The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
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Sensational Find, Breaking News. American intelligence link for Hashim al Hilli, Mohammed Shukri and Saddams stepfather Hasan Ibrahim detected and confirmed by official documents.
Time 1938-1941.
In the immigration papers there came 6 young “diplomats” into the USA in 1938, all exepmt and on special treatment by US Immigration as “diplomats”
1. Hashim al Hilli (20) from Najaf
2. Hasan Ibrahim (27) from Baghdad
3. Muhammed Shukri (25) from Najaf
4. Abdul J. Jawahery (23) from Najaf
5. Hussain Mohammed Abdul Majid al Yasin (25) from Kadhiwair
6. Hammoudi Abdul Majid (27) from Amarah
About Hammoudi al Majid (does the name Abdul Majid ring a bell?)
http://books.google.at/books/about/Guides_for_the_Improvement_of_Teacher_Ed.html?id=iclPewAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
Hammoudi Abdul Majid (born in Amarah, Iraq)
+++ brother of Hussein al Majid (father of Saddam Hussein) ??? (not confirmed, just a strong guess) +++
Children
Zuhair Hammoudi Majeed (majid)
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/903826800
Senar Hammoudi Abdul Majid, born June 1973, Hillingdon, Middlesex
Abdul Hammoudi Abdul Majid, born 1951, Houston, TX
Aminah Hammoudi Abdul Majid, born 1979, Bronx, NY
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Mohammad Shukri
Eldest son Mahdi M. Shukri, arrived in America on January 22nd 1951 for studying in the University of Arizona.
Another child, Nabil M Shukri, born in 1948 (apparently in the USA), has died on Feb 08 2012 in New York
Another child lived in Kingston upon Thames (S Mohammed Shukri) in Highstreet, Meadows Hotel, from 1976. Meadows Hotel doesn’t exist any more. There is apparently just a bar now.
Another son is Jamil Mohammad Shukri (born 1937), born in the same year as Saddam, son of Mohammed Shukri, who was a “diplomat”, trained by OSS in the USA 1938-1941. He apparently became Saddams most prominent Propaganda film maker during the Saddam times.
Shukri was in the USA with Saddam’s stepfather Hasan Ibrahim, “diplomat”, trained by OSS in USA 1938-1941
And Shukri was in the USA with Hashim al Hilli, “diplomat” at the age of 20!! (LOL), trained by OSS in the USA 1938-1941
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By researching Mohammed Shukri’s immigration papers, I found out that the 6 young “diplomats” ALL OF THEM lived in Ann Arbor Michigan, from 1938 until at least 1941/42. The 6 lived in: Ann Arbor, 734 Division Drive, Ypsilanti Township, Michigan, USA.
Enter that address into google maps and you will be very excited!!
In Ann Arbour there was Willow Run and a huge American Airforce training base. Before 1941, the international OSS/CIA activities were performed by Navy and Airforce.
http://apps.detnews.com/apps/history/index.php?id=73&category=locations
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Enough said?
American intelligence assets!
We must rewrite the History of the Middle East!
Shall I keep on digging?
Furthermore, Katie ..
Even if you’re right, your Mr UnmeNtionAble could simply buy SAH. Every man and woman has their price.
Sorry but as Anders would say Epic Fail.
Keep digging into LaRouche!
@ NR
“There was something I read that LaRouche didn’t want members to marry”
I have read also that having babies was considered a betrayal and Mollier had recently had a baby.
@Bluebird
2 Nov, 2012 – 12:51 pm
Excellent work, my litle feathered friend! Awesome.
I think there was always an awareness that Saddam was originally a CIA asset, as was OBL.
I remember a telling remark from I think it was Don Rumsfeld in the run up to the Gulf War about Saddam:
“We know he’s got WMDs, we’ve got the receipts!”
We really do need to re-write history. Demand the truth!
Mochyn, you are way off the mark, why should Israel be involved at all in my plan ?
