The Sandringham estate is a large expanse of countryside and easy to enter. The dumping of a body there in no sense entails any connection to the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Battenberg household. But I am baffled by the police claims that, despite repeated attempts, they cannot extract DNA from a body they say is only between one and four months old, not even from the teeth. That seems very strange. I hope news management is not at work in this delay in identification.
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In the case (recently completed appeal process) of Robert Pickton, who murdered about 50 women in Vancouver, BC – he picked them up over about 10 years, killed them then cut them up and fed them to his pigs. One news story said that most of graduating archaeology students that year had summer jobs sifting through pig manure for evidence. Apparently the pigs were too lazy too grind up the teeth. They found enough evidence with several murders from DNA inside teeth that had been through a pig intestine and buried in manure for years.
I would be surprised if a body only 4 months old did not have useable DNA unless it had been in really interesting conditions. (What? I don’t know)
Picked this up from a forum (ghastly sorry)…so unless this young lady was found without teeth , whats the problem ?
Todays revelation, expert from the national history museum is being roped in to help with determining the death by means of the surrounding insect life.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/police_bring_natural_history_museum_expert_to_royal_estate_at_sandringham_to_help_murder_inquiry_1_1171394
The more one reads, the more bizarre this case becomes. Able to extract from 14th century teeth BUT with a four month old corpse, zilch ! Then they go on to say we will check with the DNA DATABASE…if no match we will check items of ALL missing people, have you any idea how many people are missing ? this could take years. One final point, jewellery belonging to the victim , would this have not been shown to family members, why have these items not been shown on the news to see if a member of the public recognizes a ring, a necklace, something. Weird.
http://smileyculturelies.blogspot.com/2012/01/norfolk.html
Hey Ingo, what difference does it make how long she has been there ? one to four months were the early reports and they said MURDER. I hope this is not another ‘ well if we were all on the database she would have been named by now ‘ We want to know who she is and what happened to her.
I understand that certain insects have a life span and this can detect the time of year this poor girl died, laying their eggs etc, time of month BUT unless I am missing something an insect has yet to tell forensic’s how a victim met their death. As I said weird !
Abe Rene,
Get your humour circuit reset button and push it a couple of times.
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I was trolling in the fashion of the ziobots (the format goes bla….bla…bollocks..now fall in line behind your leader/rabbi/prime minster/king/queen) Further reading you comment had me in stitches;
Why, it would bring down the house of Saxophone-Battenburg and replace it by Bagpipe-Dundee or even Morris-sticks-Kipling.
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However recollecting the past, I was actually told to leave UK and go live in Russia because they don’t have a queen there, by an irate royalist/loyalist, because he felt I had slighted her maj! Now you get the drift?
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i used to live and work in that area and the russian mafia controlled all of it, the MP george Turner, the police and council, they had money to burn, it was a regular thing foreign girls went missing and would turn up dead , some one was having their fun with them, we said it was girls escaping one of many foregn brothels there in kings lynn,a hateful place
Jack the Ripper?
The Man-in-the-Bag?
Yes, absolutely weird, Rocki. The MSM will see this all as perfectly normal. Move along please, nothing out of the ordinary, nothing to see.
The Bone in the Sea?
As long as they don’t bring Miss Marple into it. I tend to side with the screen villain whenever Miss Marple is involved.
Found it was pretty “convenient” that they sent the body to a ROYAL hospital…..for the “autopsy”
I’m sure , like David Kelly and Diana, it will be a full and conclusive report. (right)
and they can’t find DNA? HMM, WANNA BET SHE KNEW THEM?
But hey hats another dead body to our royal parasite overclass who mass murders and enslaves across the globe.
Heres a DEAD WITNESS (also murdered) testimony saying the “queen” and “prince” philip took ten native canadian children on a “picnic” and they were never seen again. Along with hundreds of thousands of others who were “disappeared” in the native canadian schools but this “queen” and her vatican allies. Genocide, plain and simple, and no justice for these children who’s lives were cut short by ruthless greedy SCUM in nice clothes. (the queen is head of the masons also, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children as well – for their “rituals” and “entertainment”)
Craig thank you for overcoming your squeamishness at putting your stuff up on Rense.
I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve thought I must check out that ex-ambassador guy with all those juicy stories again, started trying to recall your details for Google then completely forgotten I was supposed to be looking for you.
sorry forgot the links
Kevin Annett – Rev. Kevin Annett – Genocide of Canadian aboriginals at 25 million; 50,000 children now missing; Key witness William Coombes assassinated by Crown and Vatican agents
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/breaking_news/2011/04/rev-kevin-annett-genocide-of-canadian-aboriginals-at-25-million-50000-children-now-missing-key-witness-william-coombes.html
http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/star-witness-against-queen-dies-suddenly/
Queen Named In Child Abductions
http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news263_queen.html
Fedup, glad you appreciated my humour in the end. I’m not against HM myself, but I wouldn’t tell Republicans to move to Russia or whatever. Still, in the unlikely event of being offered a gong, I doubt that I would reject it!
Gyufyu (or is ‘Gyiftu’?), if you remove the aich-tee-tee-pee and triple double-u prefixes, you can post multiple links here. If you leave in the three w’s but take out the aich, etc., you can post two links at a time, I think.
