The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
I found it
This article was written in 2003. Recently some insiders (leakers?) have reported that the us airforce research lab made a breakthrough. Most of those reports went off the internet quickly. Some still remain there in non english languages. But most links do no longer exist although they are still linked on google. Somebody had an jnterest to keep that secret.
Keep in mind that this article was written almost 10 years ago!!!! Science fiction? Not in 2003 and certainly not today.
http://www.newscientist.com/mobile/article/dn3406-nuclearpowered-drone-aircraft-on-drawing-board.html
This is from a German formum – machine translated – don’t know if it’s anything new here.
“Mollier worked for the nuclear company of Westinghouse, a subsidiary of the international AREVA group which manufactures covers for nuclear fuel rods. Cezus (a subsidiary of Areva) Pure metals produced for the nuklear industrie. Zirconium is used in the nuklear industrie for centrifuges or the silex technology to win weapons-grade material.
Hafnium is a different story if someone should with xray lasers 178Hf m2 isotope in larger quantities to produce. that would be more valuable than any kind of zirconium.
Al hilli, laser was expert. In the 1990s for Swedish company Elekta. In UK. Then at Rutherford Labs. Then at SSTL. He worked as an expert on xray laser and particle duplicate accelerators for laser technology. Westinghouse had the metal required. Al Hilli had the laser or knew how to construct it and applies. The matches already.”
The last paragraph in news scientist article would explain the RLC being in al hillis house. The nucleon hafnium battery wont kill you but you would not want to be near to it. That is about the same with dental xrays. Now who could use dental xrays as a trigger in technology research without being suspicious? Dentists could!
All what he needed was wisdom, knowledge, education, HAFNIUM AND an xray trigger, such as a dentist’s xray. You dont want to live near a dentist’s xray but it wont kill you …. Exactly.
New forms of energy. A lot of deadly enemies triggered …
BREAKING NEWS
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/10/27/tuerie-de-chevaline-les-secrets-d-une-scene-de-crime_1782012_3224.html
It’s very interesting, Sherlock. In due time — for tomorrow papers? — British journos will have picked this up and explained the main finds. For what I made out by Google Translate Moliier seems to have been dragged around the scene by Al-Hillis vehicle, and the French have found some bullets in the woods. There was only one killer, and a a Swiss Luger was used. But were there any other weapons used? That I didn’t get.
The us airforce research lab has a sister outlet in london, uk.
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=16662/
The usage of the Swiss Luger would be a very typical Israeli mark, intented to throw people off the scent.
You must also understand the sick and warped Israeli mind: Talk to any Israeli — or just fellow ethnic writer/journos, be it US or UK press — and they all have resentment for the Swiss, because they turned the Jews away during WW2. As if the history of the world centers around the Jews – which they think it does. The situation of course is that — however deplorable the fate of the Jews were during WW2 — being a minority in a dictatorship (and being detested by that dictatorship), always is risky business, and there is very little outside forces can do about it.
The Israelis also resent that the allied didn’t bomb concentration camps. But WW2 was a great destinational (about destiny) struggle. It was the very fate of the world that was at stake, and minorities within German domains came second. And for some reason they fall over the Swiss for refusing to accept Jewish refugees, but many others refused them as well.
So the usage of a Swiss weapon from the first part of the last century would be a fine way for a warped mind to throw some suspicion on Swiss related people. I know it sounds sick in the extreme, but……………Israel as a concept is sick in the extreme.
Cheers Straw. No not dead ! Had to work.
So we think the cash in the bank comes from the Iraq prop deal ?
Could be.
Interesting developments in the world of weapons I hear in The Gulf. Not bombs, but lasers. Guess you need “guidance” for them. Overhead guidance I guess (something hard to shoot down ?)
And now Mollier hits the headlines !
Primary target they say ? Al Hilli out of the car and primary target nearby (but moved when deceased).
…and why is all this news “leaked” !
I think they are trying to get to this “lone nut” theory, but keep failing.
Now I do believe that Al Hilli was to meet Mollier, but wonder if it was indeed “nukes” that were centre stage.
NR
Westinghouse is no sister company of areva. In fact, westinghouse is the american counterpart to areva and they are competitors.
