Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • NR

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1349584/posts

    According to a May 2004 U.S. Defense Department report to the inspector general, a former financier and close associate of Saddam Hussein, Nadhmi Auchi, has “engaged in unlawful activities” such as bribing “foreign governments and individuals prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom to turn opinion against the American-led mission to remove Saddam Hussein.

    Auchi is the single largest principle shareholder in BNP Paribas,”

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/17/133225.shtml

    Top among these is the European-based BNP Paribas bank, which the U.N. chose to administer the program and which reportedly received nearly $1 billion for its efforts. Congressional investigators reviewing the bank’s actions have discovered broken rules, missing documents and improper transfers by BNP Paribas, which up until now has been assumed to be a French bank.

    In fact, BNP Paribas is actually controlled by Power Corporation, an appropriately named Canadian company that has a shocking track record of ‘business’ relationships with the worst gangsters and tyrannical regimes in the world.

    BNP Paribas also has one other distinguishing feature: a direct corporate and familial relationship with the persons running the government of Canada for the last 20 years.

    The truth about BNP Paribas and Power Corp. sheds a new light on Canada’s seemingly bizarre anti-American foreign policy in the Middle East, in China and elsewhere.

    BNP Paribas bank is part of a holding company, Pargesa Holding, which is jointly owned and controlled by the Frère and Desmarais families. Paul Desmarais Sr. is the chairman of the group, while Albert Frère is the vice-chairman. Gerald Frère, Albert’s son, is one of three general managers who oversee day-to-day operations, and Paul Desmarais Jr. is also an officer.

    Pargesa, and thus Power Corporation and the Canadian Desmarais family, holds a controlling significant stake in TotalFina Elf, the Belgian-French petroleum multinational corporation formed from the merger of Total and Petrofina.

    BNP Paribas and TotalFina may have blood-stained corporate histories, but the intimate and intricate connections of Power Corp. to Canada’s governing elite raise the truly disturbing questions.

    Power Corporation CEO Andre Desmarais is the son-in-law of former Prime Minister Jean Chretien, who went out of his way to oppose U.S. intervention in Iraq, where the family’s business interests with the Saddam regime would be jeopardized.

    Current Canadian PM Paul Martin is a former Power Corporation employee who made his fortune when he bought Canada Steamship Lines from Power Corp. aided by loans from Power Corp. To this day both CSL and Power are reported to have mutual equity interests in each other.

    The most senior foreign affairs/international trade adviser to current Canadian PM Paul Martin is Maurice Strong, former CEO of Power Corp. and a longtime U.N. and Kofi Annan adviser. …

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bae-faces-revolt-over-eads-deal-133030544.html
    Press Association – Sun, Oct 7, 2012 Defence giant BAE Systems has just four days before it has to agree the deal. France and Germany must reduce their stakes in European aerospace giant EADS if the [UK] Government is to allow a proposed merger with BAE Systems to go ahead, Defence Secretary Philip Hammond has warned.

    Below is a comment made by someone on an unrelated matter. Don’t know if true or a smear.

    I think another favorite tactic (it was used by Lyndon LaRouche people) – is killing pets – this causes far more distreess to the victim than other crimes with similar penalties. BK et al are looking for crimes that are both hard to detect and legally minor, as well as being potentially very hazardous. And the fact of the charging crime being minor also means it won’t be too rigorously investigated.

    Were there any pets killed around Annecy? The cow perhaps, as a warning that wasn’t heeded.

  • bluebird

    Straw

    I just printed the document where Nadhmi Owchi changed his name officially in the USA to Auchi. He lived in the USA when they changed this document in the 1960tees officially. Before he was Owchi. His ancestors lived in the USA since the late 1890tees and his grandfather was judge at the USA supreme (superior) court in Billings Montana. Auchi is a Christian American since his birth in the USA.

    Do you like this find? His grand father a US supreme court judge? Isn’t the supreme court in Billings Montana famous for some special things? I just cant remember what this was.

    Everyday a new surprise covert by bluebird ….

  • bluebird

    Sorensen

    Your knowledge of history hurts. It really hurts.

    In 1932 the one part of the Iraqis became anti british. In 1938-1941 the british had war in iraq because one iraqi group did seek support from Hitler and the NAZI airforce did support them. In 1941 roosevelt (son) went into iraq with some special troops in 1941 to support the british. Special forces are usually specially trained elite forces doing intelligence in Iraq and organising resistance. They are specially trained Iraqis. The americans did the same from 1941 with austrian and german jews and communists. I will have a look whether they were trained in ann arbour airfield, too. The austrians and germans were used as intelligence, with their knowledge about language, locations and society, as well as counter terrorists, organising resistance. Called 05 in Austria and Southern Germany. I am sure that they did the same preoarations with Iraqis in Ann Arbour.

  • bluebird

    Felix. I saw the berlin phone book 2 weeks ago. “Irish” people have easy access to german language and german phone books. However, calm down, this is a scan error regarding ancient German print letters. The real name is Hillinger and this is a German name and has nothing to do with him. Btw. He would have been 12 in 1930 and not in a phonebook. So forget that please. It is just a simple scan error because in germany 1930 they did not use the same letters that we are using today.

    Another thing. It is funny to see how the right wing jew haters on this blog, Sorensen and troy are getting nervous as soon as the proof we collected is moving the investigation into CIA and Larouche.

  • bluebird

    The name of this supreme court judge in Bullings Montana in pre WW2 was Abramo Auchi (Owchi).

    Perhaps our American friends will find papers about the Supreme (superior) court judges in Billings and about what he was judging there.

