Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • bluebird

    Katie 8:42 am

    I totally agree. Those people have to be quiet because they know too much about the crimes of our banks, crimes of our politicians and the crimes of our richest. However, this is unrelated to our case as you know. Except that killers are often killed as well to destroy the roots to the organising mafia.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    Utter rubbish! You FEEL and you FEEL. The one is head of state- the other is an engineer in a low level position.

    You are constantly trying to steer focus away from the ruthless Zionist regime in the worlds last colony – doomed to go to the scrapheap of history sooner or later, like all other corrupt ideologies – Marxism, Nazism springs to mind.

    And that has always been my point: If the bloody regime in that shitty state is going away soon anyway, why do we accept all the injustices towards the indigeneous populations in the Middle East [Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan (not allowed to build a nuclear plant for electricity generation), Egypt (humiliated in 1967), Iraq, Iran (wrecked by sanctions and not allowed to develop industrially) – all of which again and again has been stummied in their natural development by Israel] and corruptness (Israel is one of the mots corrupt countries, from which criminals cannot be extradited) .

  • Katie

    Morning Bluebired.

    It makes sense for a hitman to be killed after doing the dirty deed because he could turn on his masters & blackmail them…. which then begs the question how does the hitman’s killer get to the top position ?

    The only answer can be is that he’s above the law……state sponsored, any attempts at blackmail & they know what would happen ?

  • bluebird

    On a political and topographic view of the al saffar and al allaf families it is interesting to see that their family members are in top positions organising and supporting and promoting the recent arab uprises.

    Al saffar have basic links to bahrein and saudi arabia uprises.

    Al allafs basic home is syria and the most promoting and perhaps even funding party of the syrian uprise is al allaf. Why are exactly those two families always linked to uprise in arab countries? CIA?

    And what does this guy do in Damascus at these times?
    “my name is Shady Al-Allaf. I’m a 29 year-old American male, currently in Damascus, Syria, but I live in Lebanon,United States. I have 93 friends around the world.”

    http://www.wayn.com/profiles/ShadyAl-Allaf?cxc=destination

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    There are very many Al-Allaf’s and Al-Sallaf’s. If many of them are symphatetic to the current uprisings in The Middle East, that is a good thing*, and you could very well find yourself on the wrong side of history (as well as being party to something much more sinister) if you insist on sorting out who is who and where they have been when.

    *) Now we just need the Palestinian to rise op too and to cleanse out their oppressors, and I think all honest men and women should support this just undertaking in the name of Freedom.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    Why will any of this “spring into our eyes”? I think your are a fundamentalist Irishman, seeing your own religion as superior to Islam, and automatically assumes that its adherents are on to some dodginess.

    It reminds me of someone on a Danish forum who has always been the most ardent opponent to all things muslims. i found out that he is Polish of origin, and Polish and Irish is similar in his respect, bout devout catholic, and if you live in England now you see these people in Kingston as competitors.

  • Katie

    Sorry BB, I missed that, I was doing some other search when I found it.

    What a motley lot they are !

  • Katie

    I don’t ‘do’ FB , but joined sometime ago to checkout someone. The only name that leapt out was Lichfield ?

  • bluebird

    Yes katie. The same lot like the FED an the World Economic Forum.
    However, this website is not up to date as many of its listed members had died long ago.

  • Katie

    Kenneth I do wish you would stick to the topic……….which has nothing to do with religion !

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    The same lot like the FED

    The Federal Reserve Bank?. What is this suppose to mean? Surely the Americans have to organise their monetary matters in some way.

    I don’t see anything their Central Bank has done that is that much worse than any European equivalent has done. On the contrary their record is much better when it comes to supporting growth. Also think about how the USA have acted as locomotive for global growth on so many occasions, and how we all have benefitted, whereas the same CANNOT AT ALL be said of the ECB.

  • bluebird

    No katie

    Bashar al assad is the name he is interested in.
    Why would an al allaf who is american citizen go to syria at these violent times? Interested in assad …. Well … Good luck then!

    Btw for those who research family links: particularly those shias who grow up in the USA delete their “al” in front of their surnames for various reasons. Shias from the usa family branches will call themselves often just “Allaf” or “Saffar” without that “al”. Likely they have american passports without an “al” as well.

  • bluebird

    Kenneth learn history! The Fed is American? Oh well. Officially yes. Just as much like the Queen of of Great Britain is an Australian governor.

    I dont get you. Periodically you spam us with your antisemitic neonazi BS and at other times you defend a Jewish institution like it is the Fed as something positive. You must learn a lot about history, kenneth. As s first lesson, check google for tge names Warburg, Rothschild (Bauer) and the Bank of England. Perhaps you might understand more about the Fed in 24 hours if you are willing to learn.