Westinghouse is now owned by japanese toshiba.
Westinghouse and areva are strong competitors. Therefore that forum message is totally wrong or else wrongly translated. of mollier really worked for westinghouse AND areva then he was a double agent …. Dont think so. Just a wrong track. Also westinghouse stopped hafnium production some years ago.
http://www.elementinvesting.com/investing_in_hafnium.htm
Here’s the Chrome auto-translate of the Le Monde article Sherlock posted earlier – Mods please delete this post if seen as unnecessary – I see Le Monde articles go behind a pay wall so thought it good to get this out there.
The main steps of the slaughter of Horses, committed on September 5 south of Lake Annecy (Haute-Savoie), are now known. According to the evidence of partial syntheses forwarded to the Directorate of the National Gendarmerie, which Le Monde has had access, “the dynamics of the crime scene” was identified by investigators, even if all the scientific and technical expertise have not yet been given to two judges in charge of the case.
See graphics Slaughter of Horses: a single killer, determined and extremely brutal (subscribers)
Four people were killed, three members of a family and a British cyclist French. These crimes have caused considerable emotion in France and Britain, in terms of their violence and mystery that endures to their cause.
“ALL THAT SCENARIO WILL SUPPORT ON ASSUMPTIONS”
“The dynamics of the scene is surrounded today” has confirmed the World the prosecutor Annecy, Eric Maillaud . The latter, however, insisted that he “still many unknowns, such as, for example, the order in which these people were shot, and no track is, to date, privileged” .
According to a source close to the investigation , the science can not, for the moment, “to determine in the short time that separated each death, if the cyclist was killed before or after the member British family; any scenario on this issue is based on assumptions ” .
Read Slaughter of Horses: the Iraq shooting clubs local investigators on leads
If justice is not able to certify the objective of the killer, investigators welcome to henceforth ‘s support on an understanding of the scene corroborated by independent appraisers. They therefore consider that the shooter was alone and did not use only one weapon, P06, P08 of the version 7.65, type Luger . She was staffing in the army Swiss 1920 and 1930. The professional killers do not use this type of weapon. It is now more subject to collection, and the police believed that a number of people in the border region with Switzerland , are likely to possess.
WHO WAS REFERRED FIRST?
According to the partial syntheses, the killing seems to have taken place in several acts, some of which were mentioned by the website of Paris. Initially positioned upstream of the park road leading to the forest, the killer fired , 15 to 30 h in the direction of an area where a cyclist were gathered French, Sylvain Mollier , a British tourist, Saad Al-Hilli and his eldest daughter, Zainab, aged 7.
Certainly, we do not know who was first referred. But it seems probable that this family of Iraqi origin settled in the suburbs of London, on vacation in the area, would not parked in the parking lot if the rider’s body, wounded by gunfire, was already lying on the ground.
Mr Mollier bike was found at this location. This bicycle racing high-end is estimated at more than 5000 euros, and its owner never came here. His stepfather had advised him that area, however inauspicious to make his exit.
Near the bike, experts have found fragments of the weapon, which has up to its model. Extensive research is underway, especially with the manufacturer to try to find buyers. This discovery also leaves open assumptions. How the weapon she fell on the ground, and why? There was a fight with one of the victims? The killer was he allowed to escape from his hand? Investigations will answer these questions.
TRACES OF TIRES
Statements of Zainab, the eldest daughter of the family Al-Hilli, provided an important element enter the events. According to his statement, it was outside of the vehicle with his father when the latter has an abrupt hand to direct current to the car parked on the cob.
At this stage, two versions differ. One of the investigators told the World that Saad Al-Hilli was shot in the lower back as he returned hastily place driver. The trajectory of the ball can be explained by its position leaning forward to avoid the shots the shooter. Asked the prosecutor denied Annecy, for his part, he was shot in that time.
Tire tracks found on the ground give the result of the action. If the eldest daughter does not seem to be able to ride in the car, his father made a sudden reverse to put the vehicle in the direction of travel and leave the premises.
The forensic examination of the body of the cyclist, who was found on the other side of the park, shows that he was caught by the car when it fell. The body of Sylvain Mollier door on its side of the draft marks part of the chest. This movement would explain his distance from his bike.
