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M.
Could have been. I am aware that some call-centres use so-called voice stress analysis kit which use some kind of technical voodoo to determine that the person who has been on hold for 17 minutes is somewhat peeved.
It all sounds like a scam to me.
Anyway, from Peter’s posts I thought things were less impersonal than call-centres and that normally one would get to a known individual, your personal account manager.
Good point about the caravan, that is a constraint!
On a different track, I am trying to work out the ‘field of view’ of the retired policeman that saw the 4×4 and the two mobylettes.
Do you know where he lived and the direction he was facing, the distance to the road from his viewing point, is there a hedge in the way etc. I dont need or want his address just rough location sufficient to work out which road (or roads) he could see and the angle etc. Thanks.
Is this the mother of the wife of Eric Devouassoux
http://dirigeant.societe.com/dirigeant/Claude.LITTOZ_MONNET.86165200.html
ski-home business Chevaline
GIP, M. Antoine is very easily traced, he appears to operate a chambres d’hotes (guest house)all above board and listed with the local Mairie in Doussard, there is some great footage of him speaking to camera that wasn’t anything to do with the murders.
I don’t thin he ever specifically referred to a 4×4.
MN, Claude (a male or female name) is his father-in-law, his mother-in-law is Genevieve.
Nevertheless, he rents out somewhere for holidays, it’s the way they make money, top up their pensions.
If you search his name you’ll find a photo and maybe even VT of him.
Tourism, MN, just tourism.
Many areas of France live on tourism, Lac d’Annecy does, I can see why, although a personal choice is to rent a holiday home near the sea.
GIP, for CA, not c d’hotes but Gites:
Google his name + gites + doussard, I can’t copy the PDF.
Better still go to Google Streetview, you can see the top of his head as he’s working on the entrance to the property, with his horse in the field and a German shepherd lying on the driveway !
He was working on some stonemasonry that day, if here then he was on the road.
http://www.societe.com/societe/antoine-nicole-gisele-n-e-psaume-444744890.html
M.
Thanks. Found it but gardening calls, so shall have to look at it later.
I think it could be helpful if we knew who specifically gave the information to the police artist who made the likeness of the Combe d’Ire motorcyclist, that was rendered thirteen months later as the E-FIT-SKETCH.
If MISTERLYON is a real person and on 05/09/2012 was actually motorcyling on the Combe d’Ire and stopped and spoken with above Le Martinet by one of the forest guards and it was that actual forest guard who gave the information from which the police artist crafted the image
we are all familiar with, I@d like to volunteer to eat my hat.
I suspect that the person who two plus years later is attributed by Eric Maillaud
as having been the motorcyclist looks nothing like the E-FIT-SKETCH
I suspect what has happened is an E-FITTED-UP-SKETCH
has been produced to look like their nominated patsy
Eric Devouassoux.
MN, everywhere but everywhere says the sketch was put together from the description given by the two forestry men.
Why the heck would they make up a patsy, it makes no sense, if they were to do that they’d have been better off choosing someone of no fixed abode and without family.
Ultimately, there was a more comprehensive description regarding colouring and size of the man.
Even upon Eric D arrest, there was already comments from EM telling people to be cautious, they knew within hours he didn’t do it, I suspect he was held more because he did have old weapons and was buying and selling.
I thought only one forestry employee had stopped and spoken with LYONMAN
and that LYONMAN had utilized the special side-opening helmet,
thus revealing his distinctive features?
Yet it has been reported that LYONMAN did not own and had not been wearing a special side-opening helmet that day?
If Eric Maillaud were to wheel out LYONMAN and Eric Devouassoux together,
with the E-FIT-SKETCH held at head height between them,
your ordinary sceptical members of the public both FRANCE and ENGLAND
would then be able to make their own minds up as to if there had been an attempt at obfuscation?
I am of the suspicion that this “Slaughter of the Horses” business
has inter-governmental attention.
There was a meeting of at least two parties but I suspect three or four parties.
Some government oversight was in place.
I imagine the meeting went badly, some of those involved managed to melt away.
Some were slaughtered.
It took thirteen months for the E-FIT-SKETCH to be put out into the public domain.
Six days later the Lathuile home of the family Communal-Tournier was raided,
Nicole was shot dead, this was no simple burglary.
this looked like an attempt at abduction/torture/murder.
Their home is within spitting distance of the holiday home of William Brett Martin,
the finder of the slaughter.
W.B.M. claimed a very slow riding motorcyclist descended the combe just before W.B.M. found the death scene.
It has not been said that the E-FIT-SKETCH is of this slow riding motorcyclist.
Who was this slow riding motorcyclist?
If secret services are involved to protect the situation, they may have “guided”
the police artist to make a likeness of Eric Devouassoux, not necessarily to have him imprisoned for slaughter but to take the attention away from the real murderer long enough,
so another person could be secretly introduced to Eric Maillaud, so he could instantly dismiss this new person as having been there but not in any way shape or form involved.
“To Confuse”
O.K.
was the slow riding motorcyclist who passed William Brett Martin, as
W.B.M. was ascending to discover the scene of slaughter,
the person depicted in the E-FIT-SKETCH?
