The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
… or perhaps giving away…
James take a breath… Kathy is a real person too and you both have hurt feelings… you two both just get your wires crossed, remember like the other night? You both get upset at something the other person didn’t say, and it escalates… I can see it so clearly from outside.
Anders… 11.33… any good?
“I think James is v close on the “why” (11.24pm) but he doesn’t know what SAH and SM were selling”
That I have no idea on.
Was it “something” ? An idea ? Contacts ? A network ?
And I have no idea “who” (or is that “whom”).
I do believe (and it depends what I can find on Sa’ad’s contacts)…but it’s either Hezbollah *via Iran) or Mossad (prob via USA’s blessing).
Actually…that sounds a bit of a Kathyism…but the “how Sa’d got there” I think I get.
James pissed of Kathy who got the hump and left. I think he should apologise… maybe he will when he calms down a bit. I hope so. He’s a gent underneath all the bluster and bravado. There’s something between them that creates friction, James is very cryptic and it winds Kathy up. Katie as you say is a horse of a different colour…
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What worries me is Mr. Miniature couldn’t launch a paper aeroplane successfully! He gets to the cockpit via his trusty black Lab, Smiley! He takes off, lands, and cruises – on doggypilot! 🙂
11.33
But with the throttle screwed on, there is only the barest margin, and no room at all for mistakes. It has to be done right… and that’s when the strange music starts, when you stretch your luck so far that fear becomes exhilaration and vibrates along your arms. You can barely see at a hundred; the tears blow back so fast that they vaporize before they get to your ears. The only sounds are the wind and a dull roar floating back from the mufflers. You watch the white line and try to lean with it… howling through a turn to the right, then to the left, and down the long hill to Pacifica… letting off now, watching for cops, but only until the next dark stretch and another few seconds on the edge… The Edge… There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others – the living – are those who pushed their luck as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later…
“doggypilot!
Sot on my dear fella. On soooo many levels.
I’m not doing a “night Dehli” anymore.
No sir. That’s not for me.
My biggest worry is….is my phone on silent when I go on standby !!!
Ha Ha Ha.
@anders @ferret I agree entirely in your theories. What we are missing really is the why
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Knew too much.
Same reason all the Marconi scientists were killed.
Why microbiologists and astrophysicists are brink killed.
Why Kelly was killed.
Diana, Cook, Smith,
All got “in the way” – were a threat to the usual suspects.
Ahhh… I see what you mean now…
Thinks: Yes, but how does this relate to our case??? Wish I had a more lateral brain!
“doggypilot!
Sot on my dear fella. On soooo many levels.
I’m not doing a “night Dehli” anymore.
No sir. That’s not for me.
My biggest worry is….is my phone on silent when I go on standby !!!
Ha Ha Ha.
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Set on a high pitched whistle app that only doggies can hear! 🙂
I was going to say, “was that Hunter S Thompson” – and then I googled it, and it was!!! (V similar to Fear n Loathing but without so much gonzo in the lingo)… well how about that! Didn’t he die in mysterious c too?
@ferret , yes about a 1000 comments ago, I assumed that the mystery 3rd party/parties managed to achieve their goal and get away with the goods (whatever those goods are). It would be interesting to see the scale of the operation to recover said items. I guess we’ll never know.
Ahhh… I see what you mean now…
Thinks: Yes, but how does this relate to our case??? Wish I had a more lateral brain!
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“The conveniences and comforts of humanity in general will be linked up by one mechanism, which will produce comforts and conveniences beyond human imagination. But the smallest mistake will bring the whole mechanism to a certain collapse. In this way the end of the world will be brought about.”
Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan, 1922 (Sufi Prophet)
I was going to say, “was that Hunter S Thompson” – and then I googled it, and it was!!! (V similar to Fear n Loathing but without so much gonzo in the lingo)… well how about that! Didn’t he die in mysterious c too?
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He was whacked. Was working on a huge paedo case amongst the DC elite, similar to the Franklin coverup. I don’t believe the suicide story, at the time he was having a blast, came completely out of the blue, and all too easy to arrange.
The thing is (Master Ferret and Master Anders),
we see it two different ways.
You see it (and this sxcludes Kelly) as oe “man” in the way.
I see it as “many” people all doing there “thang”.
You see one Sa’ad ad Mollier.
I see many sa’ad’s and Mollier’s. All doing their thing (for whichever side).
Then one day…someone decides “it’s too close” or “an email needs o be sent”…and that’s that.
In the world of “privae aviation”, you’ll be amazed at the amount of “jets” land at Geneva !
@GuyF
Yes… my favoured scenario (at the mo) goes like this:
SM : Has secrets (Hafnium detonator?) and is LaRouche
SAH: Could verify those secrets, hates USA
MIL: Courier to Iran
Mossad (or DGSE) wipe them all out.