STAY HIDDEN
During this maneuver father Al-Hilli, bullets shattered the rear window right break BMW and affected an analysis , one of the people who were there. Because during this time, the stepmother, the woman and the second daughter of Saad Al-Hilli, Zeena, 4 years old, were sitting on the rear seats.
Zeena said that his mother had asked him to remain hidden from the first shots. Of broken glass were recovered on the ground and appraised.
After having locked the doors, Saad Al-Hilli is still able to perform its reverse. But under pressure from the assailant and shots, he hit the slope and the rear wheels have lost their grip, preventing leakage.
The killer during the maneuver, moved along the car. He fired continuously. The movements of the BMW family break made him miss his target. Bullets were found in the undergrowth beyond the car along the road again towards Annecy and Horses.
Syntheses of police state are then a second highlight. The car is immobilized. The killer murders this time coldly occupants trapped in the vehicle cabin. He is the head.
Investigators collect 25 sockets on the entire scene. He had to use multiple chargers. There are still doubts about the fate of the cyclist at this stage of the drama. This would, again, received several hits as he lay on the ground after having been dragged by the car.
“AN EXTREME VIOLENCE”
Phase probably the cruelest occurs when the shooter finds he has no ammunition. The expert review revealed that Zaina was hit in the face with the butt of P06 for the express purpose of completing . She had at this stage already been shot in the shoulder. “An extreme violence, we can say that is hard on it ” had just released publicly Attorney Annecy. “A massacre” has confirmed an investigator.
An unexpected event seems to have stopped the dirty work of the killer. He fled, leaving the child severely injured, stumbling amid the bloody chaos. He was warned by an accomplice that another cyclist was about to arrive on the scene? He, by himself, he had tried to leave the area or saw a potential threat?
15 to 45 h, Zaina is found, totally disoriented by a British cyclist who arrives with his ATV. William Brett Martin , a British-born New Zealand, is a veteran of the Royal Air Force. It quickly realize the gravity of the situation. He sees the little girl ‘s collapse on the floor. He said investigators had first moved the body of the cyclist and Zaina, lest the car with the wheels turning yet not crushed. Then accesses the dashboard of the car and cut the engine before starting seek relief, which are notified to 15 h 48.
See Video Slaughter of Horses: It really looked like a scene from Hollywood
It has taken less than four minutes to perform these operations, indicating that, at least, a certain coolness. His story also shows the speed with which the killings took place. Shortly after having passed the village of Horses, 15 to 15 h, on his bike, says William Brett Martin have been joined by Sylvain Mollier, who headed in the same direction as him and quickly distanced. At 15 h 15, the British tourists were still on, for their part, photos in a hamlet in the town of Doussard.
Such timing leaves investigators puzzled about the sequence of events and their causes. Faced with the complexity of this issue outsized Attorney Maillaud, cowardly, meanwhile, that “everything is possible” , before adding : “I just hope he is not another case Godard that we will never have the last word. ” Thirteen years of investigation were never allowed to explain the disappearance in 1999 of Dr. Yves Godard , his wife and their two children.
Jacques Follorou
Potential links between Al-Hilli and Saddam Hussein
German intelligence had passed through the Office of the counter-terrorism police, elements of the relationship between the family of Saad Al-Hilli and fortune of Saddam Hussein, according to a source close to the investigation into the killing of horse.
Tensions arising from the eviction would be the father of Saad Al-Hilli of the list of beneficiaries of funds belonging to the former Iraqi dictator.
The conflict between the brothers Al-Hilli, mentioned in the survey, have focused on this legacy, not only paternal legacy. Swiss court found that Saad Al-Hilli had an account that was one million euros, without making a link between this sum and Iraq, the country of origin of the family.
“The idea of a hidden legacy of Saddam Hussein is pure fantasy, says one of his French lawyers, Emmanuel Ludot. The only track that would make sense, are the funds deposited by the Iraqi regime in Swiss banks in the context of the case against oil food. ” Questioned by Le Monde, the prosecutor Annecy, Eric Maillaud, said he had not been “informed of the arrival of this new element” .