Mollier fits in perfectly he is the LaRouche agent who ‘probably’ wouldn’t mind handing over info on some technology,he’s anti capitalism & pro nuclear.
It does not have to be nuclear warfare, there’s a lot of money to be made with nuclear energy not to mention telecoms.
As someone else said this looks like a personal vendetta,the multiple bullets are unprofessional.
I have always agreed with that.
No Saad could not be bought, Mr X would have to be sure, elimination was the only way.
Likewise a true professional hit man did not need such an elaborate plan.
http://www.cia-on-campus.org/msu.edu/msu.html
http://www.cia-on-campus.org/witanek.html
“From 1955-59, Michigan State University had a $25 million contract with the CIA to provide academic cover to five CIA agents stationed in South Vietnam”
Not just Vietnam from the sounds of it
There you are Mochyn, Bluebirds find dovetails with my ; ‘Saad has powerful / important contacts’
@Straw
“He most certainly would know the Al-Hilli in Iraqi Airlines who was forced to give up his wife to Saddam.”
It wasn’t an Al Hilli. His name was Nour al-Din Saffi. Just keeping the record straight.
@Katie
2 Nov, 2012 – 1:07 pm
You can’t say I’m way off the mark, because you know no more than I do.
We will just have to agree to disagree until more evidence emerges.
Anyway,keep digging into LaRouche and keep an open mind.
Don’t forget that Larouche is also both anti-Israeli and anti-semitic.
Mochyn, I meant way off the mark from what I’m saying.
There’s loads on LaRouche, they don’t even seem to be secretive. So apart from their mo I just don’t see them committing these murders any more than AQ or Mossad.
As was Saad by this time, Kathy. As is Mr X, he is a sponsor of that Palestinian group & in fact has building projects underway in Palestine.
Imagine him buying info from Cezus to use not only in Iraq but in Palestine too !!
@Kathy
2 Nov, 2012 – 12:59 pm
When the Sun visited the area recently, talked to the locals etc, they wrote that it was believed CS had been giving birth to Molliers son. Strange for me to use the word “believed”, but maybe of no importance.
“The Sun can reveal that Sylvain lived with a pretty young pharmacist called Claire Schutz, who is believed to have given birth to his baby in June.
He also shared his semi-detached home with his two teenage sons from a previous marriage. The property appeared abandoned when our reporter called this week.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4600767/sun-visits-murder-scene-of-saad-al-hill-and-family-in-alps.html#ixzz2AF5bLyoj
My thanks to Felix for posting stills on Icke, of the house, a really lovely setting, but whet I still cannot view is ‘ the strange marks on the road ‘ which Tim mentioned, I just cannot get the videos to play.
@Katie
2 Nov, 2012 – 1:07 pm
Remind me, which state is it that has the policy of targeted killings known in Hebrew as “focused foiling” (Hebrew: סיכול ממוקד sikul memukad)??
Just saying..
Bluebird, congratulations with your finds! I hope you realise that you need to back them up with screenshots of those immigration papers and what else proof you’ve got [otherwise mo one will believe it – and journalists are too lazy to carry out this research themselves] and put them on Icke.
I really don’t understand what should be the problem with posting it on Icke. If it’s a technical problem (you don’t know how to take screenshots and putting them on a webpage to get a URL and then place the image on Icke – I’m sure that Felix could communicate some emailadress to you where you could send what you’ve find for Felix to publish it.
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The Edge
Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting confirmation plus maps of possible access/escape routes of the murderers.
Katie
2 Nov, 2012 – 1:30 pm
Saad was anti-Israeli but judging by his Jewish friends, not anti-semitic and in fact the friend who spoke of his anti-Israeli stance, made that distinction. Of course Israel likes to muddy the water by conflating the two so that anyone who is anti-Israel is accused of anti-semitism.
Sensible assertion/distinction, Kathy, but let us in this context also remember that it is perfectly legitimate to be anti-semite, just like it is to be anti-Arab or anti-Welch or whatever…
Incidentally, the rise in anti-semitism recorded for instance in France [With its large immigrant minority from former French dependentories/colonies in North Africa from 2003, correlates perfectly with events unfolding at that time in the occupyed territories.
