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MN
you probably missed that, too.
http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/savoie/2011/05/03/avis-roger-mollier-7694?Page=7
Suzanne Mollier, son épouse; Alain, Christophe, François, Sylviane, Sylvain, ses enfants et leurs conjoints; ses petits-enfants et son arrière-petite-fille; son frère, Fernand; ses sœurs, Mado Rinaldo et Colette Onteniente; ses beaux-frères et belles-sœurs; tous les parents et amis,
ont la douleur de vous faire part du décès de
Roger MOLLIER
survenu à l’âge de 78 ans.Selon sa volonté, ses obsèques ont eu lieu dans l’intimité familiale.
Thanks Bluebird, yes, I do remember that Eric was perplexed about
the brother of Saad ringing Romania, I thoughtgg that had been disproved?
From your link from page87
Brice Mollier in the local school, Ecole Des Aravis Flumet,
Laetitia Mollier
Maggy Le Brun, Aurelie Ouvrier Buffet, Nathalie Remy ( Ouvrier Buffet)
Damien Ouvrier Buffet,
looks like we are into their nest here in Flumet!!!
MN
Their nest is the skiing region Val d’Arly, particularly Notre Dame de Bellecombe and Saint Nicolas la Chapelle.
However, there is no high school. That’s why they are all going to school in Flumet because there is the nearest school.
As you could see in the post before, the grandmother of Sylvain Mollier was a Ouvrier-Buffet: Hortense Marie Louise OUVRIER BUFFET 1897-1986
MN
fyi
http://gw.geneanet.org/herisson?lang=fr&v=MOLLIER&m=N
If Sylvain Mollier is part of these skiing resort/chalet/land owning types
then maybe he was good enough for the daughter of a chemist shop, maybe he was not just a lowly welder who knows nothing and is unimportant.
this is the genealogy up to SM’s father Roger Mollier. Good overview.
http://gw.geneanet.org/herisson?lang=fr;pz=heidi+francoise;nz=herisson+garin;ocz=0;p=roger+andre;n=mollier
I Am sure we have been told that Eric Devouassoux owned multiple properties in this skiing area and was also related to the family Ouvrier Buffet.
They be mountain men in them hills.
@MN: It was said in the media that Zaid’s maid made those phone calls. “It was said.” How big is this place that Zaid lives in that he has a maid? Lifestyles of the rich and infamous.
Mysterious drones still flying over Nuclear sites in France, I wonder if it is
The Mysterons
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/01/uk-nuclear-e-d-f-drones-idUKKBN0IL2YG20141101
An accident occurred that night at 2 am on the 36 D 1005 Post. For still unknown reasons,
two cars collided. The violence of the shock, a motorist 35 years old
was seriously injured. Firefighters Evian and Thonon have disincaserated the victim.
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2014/11/01/un-blesse-grave-sur-la-d-1-005
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/frances-mystery-nuclear-plant-drones-edf-reports-new-sightings-over-penly-golfech-1472568
A motorist was seriously wounded by screwdriver 15 to 11 am Sunday at Grenoble during an altercation between motorists on the exit ramp of the A 480 Bachelard located at the stadium.
According to preliminary information gathered locally by the Dauphiné Libéré, two drivers had an altercation on the A 480, and when the first took the exit ramp, he was followed by the second. While both vehicles were stopped at the red light, the second is out of the van, armed with a screwdriver and hit his opponent in the chest in front of his 18-month-installed at the rear of the car .
Leaving the van on site, the author blows then fled on foot. It is still being sought at this time. The wounded man was rescued by firefighters and the ambulance and was transported to hospital. Police opened an investigation.
Those firefighters seem to get to incidents in advance of the regular police.
Doesn’t say much for the police.
About the shooter Matthew Voisin, from Bellavaux, Haute-Savoie
is it really true that the police have released this man,
until his court case?
If so that is astonishing because there is a “possiblity” he is a multiple killer.
Murder solved more than two years after the fact
Thursday, October 16, 2014 at 15:40
Last Monday, a 32 year old man was arrested at his home Bellevaux. He was the author of the shot that May 12, 2012 fatally injured Marcel Desbiolles. The septuagenarian was shot in the chest while he was in his garden. Man arrested says he realizing anything.
The survey was conducted by the police of the Research Section of Chambery. © Fotolia.com
During his 42 hours in custody, the alleged murderer Marcel Desbiolles told the police that two and a half years, despite numerous press articles on this news item at any time “he did the reconciliation. “The case dates back to May 12, 2012. That day, Matthew Voisin, now 32 years old, wants to test the new ammunition he purchased for his gun. However, the shooting of the town of Armoy is closed. The hunter then sees a target in a straw yard and opened fire. “That’s all,” he says. According to his statement, he did not realize he was injured Marcel Desbiolles.