2 more links for new forms of energy research. Note that the research is classified and that the articles are from years ago. What was research at those times maybe reality today.
What does usually happen to people who intend to leak classified research?
http://www.sciscoop.com/2004-6-22-10046-8452.html
http://m.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/may/30/energy.nuclearindustry?cat=science&type=article
It is all about lasers and hafnium. Exxon holds hundreds of patents regarding hafnium nano technology. We need laser or an xray, hafnium and the knowledge regarding the patents. 1+1+1=3
That Le Monde article is pure gobbledegook….. ” He said investigators had first moved the body of the cyclist and Zaina, lest the car with the wheels turning yet not crushed.
“investigators” ……. that’s not the translation that’s a fundamental error, it’s riddle with errors.
Frankly I think they’ve been reading this site & Icke, even MM’s site says the police ‘searched’ Mollier, well I said that earlier this week & no one had mentioned it before.
Much of that piece has been said here this week.
Very interesting Bluebird. Lasers are the future eh?
What little I know, I’m surprised they haven’t been put to better use [ than now ] long before this.
@NR
The Guthrie article in the mail has disappeared from the web. However, it is still available elsewhere…eg
http://vrritti.com/2012/04/20/how-and-why-did-gchq-mi6-codebreaker-gareth-williams-die/
V.fishy.
@Ferret
If the Silver Fern Sussex business was really a front, why wasn’t it folded and re-opened every two years? Can’t think of an answer to this one. It certainly wasn’t opened though as a holiday company….
@A Wryman –
the article mentions the avocat Ludot – a blog about him (with link) has just appeared…interesting timing
http://ludot-emmanuel-avocat.blogspot.co.uk/
Nothing to see here…. see how the Telegraph is reporting Mockford –
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/9638105/Panicking-robber-may-have-shot-Nicolas-Mockford-police-believe.html
“panicking robber..”
clearly the authorities imposed an 11 day blackout because they didn’t want to solve a robbery…..
oh yes, a robbery which was so panicky that the killers had time enough to shoot Mockford while he was dead on the ground
Mr Mockford died on the spot in the attack, which also saw his wife, Mary, beaten badly around the face as she tried to stop two men taking her handbag and the keys to the couple’s £40,000 Lexus 4×4.
She heard them shout “money, money” and “car, car” before both Mr and Mrs Mockford tried to protect their property, said a senior investigator.
“A nervous criminal is likely to have got into a violent rage as the couple effectively fought back,’ he said, quoting expert police profilers.
“Four bullets entered the victim’s body in quick succession. The victim’s wife was also beaten severely round the face – also suggesting sudden and severe anger.”
Is this credible? [Ans= no]
not the number of times he was shot has increased by one overnight..
{http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/9635800/Family-of-murdered-ExxonMobil-chief-fear-he-was-assassinated-in-Brussels-shooting.html}
..was shot three times..
Still counting the bullet wounds then after nearly two weeks.
Like an Al-Hilli re-run….”coup de grace” “white van”
…perhaps Craig needs a Mockford thread?
@NR
interesting blog re Guthrie here…
http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/show/13763229
Mockford – early reports – two bullets:
Nicholas Mockford, a été abattu dans une rue à Neder-over-Hembeek à Bruxelles. Les assaillants l’ont tiré deux balles dans la tête quand il sortait d’un restaurant italien vers 22h.
http://cettesemaine.free.fr/spip/imprimersans.php3?id_article=5387
{http://www.tankpro.nl/ondernemen/2012/10/16/topman-exxonmobil-in-brussel-vermoord/} [twee kogels]
How many weeks now…and no reconstruction ?
Just puctures shown around a rural French village of the deceased family members.
Not much really. “Yes we saw them”, “no we didn’t see them”.
But Mollier seems to be more important now !
And Billy following behind the “target” !
Good Mockford thread here
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread893705/pg3
Check post by smurfzilla at top of p3. “beaten” echoes again of Al-Hilli
same Mockford “above top secret” thread…
outonalimb page 2
Another fake story? Allowing the bigboss to escape out of public life, in preparation for what is to come.
