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If, as I assume, the killer fled on foot, he must have heard the sirens of the first responders racing up the Route Forestière Domaniale de la Combe d’Iré. So what did he do next? Did he change along the way, perhaps dump his gun and costume somewhere, and join the crowd of gawkers? Or did he get into a car perhaps parked at the Route Forestière de Chevaline and drive off?
Peter & M.
Via “l’ancienne route forestière dit Près de la Montagne” I’m down with that!
I think he went back to work, at least nominally, (i.e. his occupation) then went home.
@ Good In Parts, 7 Mar, 2016 – 12:21 pm
If you are right, I reckon that he is unlikely to be in what they call a client-facing role 😉
Michael Norton
Article in the Sunday Times by @tomjharper – main section – page 9
Thousands kept on bail for more than a year
The Home Office has revealed that 5,000 people a year are being kept on police bail for more than 12 months…
Peter
I think you are right about that!
As you pointed out upthread, this is effectively “single-source intelligence” so one needs to be careful. Especially if said source keeps on giving tasty morsels, plucked as if from thin air.
The five persons being held in klink for TWO YEARS for the shooting dead of
Nicole Communal-Tournier ought to be seen to be brought to court, “soon”
Hinkley investment decision soon, says EDF chief after finance director resigns
Thomas Piquemal’s departure intensifies the feeling of crisis surrounding the project
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/07/hinkley-investment-decision-soon-says-edf-chief-after-finance-director-resigns
Jean-Bernard Levy said he regretted the “hastiness” of Thomas Piquemal’s departure as finance chief. Piquemal resigned because he believed pursuing the world’s most expensive nuclear project could threaten the group, whose finances are already stretched by rising debt.
Piquemal’s departure increased the feeling of crisis surrounding the Hinkley project
That is the route used to get to the famous waterfall, where it forks there is a track that leads onto the Combe d’Ire.
GIP, if it was ONF1 who saw ‘panniers’ and LMC had topcase, then that is a good starting point, they didn’t see the same MC ten minutes apart.
MN, are you being serious ? The man in the P-R has been found, whether he was the MC seen by ONF1 and WBM is a moot point.
Went back to work, hmm in the Marceaus ?
Or turned up at one of the road blocks, now that is the profile of a psychopath !
M
In my estimation LMC was never there.
This is perhaps why he has to remain unknown, why his likeness cannot be compared with the E-FIT-SKETCH.
I feel fairly certain Eric Maillaud has also been duped.
M
I would add that LMC is likely to be a real person ( to convince the prosecutor)
but he was not at or near the killing place on 05/09/2012
He was brought in after the failure to frame the patsy Eric Devouassoux
One way to expose my imagination on this matter
would be to publish three pictures, side by side by side.
In the middle would be the E-FIT-SKETCH,
one one side would be Eric Devouassoux
on the other LMC
If LMC looks like the E-FIT-SKETCH then my imaginings are idiotic
if however LMC looks nothing like the E-FIT-SKETCH
we have been duped. ( or it really was E.D.)
@ M., 7 Mar, 2016 – 2:00 pm
It is a distance of 1.8 kms from the Martinet down to the point where the Près de la Montagne track joins the Route Forestière Domaniale de la Combe d’Iré. Covering that distance on the Route Forestière Domaniale de la Combe d’Iré would have been very risky for the killer, especially so because the noise of the river would have masked the sound of approaching cyclists or hikers. Thus, I reckon that he either waded through the river for a while or went cross-country in a northwesterly direction before reaching the Près de la Montagne track at the Ruisseau des Landions.
Either way, his intimate knowledge of the local microgeography suggests that he is not only a local, but a local hiker, hunter or mountainbiker.
Peter, there are two sections named ‘Prés de la Montagne’, the second is the track going away from Le Martinet and away from Chevaline.
par l’ancienne route forestière dit Près de la Montagne.
Can’t find a track with the full name as quoted. That second route is far more likely.
@ M., 7 Mar, 2016 – 6:02 pm
I am a bit confused: do you mean the Chemin rural dit Près de la Montagne, which leads south from Route Forestière de Chevaline and forks soon afterwards, with one branch leading to the Cascade du Trou de l’Enfer waterfalls, or the Chemin rural dit de la Montagne, which starts into a south-westerly direction directly from the Martinet, into Janin and mystery-motorcyclist territory?
I always assumed that we were talking about the former, since you also mentioned the waterfalls, and since our International Man of Mystery wrote “Chemin rural dit Près de …”. Your option is physically closer and more logical in that sense, but it doesn’t lead anywhere, or at least not to a place of safety for the killer. Or does it? Conversely, the “dit Près de” option needs the killer to cover some dense woodland off the beaten track at first, but I think that this is where the police tracker dogs picked up his trail. It also makes him a local man (a local hunter, I have decided, with an unregistered P06 as a coup de grâce weapon and who knows exactly what tracker dogs can and cannot do).
M. & Peter
When I ‘went local’ I spent far too much valuable time staring at maps and aerial imagery not to mention ground imagery. I started to see unmarked trails or unofficial footpaths.
One ‘unmarked trail’ that I thought I could see was from the end of the Près de la Montagne track at the Ruisseau des Landions, heading south along the contour line to meet the un-named track near the Ruisseau du Creux de l’Herse. That is the track on the opposite side of the valley to Le Martinet Parking.
It made sense to me that any such ‘community made footpath’ would be an extension of a dead-end track along the easiest ground to join another dead-end track, thus enabling a circular jaunt in the forest.
I doubt it would be called a ‘track’ when viewed from the ground but walking or riding along a contour would, in my view, be preferable to hiking “cross-country in a northwesterly direction before reaching the Près de la Montagne track at the Ruisseau des Landions” as suggested by Peter.