If the slow riding motorcyclist descending past William Brett Martin
was not the person depicted in the E-FIT-SKETCH
then it is likely the public have been SCAMMED
—-BREAKING—-
France launches Syria anti-IS strikes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34372892
The game is afoot.
“then it is likely the public have been SCAMMED”
It’s called a psy-op.
Brett Martin has moved his business* back in house in July 2015
https://www.duedil.com/company/05708870/silver-fern-sussex-limited
Not much change in his website.
Quote Prime Minister Manuel Valls
“These strike operations were decided by the head of state, we act legitimacy, he said.
We act autonomously hitting Daesh in Syria,adding that Bashar assad is not Syria solution.
France has hit Syria the night on the basis of information collected upstream. It is our commitment against the terrorist threat. Our country must continue to show his voice!”
http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2015/09/27/la-france-a-fait-ses-premieres-frappes-aeriennes-en-syrie
Eric Maillaud wants us to agree with him that local Sylvain Mollier was 99% not involved.
Eric Maillaud wants us to agree with him that local MISTERLYON was 99% not involved.
However Eric Maillaud has not unequivocally
said if the slow riding motorcyclist
is the same person as MISTERLYON.
If the slow riding motorcyclist is a different person
are the cops still looking for this geezer?
@MN
They found MISTERLYON, but what is the trademark of the bike?
@M.
You are very active, we must continued Not Forgetting the al-Hillis
in my case I always try to find the film that served as the staging to this conspiration.
Another shooting in South East FRANCE, near Grenoble.
A twenty nine year old man coming from a chalet settlement of twenty remote dwellings,
Villeneuve, Isere. Shot the other side of Grenoble on edge of city.
http://www.ledauphine.com/isere-sud/2015/09/28/saint-martin-d-heres-un-homme-tue-par-balle-ce-matin
“Saint-Martin-d’Hères: a man shot and killed this morning”
MN, interesting the car continued in reverse after he was shot, don’t you think ?
“L’homme était connu des services de police pour association de malfaiteurs et avait lui même été mis en cause dans des règlements de compte entre malfaiteurs. Son frère avait été tué lors d’un règlement de comptes en 2007, selon la même source.”
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/may/30/man-shot-dead-london-street
Settling of scores ….
Danish women falls off cliff in FRANCE.
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2015/09/28/le-corps-d-une-trentenaire-retrouve-sans-vie-au-pied-d-une-falaise
This morning rescuers made the gruesome discovery: the lifeless body of a Danish woman aged 38 has indeed been found at the foot of a cliff above the Lake Montriond. The disappearance of this woman living in the region had been reported for several days but it was not until Sunday that the research had been undertaken, involving also the civil helicopter safety, the PGHM gendarmes, firefighters and relief mountain. According to the first elements of the investigation, the hiker would have made a fatal fall.
Did anyone ever find out how it is claimed, the mayor of Doussard, senior majistrate and president of the inter-community ,Jean-Claude Deronzier,
fell off a cliff?
M.
I have been sidetracked from the field of view thing by a spooky similarity between a high level view of Chevaline and a kite.
By ‘kite‘ I mean a desert kite (e.g. as found in Iraq).
From Wikipedia “They are believed to have been used for hunting wild animals and consist of long dry-stone walls converging on a neck which opens into a confined space which was used as the killing floor.”
See the funnel shape in the picture linked above? The forest forms the walls around Chevaline. The neck is the track up the combe.
When it involves crowds in the UK, it is referred to as kettling, isn’t it ?
A trap, entry and exit blocked.
Lure the prey in with some goodies, they can’t go further up and they can’t go back, a lobster pot, or an old fashioned glass bottle to catch wasps …
http://www.rubylane.com/item/980038-1333/3-Early-Blown-Glass-Wasp-Traps
A honey trap.
Honeytraps usually refer to Women Operatives Seducing men
M.
Kettling seems to be more static confinement of demonstrators. Seems to be pretty effective, which on the face of it is odd, as it is the complete opposite of textbook riot control, which emphasises dispersal and breaking up groups.
I see the kite thing as being very different from kettling. It seems to have been used as a hunting ground. Drive the prey into the open end of the funnel and inevitably they end up where you want them, at the killing ground.
Shades of Prof. Wilson and his description of the murder of Frank McPhee (see Parry Chapter 16).
@MN
With a good motorbike, like a BMW, we can make a nice travel between Doussard (Delta Evasion) and Lyon.
http://annecy.takamaka.fr/annecyfrance/DT1347441264/page/Story-tell-l-histoire-de-TAKAMAKA.html
http://lyon.takamaka.fr/
This is only an example,like many others.
Very good Bacchus
Takamaka also does a “murder” party in LYON?
http://lyon.takamaka.fr/lyonfrance/DT1344257009/page/MURDER-PARTY-LYON.html
One of the explanations for MISTERLYON being up the Combe d’Ire is given as pursuing his hoby of parapente.
Have we been told how long he has been a parapentist.
Have we been told had he just landed in the Combe d’Ire.
Have we been told he was about to take off from the Combe d’Ire.
Have we been told he could see parapente taking place from the Combe d’Ire.
I do not think this story stacks up?