“It is all about lasers and hafnium. Exxon holds hundreds of patents regarding hafnium nano technology. We need laser or an xray, hafnium and the knowledge regarding the patents. 1+1+1=3”
And seperation technology…with CEZUS
OFF TOPIC:
Is HAARP currently being used in attracting Hurricane Sandy towards Washington D.C./New York /New Jersey and creating a ‘Superstorm’ with a resultant deluge of rainfall immediately prior to the US Presidential Election?
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at3.shtml?5-daynl#contents
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225936
[http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-east-coast-prepares-hurricane-sandy-20121027,0,2716397.story]
I forgot the HAARP status link:-
http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html
Straw…
Prob not. Weather this time of year is pretty bloody odd.
I hit a microbust last week. Very funny weather going on !
That Le Monde article and “sources close to the investigation” so I assume it is information the French Government WANT us to know? Nothing dramatically new here just confirmation of what we previously had surmised, “warts and all”. The gun it would appear, has morphed from Skorpion to Luger PO6 (or?) PO8 “used by the Swiss”. Apparently there is a 15 bullet magazine available for this gun (http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Magazines_Tanaka_GBB_Sniper_Rifle_Tanaka_Luger_P06_M1906_Version_12rd_Magazine.htm)and(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_pistol) If it was the standard eight bullet model it would have required at least four magazines and three changes. Even a specialized extended magazine version would have required at least one change. “One gunman, one gun” seems somewhat unlikely to me but that’s what this “leak” wants us to believe.
A couple of new bits of information: that Al Hilli was shot OUTSIDE the car and Mollier was dragged by the car based on a chest injury if I have it right. If true, this would tend to confirm the long held view by many here, but officially rejected, that a meeting was going on between the two. It also confirms the idea that the car was located forward of its final location when the gunman(men) arrived and shot Mollier first whilst Al Hilli rushed, crouching, back to the drivers seat leaving Zainab still outside. Whichever way you look at it, with 25 bullets fired, her survival could not have been down to a lack of ammunition.
Finally on my pet subject of timing, this article does nothing to explain multiple anomalies. This one repeats WBM’s arrival time at 3.45 after a 30 mins. ride up the Combe. The problem is it suggests he made the call at 3.48, allowing only three minutes for everything he said he did, leaving aside the fact that he flatly denies he could get through on his mobile. So this central, critical issue is still not resolved and after seven weeks the official version is simply irrational. We also have a problem with the confirmation that Mollier overtook on the half hour cycle ride. Remember Brett Martin was no slouch and Mollier was only ten years younger. Nor from the photographs of him does Mollier appear to have a Tour de France physique. I will leave it to someone else to do the detailed calculation but if he “overtook” halfway up, he would have to be going TWICE (!) as fast even to arrive 7.5 minutes ahead of him. If we accept a much more likely 10% faster he arrives only 2.5 mins ahead!!!!! In this window we are asked to believe Mollier arrived, dismounted, engaged in conversation with Al Hilli, the killers arrive, shoot five people from multiple positions, get back in the vehicle, roar off, presumably back down the road past Martin, yet he hears and sees none of it. This is simply not believable. Now add in the mix that it is suggested/confirmed the Al Hilli’s were about five miles away having their photograph taken when Martin was starting his ride up the Combe. They MUST therefore have passed him to get to the lay-by, something he has never claimed. NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE.
Tim V
I agree.
Billy also “checked Mollier”.
Shot in the body and face….and ran over !!!!
Times don’t match at all.
Billy “should say”, Al Hilli passed him….and Mollier also did.
Isnt LeMonde’s story that shooting starts as soon as SM comes to car park, shooter is waiting; SAH and Z are out of the car. SAH tries to drag Z to the car but he is shot. Gets in car and tries to place it between shooter and Z, and runs into/over SM in process. Gets stuck. Killed. All bullets used so butt used on face of Z. LeMonde supposes BM then appears (not having heard anything!! – ?headphones in ears) and shooter stops or is warned to. Retreats uphill and getaway.
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[Long distance (31 km) mountain run – surely something which would interest their neighbour Brett Martin, Triathlete??]
see also Gil Thomas of Lathuile – selling parascending equipment in 2011..
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