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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • Q

    @NR: Decomposition would make identification from photos next to impossible, if it were that far gone. You mean to say they didn’t even involve a forensic dentist?

  • Q

    @all: With all the travelling that family did, who’s to say which time zone the camera was set to, or if it was left on the factory settings? Ah, of course, a man as detail-oriented as SAH (we can tell by the state of his back garden) would have adjusted it whereever he went. What is that old saying about a mechanic’s own car being the one most in need of repair? I recall a case involving a video surveillance camera, where the owner told the press after the police had left that the camera time was off by an hour and fifteen minutes or so, because he didn’t bother to reset it during summer time changes, and didn’t bother to worry about the 15 minutes in any case. I don’t know if he told the police that important piece of information, or if they read about it in the news.

    @NR: That link to the interconnected corporate entities underlines again how they work together on various components of the same projects, even though they are competitors. Another part of the picture is the governments or corporations that pay them to do this work. The whole EADS/BAE merger question that was in the news at the time of the al-Hilli fiasco is important information. There is no doubt that large amounts of money are at stake in the satellite business/

    And finally, further thoughts on al-Hilli Sr.’s “gypsum factory”:

    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf30.html

    I suppose a “gypsum factory” could be seen in much the same light as a “welder”.

  • Q

    Oh, James, don’t tell me the beautiful French countryside has hillbillies. What would the term be in French, anyways?

  • Q

    I’m still reflecting on the fact that Iqbal’s husband and sister (via her post-graduate research supervisor) have both done research at Rutherford Appleton and that Iqbal’s father-in-law could have been involved in the making of alloys or other uses of gypsum (http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf30.html) in his so-called “gypsum factory”, and that a “welder” *ahem* was at the scene of the crime.

  • Q

    Re: Gypsum

    “Calcium is used as a deoxidizer to remove oxygen from iron and steel in their production and in the production of copper and copper alloys. Calcium is used as a constituent in lead alloys used for bearings and the sheaths for electric cables. Calcium is also used in aluminum alloys.

    Calcium is one of the big 8 elements in the Earth’s crust, being the fifth most abundant element at about 3.6% by weight. In nature, calcium occurs in the form of gypsum, which is calcium sulfate CaSO4.2H2O . Gypsum is used widely for wallboard and for conversion into plaster of Paris. Plaster of Paris is created by heating gypsum to a little above 100°C where it loses three-quarters of its water of hydration and becomes the powdered substance CaSO4. 1/2 H2O.”

    From: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pertab/ca.html

  • Felix

    Just catching up. I tend to agree with Kathy/Straw that the photos , if they actually exist, were taken as cover. Especially for an extraction. And we won’t ever see them. Or they don’t exist and “they” are desperately trying to beef up the official narrative a month later knowing that Bill has been rumbled. How did they know granny took them?
    @Suhayl – excellent analysis this morning.

    Lots of people at the Hare Lane dental practice,I see, for the Daily Mail, BBC and other “investigative jouranalists” to get their microphones onto re Ikbal…

    I really think now that SM was offed. Behaviour of Mollier / Schutz families now very odd. They are not protesting his innocence, rather burying the whole matter. Silenced? No reason to extract him…

  • bluebird

    There is the reuters link. Released sept 21st about something that was going on for a year. Attack banks and they will kill you. Note the press release date! If he were a hacker in his spare time, well, perhaps hacking some money for himself, too, and shipping it to swiss banks in cash? Just a thought.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE88K12H20120921?irpc=932

    This was not my first guess but it would explain involvement of both intelligence services and private investigator and perhaps killing commandos funded by rothschild, warburgs & co.

  • dopey

    There’s going to be thousands of families wiped out then if they’re now bumping off all the hackers instead of just jailing them.

  • Q

    SAH was supposed to have been trying to regain his family’s property in Iraq. That “gypsum factory” could have been useful if someone needed calcium to make nuclear missiles.

  • Q

    Do France and the UK have Defence Metallurgical Development Laboratories, and where would they be located?

  • bluebird

    James

    I dont favour that theory. I just wonder what they found on his computers when they raided his house. Perhaps he had just the necessary information stored to track the disturbance caused by the hackers. I simply became alerted by the date of that press release. Perhaps coincidence?

  • Felix

    I guess the French police are working backwards to fit the available evidence to pad out the story. Nothing provable.

    No efforts have been made by UK “investigative journalists” to find the East Sussex couple who owned the house where the builders were working, I notice.

  • Thomas

    @Felix 14 Oct, 2012 – 5:29 am

    “M Saleh Suhaila” is the complete first name. Don´t know why one of the names is just an “M”

    @Felix14 Oct, 2012 – 2:27 am

    Here is the family of Suhailas brother in Huddinge;
    http://www.ratsit.se/BC/SearchSimple.aspx?Where=Gustav+Adolfsv%e4gen+39

    The brother of Suhaila is 61, married with a woman 58 year.
    The son ( = Suhailas nephew ) is 18.

    So it fits re age.

    Looks like the first name of the nephew is a mix of swedish/arabic, so they might have lived in Sweden for at least 18 years.

  • James

    I did track what I believe is the journey that was taken.
    As you leave Chevaline on head towards the forest road, there is one “business chap” type house on the left.
    Looks a rebuild. Very charming.

    Peter did mention you have to double back…but you don’t at all.
    My post is above somewhere.
    I stuck the route in…and it maps you along chemin rural de chevaline.

    The last house is clearly there. Now if there is a “192” or land search in France…then there should be a name.

  • Katie

    As a back filler for the efficiency [?] of the French police.

    Does anyone remember the murder of a young English girl who was staying in a youth hostel in Brittany , about 10 years ago ?

    That happened in the next village, about 10 minutes away from where I am now living, I knew an English lad , in his 20’s, who worked in that village at the Peugeot garage……

    The French police never finger printed or even interviewed him !

    Eventually a Spanish waiter was caught in Spain, about a year later.

  • Felix

    @Thomas
    thanks. Seems ok now.
    The silence of the Swedish authorities is alarming. Allegedly, an citizen has been murdered in horrific and unexplained circumstances and there is hardly any news.

  • James

    Thomas…

    Yep, I think that is the cahp thats quoted in a news report.
    He said SAH and family had visited them in Stockholm.

  • James

    …and to add to my “route” post.
    The news report said they are looking for a motorbike on the pass.
    That is “further along” from the carpark…not back down the forest route.

    Did Billy say a motorbike past him ?
    That would be impossible

  • bluebird

    Thomas

    Saleh is a male name.

    The given name must be on first place. There is something wrong with that name. A female name can never be on third rank in an arabic name.

    So it could be if the given name of that woman was suhaila that her name is:

    Suhaila M Saleh al Allaf.

    Suhaila is the given name
    M could stand for Mohammed or for Mahmood etc. That would be the name of her father. Saleh on third position would be the name of her grandfather and al Allaf is the name of her fathers family/tribe. However, since Suhaila is a female name, it must be on first position. A female name can never stand anywhere behind the first position.It is completely wrong and would never be accepted.

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