They cannot be arrested as news will leak at the trial that a Hafnium weapon exists, so pah-pah-pah-pah-pah.
No espionage role for IAH in this scenario other than cover as family holiday.
Could be that Mossad got away with the goodies?
Some sources say he was working on WTC 9/11 story and was receiving death threats… all links except PrisonPlanet 404 now, how “odd”…
I like “pah pah Pah” !
Good theory.
And Guy. What’s you hand ?
eg
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/21/beijing-develops-radiation-weapons/?page=all
?
James, great find about MEK.
MEK are dead enemies of shia group regarding al saffar, al hilli and al allaf. This group is hezbollah and pro iranian. MEK is left wing and wants to get rid of irsnian clriqs. In iraq the MEK is baath party and a majority of sunni.
Tead the guardian link below regarding tha guy who works for guardian. This is ali al-saffar from kingston upon thames, a relative of iqbal al hilli.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/ali-al-saffar
Read the post of the first post submitted to this guardian article. Ali al saffar from kingston upon thames:
http://eyeraki.blogspot.co.at/2008/06/mko-iraqi-threat-or-iraqi-asset.html?m=1
MEK is a hot path in pur case. Likely the usa found new friends since they are now targetting iran and they upset their old friends now. The old friends try to retaliate and perhaps to leak some fake from the past 2 centuries and the usa is not amused. And neither is france nor the uk amused.
and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hafnium_controversy
Gotta hit the sack now… pooped. Will catch up tomorrow. Night all… will mull all clues cryptic and otherwise… forgotten how good HST is as an author… what a treat. 🙂
My happy thoughts are…
Sa’ad
Internal Iranian/Hez ( et al !).
Mollier
Saboteur plan…or item…or software.
The “et al” sort out the deed.
And one very drunk pax departs Orly…who’ll not be seeing the lights of Tehran again.
Response. The USA unleashes MEK
” I don’t believe the suicide story, at the time he was having a blast, came completely out of the blue, and all too easy to arrange.”
Facts, notwithstanding; his death in Woody Creek is well documented. He ate a double 00 shell after Bush was re-elected. His son Raoul would be the first to cry foul play. He didn’t think he would live so long and had seen enough. God speed, HST.
Great find about MEK, james!
We are getting closer. My answer to you is awaiting moderation. Dont miss my links submitted in that yet unreleased post.
“was simply to indicate that I was still reading. And then I gave that up too.
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No you didn’t.”
Posted by LittleAnders007.
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Don’t you DARE quote half a sentence and then accuse me of not doing what it said. I had written “Posting the numbers of comments was simply to indicate that I was still reading. And then I gave that up too.”
Which I did.
“Apologies for spellin, my iPhone has its foibles.”
No it hasn’t. You have two big fat thumbs to go with your fat head.
You’re a chancer of the first order. And you were chancing your arm on http://davidicke.com/forum/ before you got here. I had read all of that too.
Bluebird…
To be honest, some would say not.
For me…. The MEK came off the list just before the weekend.
That’s quite something…whn you know what the MEK can do.
How I found it…. I asked, “what would the response be”.
Basically (aas as Iran puts it) the US ave unleashed…and will fund Al Q (MEK) in Iran. That’s not good.
But no one is listening ! Hey Ho !
Mossad uses MEK members for the assassination of shia scientists and false flag operations to blame iran.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099142/Mossad-training-terrorists-kill-Irans-nuclear-scientists-U-S-officials-claim–Israels-real-target-Obama.html
http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/09/10354553-israel-teams-with-terror-group-to-kill-irans-nuclear-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news?lite
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=152608
http://www.prisonplanet.com/thai-muslim-leader-mossads-mek-responsible-for-diplomat-attack.html
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2012/02/09/u-s-officials-confirm-mossad-mek-covert-war-against-iran/
James i could not agree more.
I did submot 2 posts with links that support many already posted theories here and it is stillawaiting moderation. Dont miss that tomorrow morning. It is quite exciting.
Meanwhile search google for: ali al saffar + guardian.
Ali al saffar is from kingston upon thames and a young relative of iqbal.
Nuid…
I think “Flander 9876 decimal 8” puts himself up as some kind of “know it all”
Some believe him (I am shocked at who) some don’t.
Me I laugh. He’s a circus act.
But he doesnt actally provide any “new” things. It’s all quotes.
Like ome mad “luvvy actor”.
Anyway….at least Bluebird gets the relevance of the MEK report.
Anders never read it…or could understand it.
So I am awaiting Bluebirds links. Refresh, refresh, refresh.