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The Edge
Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting confirmation plus maps of possible access/escape routes of the murderers.
More on that present geopolitical situation I keep banging on about:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/31/us-warns-israel-strike-iran?INTCMP=SRCH
Kenneth
Hard to see how Arabs can be accused of anti-semitism since they are semitic themselves. I don’t agree with your remarks about prejudice is fine btw.
No I didn’t say it is fine, but its a fact of life that people don’t like some other [people].
Normally you just don’t see these bouts of generalised anti…manifestations, – that’s why I mentioned the rise of [what is commonly termed as] anti-semitism — but what is in effect anti-Israelism — in France after, say, 2002. It will be remembered that Israel at that time was cracking down hard on the Palestinians in the West Bank, smashing the headquarters of the PA in Ramallah (and delivering Polonium poisoned chocolate to Arafat – something that a French and a Swiss team now is going to ascertain) – skillfully aligning themselves to the wider socalled War on Terror (sic), American slang for what in English would be called something like: Assault against Terrorism,- provided any decent Englishman would ever take such obfuscating words into his mouth.
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The Edge
Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting
confirmation plus maps of possible access/escape
routes of the murderer(s).
@ Kenneth
Ok I misread it sorry. As I see it, the war on terrorism is an entire fiction written in Hollywood.
Hear, hear – because different peoples at different times all take this measure into use, but Israelis are always going toi stay put at the eastern Meditaraennean seabord (that’s what they themselves believe anyway) so they might as well brand all other legitimate protest against someone as terror, and hide under the subsequent cloak of the aforementioned War on Terror</em< in order to crack down on their own domestic 'protest's – the Intifada2 as it were, which has now been completely crushed. But action leads top re-action — I think Newton was aware of that. and sooner or later their deepfelt indicnation will manifest itself in a spectacular terror-incident. You don't have to be professor to predict that. all I say is, let's act preventively and close down Israel before its actions cause yet more havoc in the world.
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The Edge
Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting
confirmation plus maps of possible access/escape
routes of the murderer(s).
@straw
Regarding Omar Latif
I hope that I did my best, but perhaps that wasn’t enough.
I couldn’t verify any UK address for Omar Latif, not now nor in the past, simply because there are TOO MANY different Omar Latif guys. However, I found some history links.
99% this guy is called either “Omar Abdul Latif” or “Omar Abd al-Latif” in Arab countries. In the UK his name was shortened (as usual) to Omar Latif. There are two residences, one in Belgium and one in Spain, that could fit to Omar Abdul Latif. However, no chance to confirm that without excessive work.
He had a brother, Hani Abd al-Latif Tulfah al Tikriti.
He must have been a cousin linked to the Tulfah family (Saddam’s mother’s family) and Hani al-Latif was therefore a relative of Saddam (most likely he was a first grade cousin). Omar Abd al-Latif was most likely his brother, and therefore he must have been a second grade cousin of Saddam Hussein. His brother Hani was 7th on the “most wanted list” in the USA.
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Special_Security_Organization
Omar Abd al-Latif hasn’t just been Manager of the London office of Iraqi airlines (following Ali al Hilli), but it was also said that he was the head of Iraqi intelligence service in the Iraqi embassy in London. Kathy is correct that Ali al Hilli was the manager of Iraqi airways in London(!!) but he was never head of Iraqi airways. You are mixing him up with the former husband of Samira. That guy became head of Iraqi airways, while Ali was “just” head of the London office, like lateron Ali’s job had Omar Abdul Latif.
However, although I have no confirmed knowledge about his whereabouts today, I have found three very interesting press articles with much more information regarding his nuclear smuggling. Two of those articles name a lot of Iraqi’s and even Swedisch and British companies involved in that smuggling ring. Worth reading, I tell you!
I hope that the below links and the above information are sufficient for the moment.
