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Isn’t this “across the street”
from where one of the forest workers, resides,
meaning this adjacent forest worker would now this carpenter, intimately?
KNOW this Carpenter and his dealings intimately
on google street view it is the huge old building where the drain sucker is outside.
MN
You are more awake than I am this morning! Interesting – had a quick look but am busy with family commitments right now – shall look further later today or tomorrow.
@ MN
The Google StreetView footage was taken in February 2010, before a carpenter opened his workshop there, which he has since moved to Lathuile
http://www.societe.com/etablissements/atelier-bois-et-charpente-510719420.html
As he is still in business, he is obviously not the carpenter
http://www.societe.com/etablissement/atelier-bois-et-charpente-51071942000059-3a.html
As I understand the media reports, all five accused in the Communal-Tournier homejacking, including the carpenter, are gypsies. Call me prejudiced if you like, but circumstance that leads me to assume that he is just a likely lad who knows how to use a hammer and a saw and who used to do a bit of cash-in-hand carpentry work for the locals. He probably did some moonlighting for the Communal-Tournier family as well and got paid in cash, which led him to infer that they had stacks and stacks of moolah in the house.
Peter, he is also known to the Police from previous crimes, looks as if the Flumet and Villard crimes hadn’t resulted in incarceration at the time, probably due to bail at a first hearing.
http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/alpes/haute-savoie/meurtre-de-lathuile-l-auteur-du-coup-de-feu-identifie-parmi-les-5-suspects-461899.html
“Pour la Justice, les malfaiteurs n’ont rien “des pieds nickelés”, c’est “une bande organisée”. Organisée autour d’un homme de 40 ans, charpentier à Doussard, qui connaissait visiblement les gérants du camping de Lathuile, qu’il pensait argenté.
Pour ce “coup”, il s’est entouré de deux complices d’Albertville, avec qui il avait déjà commis des méfaits à Flumet et Villard-sur-Doron, au mois d’octobre. Sont venus s’ajouter à la troupe, deux frères de 22 et 23 ans, originaires d’Ugine. “
This case took over three years to get to court :
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2015/10/08/30-ans-reclames-contre-jordan-lenisa-pour-la-tuerie-de-bozel
And this one :
“Tous les trois sont détenus depuis leurs interpellations, début décembre 2012.”
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2016/01/21/une-serie-de-home-jackings-devant-la-cour-d-assises
Of course the Police could have realised it was the same people committing the crimes in Flumet and Villard after the arrests for NCT murder and armed robbery.
Anyway, looking for court proceedings I found this:
http://www.courdassises.fr/73—role.html
No details posted in Haute-Savoie to offer you ……. as Annecy is in charge of the process, I assume it is Haute-Savoie they’ll have the case heard.
Hearings and General Councel
Wednesday, Jan 20th to Friday, Jan 29th, 2016
Nicole nee Tournier
represented by Maitre Jean Boisson
lawyer Chambery bar.
If you do not count weekends, that’s a ten day slot.
It is a funny old circular world
7ème Bataillon De Chasseurs Alpins – Bourg saint maurice 1990 – 1990
http://copainsdavant.linternaute.com/p/jean-boisson-5993486
we keep coming back to Alpine hunters
MN,it is not Nicole Communal-Tournier, she’s dead, her maiden name was Lacroix :
http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/haute-savoie/2013/11/16/avis-nicole-communal-tournier
M
O.K.
if I’ve misunderstood, from what you have just posted (court)
could you explain?
Just Military Service, which was stopped in 1996, Mollier and his school friends would all have undertaken such.
MN, it is an example of the court proceedings listing, the one for Haute-Savoie has not been submitted:
http://www.courdassises.fr/74—role.html
What you will see by the dates in the Savoie listings is how long serious crimes take to come before a judge.
M
Oh as I do not understand French, I thought you were posting the court appearances for the five criminals who had shot Nicole Tournier?
Is there much of a distinction between Savoie and Haute Savoie
after all, Mallauid works for Savoie?
https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/faits-divers-justice/l-affaire-fabrice-fiorese-devant-les-assises-de-la-savoie-1452508206
Role 1 in Savoie listings concerns this case, you can easily see he is the Partie Civile.