Punishable by five years in prison
If the accidental nature “is no doubt, however the lack of awareness seems hard to believe,” admits a source familiar with the matter. To go back to the shooter imprudent, investigators have relied on such munitions used, unusual, long distance balls. Matthew Voisin, an employee of the company Evian Water was indicted for manslaughter with the aggravating nature of failure to assist a person in danger. He faces up to five years in prison. While awaiting trial, he was released and placed under judicial supervision.
http://www.francebleu.fr/infos/infos/haute-savoie-un-meurtre-elucide-plus-de-2-ans-apres-les-faits-1856322
So Matthew Voisin who works at Evian, ( near the fatal shooting address)
only ever shoots his gun once into the victims garden.(victim Marcel Desbiolles)
Yet this Matthew Voison lives in Bellavaux, which is a wilderness area.
In two years, he never returns to this site ( close to his work)
and never hears of a man being shot dead in his garden ( close to his work)
Sorry, just not at all believable.
Just have to say, it must be something in the water.
Could this be a relative of Matthieu Voisin? Seems possible.
http://www.yadvashem-france.org/les-justes-parmi-les-nations/les-justes-de-france/dossier-8326/
Distinguished families might have some influence in the Haute-Savoie, especially a family that has been recognized for humanitarian efforts in helping Jews escape to Switzerland to escape the Nazis during WWII. They might even have a few old relics from the war still kicking around in the attic.
Thanks for that information Q
Madeleine Voisin, born 1896, Sallanches,
took over from her husband ( after he left for Switzerland)
distributing literature of The Resistance and hiding Jews, an impressive looking woman.
She is of an age to be young Matthews great, great, grandmother.
http://www.yadvashem-france.org/medias/documents/LEssor%20savoyard.pdf
Forgot to mention, the husband of Madeleine was a doctor, who did work for the Resistance, they already had ten children by the start of the war, yet after her husband left for Switzerland, she took in Jews, pretty strong woman.
Certainly someone to be very proud of if she was your ancestor.
Also of interest the brothers Voisin, who were early aviators and plane builders, supplying aircraft for The First World War, they were from Belleville-sur-Saone
Their firm went on to be luxury car builders.
The Voisin name is still in Annecy, and considering that the habit of passing names on to future generations still exists in this place, here are some potential relatives of Madeleine Voisin and/or the car makers:
http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/haute-savoie/2014/02/25/avis-raphael-voisin (note in comments that this was some sort of brutal death, with services held in the strictest privacy: “I think you left so brutal so unfair, so painful.”; “I am so unhappy you did not have the right to leave us, I am malade.Ta disappearance is a shock to many personne.pourquoi ????????”)
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://books.google.ca/books%3Fid%3D4qPtHF8MAVoC%26pg%3DPA402%26lpg%3DPA402%26dq%3D%2522andre%2Bvoisin%2522%2Bannecy%26source%3Dbl%26ots%3D3hUW0q7iwg%26sig%3Dozg87BTfADBUCMs9i50vNDZ9ePo&prev=search
You will find the names Andre and Raphael here, in relation to the car makers:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=m1aPPxnaL54C&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=Rapha%C3%ABl+VOISIN&source=bl&ots=yHPTCfuoCR&sig=WgVj58quTp89-qMIN3I0mbv9604&hl=en&sa=X&ei=86lWVJO_BIyzogS1p4KABA&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAzgU#v=onepage&q=Rapha%C3%ABl%20VOISIN&f=false
Andre Voisin was a maquisard leader.
“Avis de décès de Pierre VOISIN
Mme Marcelle Voisin, son épouse; Annie et Hans Van Tol, Noëlle et Samir Abassi, ses enfants; Hedi et Sara-Lisa, ses petits-enfants; M. et Mme André et Huguette Voisin, Mme Vve Abel Voisin, Mme Josette et Fred Viart, ses frères et sœurs et leurs enfants; Mme Arlette Guérraz, sa cousine; les familles Voisin, Viart et Bouvier, ont le regret de vous faire part du décès de
Pierre VOISIN ancien d’AFN
survenu le 2 mai 2014, dans sa 82e année. La cérémonie religieuse sera célébrée le lundi 5 mai à quatorze heures trente en l’église de Saint-Jorioz, suivie de l’inhumation au cimetière ancien de Saint-Jorioz. Ni fleurs ni plaques. Cet avis tient lieu de faire-part.