    And please dont waste my time with your neonazi BS again. This is the wrong forum because we are here to solve a riddle of a crime.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    I for sure am not going to study the FED the way you suggested. The Americans decide for themselves how they organise their monetary matters. And the way they have done this speaks for itself. It has been much more effective in accomodating growth than anything seen in Europe — who again and again have been reliant on the Americans taking the lead as locomotive for global growth — and we have all benefitted enormously from that since The Second World War. then there have been some hiccups, like the accumulation of Federal debt since the early 80’s and the abolishment of the
    Glass-Stegall Act *- which seems like a mistake, but it is up to them to sort this out.

    —-
    *) {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act}

  • Katie

    Once BB, again we see GMH are in Syria.

    Syria
    Incorporation of the Horizon Investment & Development Group with a paid up capital of US$ 25 Million

    No doubt getting ready to rebuild with their construction co.

    As for the AAO they are a joke, funded & patronised by Saudi & UK royals but it does nothing but a paint class & even that is years old.

    http://www.paintingandpatronage.com/en/component/content/article/219-the-prince-of-wales-visits-painting-a-patronage-workshops

    {http://newpoliticsreview.wordpress.com/tag/anglo-arab-organisation}

    “Mr Auchi is fiercely protective of his reputation and has used libel lawyers Carter-Ruck to force several newspapers and blogs to remove references to his activities. Despite Lord Steel’s approaches, Mr Lamb raised this issue in a Commons debate on libel in December 2008: “It is alleged that Mr Auchi and his lawyers, Carter Ruck, have been making strenuous efforts to close down public debate.”

    This is a man who would ‘anything’ to keep hobnobbing with the elite

  • bluebird

    Kenneth. This is getting off topic. The only relation of the FED with the USA is the matter of fact that they are issuing the US$ and that they are located in the USA. Other than that the FED is a state in the state and not dependent on american laws, jurisdiction and policy. Not even the president has got any power in regards to the fed. He cannot even s look into their files and not entering their properties if the fed does not want.

    The fed has more relation to the bank of england than to the government of the usa. As a matter of fact the FED is the inofficial governor of the USA while it is not the president. He is not much more than a muppet of the fed.

    It is a matter of fact that the FED, the bank of england and the world economic forum rule tge world and control our destiny. We dont know too much about le cercle, though.

  • Peter

    Apparently, the 4×4 has *not* been ruled out as an ONF vehicle after all
    {http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9608150/British-family-pictured-smiling-minutes-before-Alps-shooting.html}
    Mr Maillaud renewed his appeal for the driver of a green 4×4 vehicle seen speeding towards the scene by Mr Martin to come forward, suggesting the car might have belonged to the national forestry office. Mr Maillaud added: “It’s a theory but there is no certainty.”
    LePoint reports the same in French {http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/tuerie-de-chevaline-des-photos-d-une-famille-detendue-prises-avant-le-drame-14-10-2012-1516746_23.php}

  • Katie

    So in short, we have a ‘charity’ organisation which does nothing EXCEPT open doors & can take you into the top echelons of Arab & British society under that pretext, perfect for intelligence agents.

    A man going into such places to discuss wars,uprisings,coups,hits would not be under suspicion……..LoL !

  • Katie

    Peter surely that must be the black Pajero……driven by the now deceased Fredric Brun ?

    Not green but dark.

    Have the police not joined the dots…..silly question.

  • Peter

    @ Katie

    Why *must* that *surely* be the black Pajero? I should think that in those parts, 4x4s are the default choice of car.

  • Ricki Tarr

    Where would Saad’s employment history in Dubai be logged, ive searched the net and got nothing? it must be traceable somewhere?

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    It would be typical for this Arab Metropolis (with many dealings with Iran – and where Israeli hitmen operated in the most despicable fashion a couple of years ago — not to be so stupid as to lay everything out of the net. As is the case everywhere in the Arab world things are done face to face, and they don’t see — in my view quite correctly — why some bloke in middle england should be able to dig anything up from their affairs.

    By the way try the same in Israel, and see how far you can get by researching details in people private lives.

  • intp1

    How hard can eliminating forestry vehicles/personnel be? (after 2 weeks)
    Simply round up all vehicles and deposition all staff and management re where they and the (handful?) of vehicles were on the day. Job done by day 2?

  • Ricki Tarr

    Im getting pee’d off with the French investigation team! no wonder Mi6 wash their dirty Laundry here! I think if wed have had access to the information they have we would have solved it by now and we’d all be sat at Brett’s holiday home sharing a few beers!

    Snails pace!

  • Ricki Tarr

    @Int your not wrong it would probably take 10 mins, eliminate all forest commission number plates………….jobsagoodun!

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