MN, Eric Maillaud is the Procureur for Annecy and Annecy is in the Haute Savoie.
Here is the Procureur for Chambery, Savoie:
http://www.ledauphine.com/savoie/2014/04/22/chambery-le-nouveau-procureur-installe
But the slaughter of the Horses Investigation has been undertaken by Chambéry,
which is the capitol of Savoie?
The enquiry is being run by “parquet d’Annecy”, with the help of “La section de recherche de gendarmerie de Haute-Savoie et l’Institut de recherche criminelle de la gendarmerie” and “Sous la surveillance de la section de recherche de Chambéry, elle devrait faire l’objet d’analyses complémentaires à Rosny-sous-Bois, siège de l’IRCGN” and Surrey and Sussex Police ….you could add in the FBI !!
My comments previously relate to MN’s enquiry regarding the men involved in the armed raid and death of Nicole Communal-Tournier, the ‘delay’ is not unusual, without seeing it listed in one Region or another (Haute-Savoie or Savoie), I can’t comment on where it will take place, most likely would be TGI de Haute Savoie which is in Annecy.
MN
I could be wrong about this* but I think that the gendarmerie in the departments of Savoie and Haute Savoie are handling this case in concert.
As far as I can discern there is not a formally unified major crime team, as is the situation with Surrey and Sussex MCT, rather it looks like an ad-hoc arrangement pulling together ‘researchers’ from Haute Savoie, Savoie and Chambéry.
(*) please post the actual situation, if this is not the case.
The juge d’instruction in both cases is Michel Mollin, he operates from Annecy, with the SR in Chambery handling the research.
It might well be that there are greater resources to be had in Chambery than there are in Haute-Savoie, I can’t comment further.
As far as I can see there isn’t a “section de recherche” in Haute-Savoie, but there is a parquet and there is a Tribunal de Grande Instance (Cours d’assises).
So, keep an eye on the two links I posted above for Savoie and Haute Savoie court cases, you might yet have another year to wait …..
M.
Thanks for ‘clarifying’ matters!
When I posted about coherency breaking down somewhere between Paris and the provinces, I don’t think I was far off…
REGION should read DEPARTEMENT !
The Regions in France have been reduced to 13, the area that covers the two Savoie is now under the banner of Auvergne-Savoie.
M.
Whoa! when did that happen? They didn’t tell me!
Is the department map still drawn and numbered like a snail? Or was that just a schoolboy rumour?
Typing too fast ! Yes, Auvergne-Rhone Alpes.
Here is the new map of France:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2016/01/03/01016-20160103ARTFIG00025-les-nouvelles-regions-c-est-maintenant.php
Departements remain the same, the idea was to reduce the number of employees, it hasn’t.
A rumour …. There are many tales I could tell about snails !
http://www.aidemoi.net/geographie/france/depart.htm
I suppose in every case of murder it should be the best man for the job to solve it, the UK Yard get involved all over the place when required as does the Old Bailey ….
Where will the murderer of the Al-Hilli family and Monsieur Mollier end up, I do hope the most esteemed court in the land and upon incarceration never heard of again. Just wish the UK Press wouldn’t give the Millie Dowler murderer a breath of air let alone column inches, scum.
Milly Dowler, apologies.
The one recent case in the UK I am following is the footballer, 15 year old girls are fully aware of what they are up to, this is wasting court time, treating her as an innocent is ridiculous. It looks as if the DAD can’t accept his daughter was growing up and promiscuous.
Maybe she didn’t get the footballers ‘love’ she desired and dreamed of.
Same goes for the girl who ran off to France with her teacher, he is not a paedophile, just shouldn’t have done it from a position of trust.
‘Lolita’ tells the story so very well !
I believe that in a “short” while
Haute-Savoie & Savoie will become united.
Probably to reduce waste & thus expenditure,
if only they had become one before The Slaughter of the Horses,
it may have been solved by now and the idiot Maillaud would have been down the combe.
They do dither, do they not?
“A FRENCH court will decide on Tuesday whether it is legal for local authorities to evict hundreds of migrants and refugees from the notorious camp in Calais known as the “Jungle” ahead of an 8pm demolition deadline.”
http://www.france24.com/en/20160223-jungle-calais-french-court-eviction