Duingt”
http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/haute-savoie/2014/05/03/avis-pierre-voisin?Page=1
“Avis de décès de Raphaël VOISIN
Lucas, son fils et sa maman; André et Huguette Voisin, ses parents; Pascal et Martine Voisin, son frère et sa belle-sœur; Amandine et Raphaël et leur fils Evan, Antoine et Emilie, ses neveux et nièces; Pierre et Marcelle Voisin et leurs enfants; Abel (†) et Monique Voisin et ses enfants; Josette et Fred Viart et leurs enfants; les familles Voisin, Barat, Curt, Lary, ont la douleur de vous faire part du décès de
Raphaël VOISIN
survenu le 21 février 2014 à l’âge de 43 ans. La cérémonie et la crémation ont eu lieu dans la plus stricte intimité familiale.
Annecy
From: http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/haute-savoie/2014/02/25/avis-raphael-voisin”
So they are related, but are they related to Matthieu Voisin?
The services and burial for Pierre took place in Saint-Jorioz. He seems to have lived in Duingt. He was a soldier who served in North Africa.
There is a Pascal Voisin at Route Du Tres Clos, Les Vernes, MAXILLY SUR LEMAN. This is a few minutes away from Evian.
So now we have a surname with a connection to Switzerland in WWII. The surname is connected to the Maquis of WWII, and to an Annecy woman who helped smuggle Jews out of France to Switzerland in WWII. We have a connection to the same town where the al-Hillis stayed at a campground, and a connection to North Africa. We have a connection to the Evian area, where strange shootings seem to be ongoing.
Are these people with the surname Voisin connected to Matthieu Voisin, the gun enthusiast questioned in relation to a fatal shooting in 2012?
Pascal Voisin runs a guest house.
Plus that.. The rich and famous lical families are all intermarried
http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/haute-savoie/2007/12/22/avis-marie-louise-mollier?imprimer=true
M. Jean Mollier, son époux; Michelle, Marie-Claude, Pierre et leurs conjoints, ses enfants; Nicolas, Laure, Julien et leurs conjoints, ses petits-enfants; Roman, son arrière-petit-fils; Jeanne Routex et son époux, sa soeur et son beau-frère; ses neveux, nièces, cousins, cousines; les familles Mollier, Voisin, Curt, Routex, Convers, Bocquet et ses amis
ont le chagrin de vous faire part du décès de
Marie-Louise MOLLIER
née VOISIN survenu le 21 Décembre 2007 à l’âge de 85 ans. La cérémonie religieuse sera célébrée en l’église de Saint-Jorioz le lundi 24 décembre 2007, à quatorze heures trente, suivie de l’inhumation dans le caveau familial. Pas de plaques. Condoléances sur registre. Cet avis tient lieu de faire part.
Saint-Jorioz,Annecy-le-Vieux,Boussy
this is the husband of marie-louise voisin, jean mollier, who died a few years later.
http://www.libramemoria.com/avis/le-dauphine/haute-savoie/2010/01/11/avis-jean-mollier?Page=8
this is their son pierre mollier, historian and chef de maison d’orient (savoie freemasonry, templars)
http://www.jlturbet.net/2014/03/2cal1-templiers-et-francs-macons-le-14-mars-avec-pierre-mollier-et-jacques-fleurance.html
Their son Pierre Mollier:
Pierre Mollier le Cavailler is a French historian, born in Lyon in 1961. A graduate of “Sciences Po” (Institut d’Études Politiques de Paris), he holds a Masters degree in Religious Studies (École pratique des hautes études, section V, La Sorbonne), and is the director of the library, archives and museum for theGrand Orient de France (Musée de la Franc-Maçonnerie). He is a specialist in the history of Freemasonry, covering both social and political fields, as well as philosophical and spiritual topics. He has researched the links between Freemasonry and the power in France under Napoleon (1800–1815) and during the Third Republic (1870–1940). As an expert in the history of Masonic rites, he has also researched the various aspects of the symbolic imagery (guild marks, heraldry, emblems). Editor-in-chief of the symbolic and Masonic review, Renaissance Traditionnelle, of the on-line Journal Ritual, Secrecy, and Civil Society he co-directs the Chroniques d’Histoire Maçonnique. He also contributes to several other reviews, including Politica Hermetica and La Phalère. Furthermore, he is an expert on and biographer of French painterFrançois-Jean Garneray (1755–1837), one ofJacques-Louis David’s first students. He was named officer in the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres by the French Ministry of Culture.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Mollier
http://www.lessorsavoyard.fr/Actualite/Annecy/2010/03/31/article_plus_de_1_000_francs_macons_attendus_a_l.shtml
http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2013/05/29/le-grand-orient-se-dit-scandalise-dans-l-affaire-du-cure-franc-macon
So then it seems that the families Voisin and Mollier rule the french freemasonry and loge grand orient de france.
Therefore they are “untouchables”.
Marie-Claude Mollier has an address in St. Jorioz. Her neighbours are pierre voisin and andre voisin.
http://www.annuairetel247.com/mollier-marie-claude-saint-jorioz-rte-moulins
she has an address in chambery, too.