.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/divide-my-veins/
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About
I’m 16 year old(now 17 year old) poet from the UK. My Kashmiri heritage ties me to the struggle against inequality & injustice.
After the attack on the Freedom Flotilla by the Israeli Offence Force on the 31st May 2010 I realised that as long as good people remain silent those who intend to create negativity in the world will prevail. That is not something I can stand by and watch. I believe that every person has a right to freedom, equality and justice so I hope that through my poetry I can give a voice to those without one & I can help to bring about the change that is very much needed in our world today.
I write about issues such aand express my views on many issues that I believe should affect us all as human beings.
Macky
Language is one thing, ideology another, and ethnicity another.
Ethnicity might be relevant to a G.P, or for an interest in geography. I oppose the received ideas of Judaism on the grounds given in the Qur’an that it had been revealed over and over again in the history of Judaism that a Messiah and a great prophet called Muhammad were going to come, and when they both came, its followers found their teachings unpalatable and so they refused to follow them. Ethnicity and language are irrelevant to me.
What is relevant to me is that the followers of Judaism changed the points for everybody else, shunting Western civilisation into the sidings of 1/prophet worship, Christianity, and 2/ materialism, which both prophets peace be upon them came to denounce as a waste of time. I don’t mind what harm they did to themselves. they can do what they like so far as I’m concerned.
But the atomisation of money which we see in modern banking, and the atomisation of humanity into me-first ideology, is what I call Zionist Freemasonry.i.e. groups of people agree to co-operate to disenfranchise the majority, of money and resources, of love and support. Why do I call that Zionist? Because the messages of Jesus and Muhammad pbuh were to re-inforce and legislate for the birthright of human beings, to live in freedom, justice and good-neighbourliness, which the followers of Judaism decided to oppose, and continue to oppose in every possible way.
Zionism to me is nothing to do with ethnic origin or language, or the use of the word in history. The word Zionism means the pursuit of evil in the clear knowledge that God has asked us to promote righteousness, with rewards in the hereafter of extreme favour and disfavour to focus our minds on what we are doing and where we are going.
This idea of mine would have been obvious to people in the UK 300 years ago. It is difficult to find a concensus today that righteousness is anything more than a fantasy, even among Muslims! Muslims are pre-occupied by power with a small p, which is definitely not where I would wish Islam or anyone else to be.
So the grunts kill the Afghans to piss on them; protecting a narco state arrangement.
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Revenue from opium production in Afghanistan soared by 133 percent last year to about $1.4 billion, or about one-tenth of the country’s GDP, according to a United Nations report received Friday.
“Opium is therefore a significant part of the Afghan economy and provides considerable funding to the insurgency and fuels corruption,”
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Nraco Capitalists running the cheapest hedge fund
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/01/14/beating-the-drums-of-war-provoking-iran-into-firing-the-first-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-23818
Provoking Iran to fire the first shot.
I’m missing the lizard. Where are you Komodo?
The idea of a false-flag attack in the Strait of Hormuz seems to have gone viral. Interestingly a ‘leak’ I referred to some weeks ago now suggested that a Royal Navy attack class submarine might be involved.
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Crucially activities of boats/ships are now being reported from expats near HMS Juffair now NSA Bahrain and the port facility at Mina Salman. I will post anything of interest here.
Mark Golding – Children Of Iraq
Lot of piss and wind. Iran is not a push over, she can fight back.
Bob said; “Iran is our neighbor, and if Iran is involved in any military action, it’s a direct threat to our security,” Russia’s outgoing ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, told reporters in the Belgian capital Brussels on Friday.
Ref Costa Concordia, 114,500 tons of junk now lying on her side off Giglio.
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Silence so far from Micky the son and heir of Ted Arison (Arisohn) of Carnival Corp, subsidiaries Carnival Cruises, Costa Cruises, P&O, Holland America Line, Cunard Line, Princess Cruises and Seabourn Cruise Line among others.
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http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/11799/ted-arison-world-s-wealthiest-jew-dies-in-tel-aviv/
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{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Corporation_%26_plc}
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Micky’s sister Shari runs the Israel side of the business including Bank
Hapoalim and Housing and Construction Holdings, including settlement construction.
{http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a08uujQZmtxI&refer=exclusive}
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The Midas touch?
@Anno,
Firstly, if I understand you correctly, your religious beliefs are of paramount importance to you, which I understand & respects, as I respect the rights of all people of Faith to practise and live their lives in accordance with their religion. I shake my head in amazement when I hear militant Atheists or Nationalists demand that a person’s religious beliefs should come second to their loyalty for their Country, being a moronic statement which only underlines their misconception of what it means to be being religious.
Secondly, if you mean Jews by your term “followers of Judaism”, then I cannot see that they can be held responsible for the spread of Christianity throughout Europe; if I recall my school RE studies correctly, it was the Hellenized Roman Empire that enabled the spread of Christianity to the West. Neither do I think it is accurate to blame Jews or Zionists for fostering the culture of materialism upon the West; the hypocritical Pharisees that opposed Jesus & his message, were only later examples of the same anti-humanists called Sophists, that Socrates warned about centuries before; these people have always existed, the types that value Winning/Power/Material Gain more than Truth & Justice, the Machiavellian types that engage in shenanigans & weasel semantics to disguise their motives/dishonesty, who believe that all Truth is relative & flexible, etc; these days we sometimes call them “Spin-Doctors” or “Realpolitik” Politicians, or even more currently employed are terms such as the “Decent Left” or “Humanitarian Bombers” ; the sort of people whose cannot realise that self-righteousness is not righteousness, & who believe that “ends justify the means”.
Finally you mention Evil, and that again reminds me again of one of the main messages of Socrates; that people have an innate sense of Morality/Good, but are ignorant of it, and that the use of pure reason/wisdom would lead them to rediscover it; it other words people do bad/evil things because they have forgotten/ignorant of Morality/Good, which is normally abbreviated to the quote “There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”