It would be a longer route, considerably longer in fact and counter intuitive in the sense that some parts would be in the ‘wrong’ direction so “intimate knowledge” seems a good description.
If you go a little way down Chemin Rural dit….
on the left hand ( up side)
just after the bridge and small building, there is a red tractor, obscured in the forest.
Maybe the shootist had a timber based occupation?
Michael Norton
Yup, crafting dueling banjos !
At the end of “l’ancienne route forestière dit Près de la Montagne.” exist the Chalet le Rosay
http://www.refuges.info/point/261/cabane-non-gardee/bauges/le-rosay/
Pink
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/not-forgetting-the-al-hillis/comment-page-103/#comment-387027
Bluebird
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/not-forgetting-the-al-hillis/comment-page-103/#comment-387029
Tim V
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/not-forgetting-the-al-hillis/comment-page-103/#comment-387037
Interresting
http://www.20minutes.fr/insolite/1524219-20150123-canada-braqueur-ethiopien-portait-masque-faire-passer-blanc
A simple observation, if any of this gossip is true, it means the Enquiry knows far more about the murderer than the released information to the Press.
Does it also save them from being branded inadequate ?
There is a difference in portability with motorcycle carriers.
Panniers are “often” hard fixed, time consuming to get off, i know more modern ones,
unclip for taking the panniers indoors,
but saddlebags can “usually” be quickly unfixed, put over your head, bag on chest and bag on back, leaving you hands free.
If one motorcycle had panniers yet another motorcycle was see with saddlebags,
that is in my view at least two motorcycles.
If the forest chaps were close enough to spaeak with LMC and look him in the eyes, they would almost certainly have spotted,
panniers or saddlebags, an unmistakable difference to anybody who has ever had anything to do with motorcycles,
which is most men.
I believe a man of the vintage of William Brett Martin, having lived in New Zealand, Sussex, Haute Savoie and having been a pilot in the RAF,
having a slow riding motorcyclist coming towards him and pass him,
would have a perfect picture of that motorcyclist and motorcycle.
This information would have been wrung out of W.B.M.
They will know if this is the same motorcyclist and same motorcycle as closely seen by the ONF person.
There will be NO DOUBT in Maillaud’s mind,
he will KNOW
if there was only ever one motorcyclist/motorcycle or more than one.
Prince William and family holiday in the Haute-Savoie mountains
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/650401/Kate-MiddletonPrince-William-snowball-fight-for-adorable-family-photo
I hope they had their armed protection chaps with them at all times,
this is banjo territory!
@ Good In Parts, 7 Mar, 2016 – 7:34 pm
It made sense to me that any such ‘community made footpath’ would be an extension of a dead-end track along the easiest ground to join another dead-end track, thus enabling a circular jaunt in the forest.
That does indeed makes sense, particularly so because it is not only the local community who make footpaths, but also the local wildlife. Animals are just as lazy as people and will remain “on the beaten track” whenever they can – which means that such tracks are important to hunters.
I spend a lot of time out in the countryside,
often, off the beaten track, you snap eye height twigs/folliage.
The FRENCH police/woodsmen would be able to ascertain the last time twigs we snapped,
so if the shootist made his way, not on any usual track,
this should be obvious to someone who looks.
@ M., 8 Mar, 2016 – 7:44 am
It beats me how Eric Clouseau could seriously have entertained the notion of a paid Yugoslav mercenary arriving in a UK-registered BMW X5, donning his spookiest goth costume and letting rip with a 100-year-old pistol, before vanishing on foot down some obscure footpath that only he and the local wild boars know about 🙂
My humble appologies according to the Daily Mail
it was Courcheval, just South of Albertville/Grignon, Savoie,
I wonder if they needed to pop into a chemist shop?
Peter, do you agree that the early comments were foolishy made, based upon the body count and the very quickly known dispute between the brothers ?
It was an obvious ‘piste’ and they ran with it, almost trying to brush away any local connection, over time there have been other discoveries, for example closing Martinet a few days after re-opening it and a search of a radius of some 4kms.
Badly handled at the outset, certainly, this was an extraordinary situation and the Press were putting huge pressure on Maillaud et al, it is the new way, for Maillaud not a familiar one.
I notice that since then the Procureurs in France have been very careful in their ‘talk’ and even with the GermanWings crash, stated there would be transparency and honesty, so much so that he said he didn’t have ‘that information’ or ‘I don’t know’.
Maillaud has admitted recently he is no longer has the same convictions as he had at the outset.
Maybe there will be some big reveal before he leaves his post sometime this year, it would be what I’d be aiming for in his position, go out on a high !
@ M., 8 Mar, 2016 – 10:28 am
To start with, I cannot assess the reliability of these recent new revelations. Perhaps someone, not necessarily Our Man in Sweden, is celebrating an early 1st April?
Secondly, just how foolish the early handling of the case was depends upon what the investigators knew at which point in time. It also depends upon the motivation behind the information that they chose to reveal. I don’t think that Eric Clouseau is under any moral or legal obligation to keep the press truthfully informed and up-to-date. An unsolved multiple murder with a homicidal maniac still on the loose is not the same thing as a plane crash involving an extended suicide. One must assume that everything Clouseau says is carefully scripted with a view to helping catch the culprit.
Putting ZAH squarely in the frame early on might have seemed like a great way to lull a local suspect into a false sense of security, a suspect whom they probably believed they were very close to catching. Perhaps ZAH is even in on the act, colluding with Clouseau, and that is why he comes across as lying whenever he opens his mouth. Allowing one’s own reputation to be dragged through the mud in order to help catch a killer would be a huge sacrifice, but this is the sort of thing that brothers are supposed to do for each other.