One sidenote: There is a terrorist named “Omar Latif” from Cardiff mentioned in various news articles. This one is NOT the Omar Latif from Iraqi airways we are out for. This is a different one and apparently there are NO family links either.
Below:
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http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-dossiers/nbm/nuclear-black-market-dossier-a-net-assesment/nuclear-black-markets-other-countries-and-ne/
Mentions UK., French, Belgium, German and particularly Swedish companies with nuclear trade with Iraq. There are many names and companies listed. Time for investigation! Take your time to read that!
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1991-01-13/iraqs-silent-allies-in-its-quest-for-the-bomb
Mentions UK, French, Belgium, German and particularly Swedish companies with nuclear trade with Iraq. There are many names and companies listed. Time for investigation! Take your time to read that!
More details about the smuggling (copy/paste article):
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Momentarily taken aback, Supnick was curious about my intelligence contacts. But he understood when I explained my sources would not be helpful in the future if I identified them now.
What mattered was that Supnick had coordinated the sting that conned Iraq into thinking it was acquiring those 40 “nuclear triggers” on the sneak from CSI.
When the trap was finally sprung on the loading area at Heathrow Airport, it had netted an Iraqi broker with dual British citizenship, a Lebanese engineer and a French female accomplice.
Of far greater importance, though, was the nailing of Latif, who’d masterminded the attempted acquisition.
Omar Latif was a highly ranked member of Saddam’s pernicious Mukhabarat, or Political Secret Police, which was trained by the Kremlin’s own KGB after the Iraqi-Soviet Friendship Treaty was sealed in 1972.
Mukabarat agents almost always were listed on local embassy staffs, so they could claim diplomatic immunity from arrest and questioning if their illegal activities came to light.
But to facilitate his spying on anti-Saddam activists in exile, Latif was assigned less restrictive cover as London manager of Iraqi Airways.
After the Anglo-American sting was finalized on the Heathrow tarmac, this meant Latif could have been held for intense grilling as to why Iraq, a supposedly non-nuclear nation, had an apparently present need for “nuclear triggers.”
Instead, Britain’s Foreign Office intervened, without explanation, and a top spy was flown back to Baghdad.
If Omar Latif had been questioned first, who knows how much better informed the U.N. might be now about Iraq’s nuclear potential?
Mochyn, I have no Idea. Just sayi’. 😉
Kathy, BUT, were they friends or simply neighbours & colleagues .
I agree, that there’s a difference in being anti- semitic & anti-zionist.
Bluebird,
Great postings, I enjoyed this last paragraph you pasted, that all ties in very well.
I’m so sure this is about Iraq more than Iran.
@NR: Thanks for all that. Still reading. The incredibly good-looking guy obviously had some political intent re: packages sent. Montreal is such a hotbed for so many things. Now that I think of it, Airbus has a certain contact there (bundles of cash in brown paper envelopes). And so much more.
@NR: Subtext understood.
Trouble at the top of Iraqi government:
“Mr Allawi is thought to be the first member of the national unity government to resign since it was formed in 2010.
Last year, Electricity Minister Raad Shallal al-Ani, an independent who was nominated by Iraqiyya, was sacked after allegedly authorising £1.1bn ($1.7bn) of improper contracts for power stations with foreign companies.
Vice-President Tariq al-Hashemi, Iraq’s most senior Sunni Arab politician and a leading member of Iraqiyya, is meanwhile on trial in absentia, accused of financing a sectarian death squad targeting Shia officials.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19391328
Great Find!
The Oufi (al Oufi) family – (remember Freddie Oufi whose business was posted yesterday) who grew up for more than 10 years in the same Putney house where the Hashim al Hilli family lived,
are Iraqi Christians!!!!!!!
Saad, Zaid, Balsam and Ali grew up together with Iraqi Christian family in London who lived in the same house(!!) in the 1970tees with Balsam and Ali al Hilli.
http://www.chaldean.org.uk/meso28.pdf