The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Bluebird.
Stick a note to @Jon on the links. I think he sometimes picks them up faster.
I am staying up to read them.
35°41’48.21″N 51°18’33.66″E
to
54°28’57.93″N 6°10’51.09″W
James he is probably sleeping.
Search google for MEK+mossad+scientist
You will find something yourself!
I’m off to bed, but before I go – I saw in an early DM article that Iqbal’s father was a university lecturer. I missed that till now. Nothing came up that I could see on Google- – Bluebird, can you shed any light on him?
Bluebird !
WHOA ! I just searched that !
First one… 9th of Feb 2012 !!!!!!!!
That’s why sites like this work.
I was too busy looking and linking the terror list to “events” recently… didnt even see that !
Well done you.
Lol there’s more chests being puffed out on here than a flock of pigeons during mating season.
@ bluebird
1 Oct, 2012 – 12:54 am
Oh wow.
Yeh Flanders… I’m a spook !
I just get paid more for flying (or not flying) than you get paid (or not paid) for writing !
It’s simple really. I get paid more than you do.
A “doggy” ilot you say ? Did I ever question your writing ??
So tell me this, why when I looked for “Anders29650” do I find you have been booted off every site you have gone on ?
Is it because you like writing ? Or because people actually find you’re biolar ?
@James, the US have been using MEK for some time, I believe, and several prominent former US government officials have been making tidy bonuses by making speeches for them. Don’t forget that GW Bush got about $473 million from Congress for “black ops” inside Iran. (I have no doubt Obama has at least similar, if not more.)
MEK are not Al Q, as far as I know. They are (were?) an internal opposition group in Iran who are apparently quite prepared to work for Israel.
“Five lessons from the de-listing of MEK as a terrorist group”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/23/iran-usa
(And I agree with your about Anders007. Need I say?)
” I don’t believe the suicide story, at the time he was having a blast, came completely out of the blue, and all too easy to arrange.”
Facts, notwithstanding; his death in Woody Creek is well documented. He ate a double 00 shell after Bush was re-elected. His son Raoul would be the first to cry foul play. He didn’t think he would live so long and had seen enough. God speed, HST.
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Yes I am well on top of all the stories Ben. And yes I’ve heard James’ 911 big story too. Problem is, why didn’t HST speak up about 911? He had many loooong years to do so. Perhaps he was a dimbulb, and believed, like some here, that 911 was a bad hair day.
An assassin could easily have done the business. HST was alone in a large detached lair in the snowy boonies. Anyone good enough, and there are plenty, could have pulled off the hoodwink.
Yes, one of my inspirations – the world is a poorer place without him.
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The Edge… There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others – the living – are those who pushed their luck as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later…
Shruuup Dopey
It shines more light on this than any others have done.
Sa’ad, accounts, somewhere else…..Iqbal, Dubai, children, England.
Then France, holiday (?), Mollier.
My search….recent events, Bluebirds search string.
And that’s not BLOODY good !!!
@ James
re 12:51 post – is this a path you recognise – t -10 days? @22:55 UTC
@Matthew Why bring the IRA into this ?
Nuid…
“MEK are not Al Q” No they are not. But to Iran they are.
Here’s the Iran’s officail news agency report on it today.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dirna%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1W1ADFA_esES480%26biw%3D1067%26bih%3D442%26prmd%3Dimvns&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=fa&u=http://old.irna.ir/News/Politic/Firouzabadi,-US-has-resorted-to-al-Qaeda,-MKO-for-low-cost-war-with-Muslims/80348458&usg=ALkJrhjkwfD398v9K2FGxH_x1zBLkGVe3Q
US has resorted to al-Qaeda, MKO for low cost war with Muslims
Tehran, Sept 30, IRNA – Chief of Staff of Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said on Sunday that the US has resorted to al-Qaeda, MKO to wage low-cost wars with Muslims. Tehran, Sept 30, IRNA – Chief of Staff of Armed Forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi said on Sunday that the US has resorted to al-Qaeda, MKO to wage low-cost wars with Muslims.
@Guy “the boys” have feck all to do with this
Anders007, you really don’t have to copy and paste entire comments from others before adding your little ‘quips’ at the end. You could save a lot of space by just posting the person’s name and the comment date/time.
Goodnight all
Matthew…
Who’s “boyz” ?
@James – draw yourself a line between those two points in the mapping program of your choice and then check recent history i.e. 10 days ago
Mat.
Explain please ?
Mat
Between Tehran and DXB ?
12:51 post 2 sets of coordinates – 1 flight path – 1 recent cellestial event – check it out
Anders007, you really don’t have to copy and paste entire comments from others before adding your little ‘quips’ at the end. You could save a lot of space by just posting the person’s name and the comment date/time.
Goodnight all
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Codladh Sámh ™ 🙂
Mat…
Explain ?
Are you saying the satellite shoot down ? (so called) ?
I’m f*/*ing scared is what I’m saying – you obviously have not tracked that path
Belfast and Tehran
Mat…
and with all due respect…amny on here talk about “satellites”.
nd “shoot downs”. But rarely, if ever is one man able to “control the data” needed to do this.
There are howver many people on a team. So One man ould not be able to pass massive relevant information..
Flanders thinks so….he is far more “James Bond” than I am, talk to him about it. This shooting is low level “spying” (as most spying is) and there sn’t even an Aston Martin involved…just a Brett !
@James with your flying history you should have been able to work that out
“you obviously have not tracked that path”
But that’s not the path a “sat” would take.
Are you saying a missle!!!
Then that is madness !
@Matthew Where did you derive the co-ordinates from ?