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The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?

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  • Katie

    Senior management in GSK.

    Abbas Hussain (President – Emerging Markets);

    http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=69630590&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=Uh3-&locale=en_US&srchid=f05d58c9-b386-43bb-b00a-cb81f85c1064-1&srchindex=55&srchtotal=128&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Abbas_Hussain_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_6_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_CC%2CN%2CG%2CI%2CPC%2CED%2CL%2CFG%2CTE%2CFA%2CSE%2CP%2CCS%2CF%2CDR_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link

    Iraq.

  • bluebird

    Katie

    Sm – french part of the smuggling trail. Whatever they smuggled it was going on for a decade. I have no answer about the “why”. Perhaps they were going to whistleblow or they were trying to blackmail with their knowledge about the smuggling trail and the people connected.

    Perhaps we are not even far from the smuggling trail that was craig murray’s destiny. Mr.x has contacts to russia, too. Smuggling import/export business.

  • bluebird

    To be clear

    The key people in professional smuggling business do not carry the goods nor do they drive trucks, private planes or ships. They deal with contact people. E.g. Depositing money or diamonds or platinum in a bank box in geneve and bringing the key to the contact person. The contact person orders the trucks to start once he took the money or diamonds from the bank depot with that key. Another guy deposits the diamonds in antwerp (belgium) or the money goes into money laundering businesses such as betting and casinos. I dont think that SAH or granny did transport anything else than a key from geneve if they really smuggled. However if they were going to blackmail perhaps they sorted put documents that they had picked up in geneve earlier that day.

  • bluebird

    Katie

    There are quite a lot pharmacists and doctors in both families. Drugs are closely related to pharmacists and would not really make any attention when smuggled as pills or medicine in proper official covers and packages back from where the originals got delivered earlier. Do we believe that customs does a chemical analyses of e.g. Anti depressiva in original covers? I doubt so.

  • Felix

    AstraZeneca – who worked for them until a recent departure? Ahmad Al-Hilli (and there’s another Hilli still there in Sodertalje, Sweden too). I see too many pharamacists here. Will look at Princes Gate revs tomorrow..

  • Katie

    Dental materials too.

    “It also has a large consumer healthcare division which produces and markets oral healthcare “

  • bluebird

    Felix katie

    Princes gate 55

    Parioforma – pharma and high technology. With our partner intrix we supply the south american market.

    Princes gate 55
    I M Russia Pharma
    Pharma and high technology. Wr supply the russian market and the market of former soviet states.

    Import/export in both directions.

    South america? Uzbekistan? Kasachstan?

    Yes they need pharmacy there. What do they deliver in return? Craig murray knows.

  • Katie

    “A British pharmaceuticals company official has reported that his company has discovered some of its products that had been exported to Iraq, being sold on the Lebanese market.

    The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed information

    obtained by RFI’s London correspondent indicating that the British

    Glaxo-Wellcome pharmaceuticals company had exported large quantities of an

    anti-asthmatic drug to Iraq as part of the oil-for-food program. Reports

    show that Iraqi Ministry of Transport trucks were sent to Beirut to receive the shipment that had been shipped by sea to Beirut by Glaxo-Wellcome. The company was surprised, after the Iraqis had taken over the shipment, to find large quantities of the anti-asthmatic drug “Ventolin” that had been destined for Iraq, being sold in pharmacies and stores in Lebanon.”

    http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=66

  • bluebird

    Thomas

    thanks for the drug smuggling link regarding hezbollah. I knew that before but never read such details about it. Read the very last paragraph on the last page again and again …
    That could be one way to the riddle’s solution.

  • kathy

    Oh come on! This is getting ridiculous! As if a respectable educated man with a decent job would be into drug smuggling – AND take the whole family along too! I can imagine industrial espionage or state espionage but that I cannot imagine.

  • Thomas

    @Kathy
    25 Oct, 2012 – 12:14 am

    Agree that it´s not a very likely reason for the killing. But it´s nothing wrong in discuss different motives, especially as the killing was so brutal.

    And as we discuss if a “respectable educated man with a decent job” could be able to supply Iran with nucleár tecnology as a possibility, it´s not far out to discuss other illegal activities.

    Or maybe Mollier and al-Hilli was just two perfect tax-paying citizens who was shoot by a lunatic. And the fortune of the al-Hilli family was built up by hard work and legal business – which I find unlikely until we have heard some more of the fathers activity after moving to UK.

  • Katie

    Kathy this is not small time recreational drug smuggling, this is the manufacture & global distribution of medicinal drugs.
    [ There’s a huge scam in Africa where the Chinese are making a fortune from selling fake antibiotics etc.]

    I’m not saying Mr X is doing that but he does own Crescent chemicals [& chemists] who manufacture generic drugs, why shouldn’t a man want to get medicines to his war torn country ?

    I found this, not new but the start of the long running inquiry, it’s the first time I’ve heard of Mr X having a daughter…. I wonder who she’s married to ?

    “The daughter of Nadhmi Auchi – one of Britain’s wealthiest tycoons who was arrested earlier this week on a French extradition warrant – is under criminal investigation for allegedly taking part in a suspected drug company price-fixing cartel which provided the NHS with millions of pounds worth of prescription medicines.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2003/apr/04/health.business?commentpage=1

    The other thought is that,Cezus would know the smuggling route to Iraq/Iran , weren’t they were caught with breaking sanctions in 2007 ?

  • Katie

    Bluebird 10-17.

    Yes that’s him,seen here on the GSK page:

    Abbas Hussain (President – Emerging Markets);

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlaxoSmithKline

    It Strikes me GSK is a pretty murky company.

    July 2012

    “In the largest settlement involving a pharmaceutical company, the British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline agreed to plead guilty to criminal charges and pay $3 billion in fines for promoting its best-selling antidepressants for unapproved uses and failing to report safety data about a top diabetes drug, federal prosecutors announced Monday. The agreement also includes civil penalties for improper marketing of a half-dozen other drugs.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/business/glaxosmithkline-agrees-to-pay-3-billion-in-fraud-settlement.html?_r=0

  • Felix

    btw Taurus Petroleum was registered originally at no 5 Princes Gate, not 55.

    @Kathy I’d like to know much much more about Mrs al-Allaf. she is in a very very special “do not touch” compartment.

    @Katie Seems more than a coincidence that Claire Schutz is a pharmacist? (with what seems like a higher degree)

    @Bluebird – how ever did you find Parioforma? Guess you linked Pharma to SW7… (reg add changed a year ago) Great work. See also RM Consulting.
    http://www.henley.ac.uk/web/FILES/henleybusinessschool/hbs-alumni_Pharma_C_Rowlands_present_010609.pdf
    {http://whois.domaintools.com/rmpharmachem.com}

    I looked up another Aspen Pharmacare company – Aspen Pharmacare Resources Ltd of Oxford – fascinating financials before it went into receivership in 2010.
    {https://www.duedil.com/company/02796254/aspen-pharmacare-resources-limited/financials}

  • straw44berry

    I dont even have an idea who Mr X is, please give me a clue otherwise this thread is lost to me.

  • straw44berry

    55 Princes Gate

    Just how many companies are based there?

    If there is as many as an area of yellow pages it is hardly surprising you can find an example of every business you want to.

  • Katie

    BTW, would it be possible for a head crashing down on the stick, to knock an automatic gear leaver into reverse ?

    I have driven an auto but I remember having to push in a button on the side of the lever too.

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