I have had a few views this morning from Vietnam on this post..missing since 2005… Thi Hai Ngyuyen
http://watchingyouwatchingyme-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2011/03/thi-hai-nguyen-this-is-her-correct-name.html
Of course it cannot be her due to the years she has missing but it just shows family/friends never give up hope. However, the media mentioned jewellery was found and the victim has high cheekbones. Thi Hai Ngyuyen has/had both. I cannot understand why the police have not made a point of showing the jewellery on the news, something may be a gift from a loved one and recognized immediatly. Nothing in the news today except rehashed from the week.
With missing Jo Yeates the public were asked to look for a Pizza and a missing long white sock, this case seems very cloak and dagger.
Fascinating about the Royal family, will read up on that later. Thank-you.
The illegal embalming of Diana.At the inquest we heard from THE French expert who claims he did not know the law in his own country, performing an act he was trained to do. Embalming the dead!
http://dianaunlawfullkilling.blogspot.com/2011/12/diana-was-illegally-embalmed.html
I suppose they do want to make sure no royal genes are anywhere near, or in this murdered womans body. And off course it does not matter how long she has been dead, DNA is present, they are just taking their bloody time with it.
Its not a mystery anymore. the body has been identified as the missing teenager Alisa Dmitrijeva
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/crime/breaking_news_police_identify_body_found_on_royal_estate_at_sandringham_as_missing_wisbech_teenager_1_1171558
Poor kid. RIP Alisa. Her life was very short. Why did she come here from Latvia? For a better life?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-16460141
Not a mystery,apparently, but I hope someone can disentangle the following :
Samples were taken from the tooth, femur and muscle of the calf to test for a DNA profile. The first two sets of tests have not yet revealed a usable DNA Profile. (EDP 6 Jan)
Results of the latest test, which involves DNA being extracted from a powder form of the bone, are expected on Monday and if they produce a positive DNA result could lead to the identity being revealed within hours – if the person is on the database. (EDP 7 Jan)
‘Following initial tests obtain a full DNA profile, identification of the victim has been made by comparing detail from her palm with records held which have been further verified by DNA from her femur‘ (EDP 8 Jan)
‘DNA tests helped detectives identified the woman as Alisa Dmitrijeva, Norfolk police said in a statement.’ (CNN)
Cops say it is unlikely they will talk to the Royals, none of whom is thought to have been in residence at Sandringham when the body was dumped months ago. (The Sun)
Why is it never straightforward?? Palm Records???
Unless the reporting by the EDP is inaccurate and speculative, I agree that there are many inconsistencies. I have obviously heard of finger prints but never palm prints but if so, why were they taken from a 17 year old foreign girl??? They said Monday to determine DNA from bone matter, yet at 2pm today, they make the identification. Has an inquest been opened?
“…if the person is on the database”
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I wonder why she is on the database? Only (!) 8% of the UK population is on it according to http://www.genewatch.org/sub-539478
This was news to me about palm prints. Note the Orwellian named National Policing Improvement Agency. I assume the girl had been arrested previously.
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‘Every person arrested in England, Scotland and Wales for a recordable offence has their fingerprints, palm prints and limited nominal data taken and entered onto the database. DNA and mug-shot photographs are also obtained.
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This data is synchronised with the “arrest record” on the Police National Computer (PNC) or on the Scottish Criminal History System (CHS). In England and Wales print images are only removed in special circumstances, but Scotland removes records on acquittal.
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The technology includes an Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS) search engine and two principal databases, one contains the national fingerprint (tenprint) database with over 8.1 million identity records and a second holding unidentified crime scene marks. Together with PNC, it is recognised to be part of the vital national infrastructure for policing.’
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http://www.npia.police.uk/en/10504.htm
Hello Mari, I also unaware of palm prints. What an educational blog this is. It would appear the future is in the palm of our hand.
http://ponderingtechnology.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/your-identity-in-the-palm-of-your-hand/
Fascinating. so too is this:
http://www.lincs.police.uk/News-Centre/News-Releases/15-09-2011-Cambridgeshire-Missing-Person-Appeal,-Update-2.html
Why would the police be asking about the Lexus car she was last seen in being possibly in theHeacham area?? Sandringham is half-way between Kings Lynn and Heacham. This inforation came on 15 September. Last sighting (in Kings Lynn) 31 August 2010.
And why indeed would she have had her palm prints taken? And formally identfied already, Sunday 8 January, by whom??
There’s more bizarre happenings this morning. On ‘A SUNDAY’ news announced the victims identity. This morning unidentified ‘ Nude of The Nettles’ body is to be exhumed who just happened to be the same height as the latest victim for DNA tests ! Last Saturday they could not profile a four month old corpse NOW they want to check out a 30 year old case !
http://watchingyouwatchingyme-steelmagnolia.blogspot.com/2012/01/nude-in-nettles.html
Cancel the height, I foolishy took it from a newspaper report , I never learn. ‘Nude in the Nettles’ was 5’2.
Now they want to know who was in the area on six days last Summer. As if the perpetrator is going to come forward.
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Plea to Sandringham Estate event organisers over girl’s body find
Alisa was last seen in Norfolk in August 2011
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Body on Queen’s estate identified
Sandringham search finishes
Murder inquiry at Queen’s estate
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People who organised events at Sandringham in Norfolk last summer are asked to get in touch with detectives investigating the murder of a teenager.
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The remains of 17-year-old Alisa Dmitrijeva were found at Anmer on the Queen’s estate on New Year’s Day.
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Police say they are particularly keen to talk to people who organised events between 30 August and 6 September.
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Latvian-born Miss Dmitrijeva was identified by comparing detail from her palm with records.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-16469866