The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Look at this,some new snippets, no mention of blood on shoes & a nice photo of the house where photos were taken.
“Sand and gravel has been found on the soles of Mr al-Hilli’s shoes, proving that he was outside the car.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4600767/sun-visits-murder-scene-of-saad-al-hill-and-family-in-alps.html#ixzz2AEzZepi2
Sand and gravel on shoes: how unusual!
@Katie – I’ve deleted the duplicates of your 7:05pm post, which was the first of three; if something gets caught in moderation, it’ll be released eventually.
“If people are reported killed, they have to have funerals. In general, can funerals be faked? How easy would that be?”
If, as was reported, close relatives open the coffin to turn the deceased’s head towards Mecca nigh on impossible.
Thanks Jon. Your filter doesn’t like ‘blood’ !
I was experimenting to see how I could get it through without moderation,sorry to have bothered you…..
@Kempe
reported is a word which runs throughout this saga. What do we believe?? Do you believe BM for instance??
@Ferret
It will soon be time for William Brett to sign off the Silver Fern (Sussex) Ltd accounts for y/e 2012, following the boom period of lettings at Lathuile thanks to the excellent publicity website designed by Mays. When he trails up from the Sussex Coast, which signature form will he use? I am curious.
Q, what a scoop eh? Sand & gravel on shoes shows the man had walked……..somewhere at sometime !
More questions the BBC could have asked Dr Al-Saffar
Did Mrs Al-Allaf do a PhD at Queen Mary College in the 70s in London??
When did Mrs Al-Allaf emigrate to Sweden, and when did she receive citizenship?
What job did she do in Sweden?
“Unfortunately I don’t have time to do this but hopefully readers will beware of taking what you write at face value and will do their own research.”
There’s not one shred of evidence to link Hershkkovitz with the murders. It can’t even be established that he was out of Israel at the time. Likewise there’s no evidence Simon Hayward was “Soldier A”, with the serious injury to his hand he’d be an unlikely recruit for the SAS and the same officer was involved in the killing of two PIRA men in October 1990; a full two years after Hayward was obliged to resign his commission.
@Katie/Q
How did the Sun newspaper know which house the family had allegedly been photographed outside?
katie
Thanks for the Sun link.
The Sun? Another false flag. Xavier Baligant? Was Mihaela with Sylvain Mollier, too?
I would just say: The Sun presents a false flag and Mihaela Baligant wasn’t the killer of Saad and Mollier.
http://www.republicain-lorrain.fr/actualite/2012/03/16/affaire-xavier-baligant-une-nouvelle-piste
Okay, Ferret aka Simon and James, your statistics about gun ownership, and acquaintance with the use of guns in the USA is about 100% off with 40% of Americans owning guns, and about 80% knowing how to use them.
So, the chances of Hershy being a poor, defenseless Jewish mama’s boy are just about zero.
Ah well you see Felix, the Sun sent a reporter over to snoop . No doubt he fished around & ……got the wrong house !
There are no flowers there its all creeper .
Bluebird, they are desperate to write something different.
I’ve been thinking about the running car engine , it was during a hot spell of weather, could it be they had they cooling fan or aircon on ,it would explain why all the windows were closed, because with five people inside it would have been very stuffy otherwise .
Does this mean anything, a page from google images & OUR Sylvian Mollier is there ?
sorry here’s the page.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvnsuo&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=jj2IUP-WGeTX0QWg2YHwBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1115&bih=490&q=burial%20of%20saad%20al%20hilli&orq=burial+of+saad++al+hilli
Or why SAH tried to park as close to the trees to get some shade.
Katie
Xavier baligant was working for british pharma company GlaxoSmithKline.
In feb 2007 the uk launched an investigation into allegations of GSK being involved in the discredited oil for food sanctions regime in Iraq. They are accused of paying bribes to Saddams regime to Saddams London agents.
That is getting interesting now. Katie i believe that we were on the right track with mr.x
Oh my, here is the same pic in an article about him.
http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/authorities-believe-sylvain-mollier-the-french-cyclist-was-the-target-of-the-alps-shooting-22393/
Katie
Bingo!
http://m.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/feb/14/iraq.oilandpetrol?cat=business&type=article
I knew the story of XB BB, but I didn’t know about the UK inquiry, wow, the noose is getting tighter !
What a load of crap about Captain Simon Hayward aka Captain James Rennie, Kempe.
Any poster wanting the lowdown on Hayward should read his Under Fire: My Own Story, Father Raymond Murray’s The SAS in Ireland, Tony Geragthy’s The Irish War, and Rennie’s The Operators.
They all show that Hayward built a career in the 14 Intelligence Company’s South Detachment as its OP who directed the assassinations of Bradley and Palme, only to be stopped by ‘Steak Knife’ aka DUKE when he crossed wires with what the FRU-MI5 was attempting through him with that shipment of Libyan arms on the Eksund.
The long brim on that baseball cap still fits the helmet thought from the latest heli photo.
If the relevance of the hat being his didnt dissuade our thoughts my percentage of it being the cap on the dash would be 60/40 in favour. Colour, shape, size & logo all fits the overhead photos and the only photo of any Sylvain Mollier is wearing it.
There must be a way of us confirming thru a French version of 192, announcement of marriages or births etc whether they are one and the same.
Read the link above. We are in the middle of princes gate addresses there.
Princes gate55 is mr.x
Incredible BB. What about this as a facilitator, it’s part of the GMH group:
http://www.meditechuk.org/Services%20Pharma.htm
Bluebird
Sorry to be dense Dluebird, but who is Mr X? Can you give me a clue?
Is Mr X the untouchable one who gets internet history erased about him? Or another one?
Katie
I think that it is getting exciting when we can link the princes gate fraud companies mentioned in the guardian if they still exist. I guess we are very close to what we wanted to know. Probably closer than maillaut.
Yes I agree Straw,it’s looking very likely now, he would have taken it off & that would be the logical place to put it.
Mr x is mr. Unspeakable. Yes dopey. We cannot write his name. But we know who he is.
Yes Dopey the same !