  • Katie

    Straw, with all those American connections, one does wonder.

    Saad had knowledge of corruption on Mr X in Chicago & how he funded Obama’s house purchase & won the contract for a huge Riverside development as soon as O became president, smear X & you smear Obama…..& his biggest fundraiser…… who convieniently, for appearances sake is in jail right now.

    Obama is one big deceiver when it comes to his past,have you never wondered why a stream of ex-girlfriends have not done a kiss n tell & sold their stories ?

    Well here are the ‘rumours’ & how they were silenced:

    All 3 Homosexual Members Of Obama’s Trinity Church Murdered Within 6 Weeks.

    In late May, Wash. DC-based investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay club, Man’s Country.
    Madsen also reported on Obama’s sexual relationships with other men, including named D.C. politicians and Donald Young, the openly-gay choir-director of the church in Chicago of which Obama was a member for some 20 years — Jeremy Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ black liberation theology.

    There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:

    Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
    Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
    Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007.
    Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE:

    http://rense.com/general82/cdet.htm

    http://patdollard.com/2011/11/mother-of-obamas-murdered-gay-lover-speaks-up/

    How useful has this nuclear connection been to lay a false trail ?

  • Katie

    Bluebird the Iraqis spelt it Awji for his trial, see my 8-13 post.

    NR.

    Yes I posted that link already. Good to see you taking an interest in this man.

  • bluebird

    Question for those of you who are wise:

    Do the endings in Russian names (vich) in the times of the Russian Csar mean “son of …” ??? Like the Nordic Anders…son or Peters…son.
    Like Abramo…vich, son of Abramo?

    Do you understand what i am trying to investigate? (you might understand only if you read my other messages of today)

  • bluebird

    Katie

    Forget the translation of the iraqi arab letters. I have a US issued document where he changed his name officially. The americans used the original documents issued in the usa.
    Since he has 2 first names, a mix up is impossible!
    The iraqis use arab writing. Obviously a western translator translated what he thought there was. His original name is Owchi. 100%
    However, abramo auchi already used the name Auchi in the USA, too.
    I have the documents.

  • NR

    @ Q
    “@NR: A certain boss has returned to Mtl. First stop: his dentist. That story could get interesting.”

    The Casablanca restaurant in New York was involved in the thing that the boss went away for. Think it was owned by one of those deceased. Then there was a mysterious fire at a funeral home in Montreal. Confessions by arsonists, but they would not say why.

    “Big corruption scandal going on, too.”

    I followed pieces of that. Testimony by Donny Brasco, etc. We don’t need Casablanca & Dubai for the plot, Montreal & Canada have sufficient corruption and intrigue.

    “There is some question whether the plane was the one flown by the former VIP pilot, who flew the Q. around (not moi).”
    “Concordia is known to be interesting for many reasons.”

    I know only of it’s reputation in computer science and engineering, work on animation & video gaming, and AVSEC.

    “SABRE: See who owns it, and how it is connected to this story. Satellites are a competitive business. Bigger isn’t better when it comes to price.”

    Saw part ownership by Bain. Didn’t catch a connection to satellites.

  • Katie

    Good explanation, thanks BB.

    SO…….do you think there ‘could’ be an Obama connection to this crime ?

  • bluebird

    Katie

    That document was issued in 1990 by the state of michigan where he apparently has a house since there are addresses.
    He was born August 14 1958.

    He updated
    Natheir Shakeir Owchi
    To
    Nather Shaker Auchi

    However, your Iraqi document wss extremely helpful to confirm (by first names) that this is our guy. Before I was not sure because of the first names and because I thought that he were older.
    Does the supreme court in Billings have any history records where we could find the name of Abramo Auchi as a judge? I am sure that supreme court judges sign with their names. Must be 1924 and lateron, perhaps before, too.

    Now I must find out whether Abramo had a son called “son of Abramo”, namely Arkady Abramovich.

  • bluebird

    Katie

    Obama connections?

    I dont know. I know about Rezko. I know that Auchi has a residence in Michigan at least since tge 1980tees. Those are the only links I have. Of course it is likely that he did fund his election. But that is not a crime.

  • Katie

    BB, there is much more, the man funded the house purchsed by O, it is wrong to fund a candidate & get favours in return, also Auchi wants his ban lifted, because of his conviction in France he was no longer allowed into the states.
    However he did fly by private jet to a function to meet O………all denied.
    He also gained the Riverside development.

    This was all in our broadsheet papers & withdrawn under threat of litigation from A.
    But photos do not lie.

    http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/03/23/wikileaks-on-the-auchi-rezko-blago-connection/

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/category/auchi/

  • kathy

    @Felix/Katie

    Guess what happened after me posting the link to his photo, I was googling him and clicked on a link and my computer totally crashed! Sinister or what?!!! Maybe it is because that class photo reveals he was a bit of a dunce at school as he was obviously in a class too young for his age. In Iraq, if you don’t pass your class exams, you have to keep re-sitting them until you do pass before you are allowed to proceed to the next class. However, it doesn’t appear to have done him any harm in the long run. Cue computer crash now!

  • Katie

    Scary Kathy !

    I thought he looked rather taller than his class mates in that photo,no wonder.

    He didn’t need to be clever academically ,all he needed were contacts & a lack of morals. I still can’t see how he made money ‘honestly’ in Iraq, it had to be filched from government because he was too young to have made a fortune before arriving in the UK.

  • bluebird

    Katie, I am far advanced with the Obama-Rezko-Auchi history connections. However, to trigger that bomb I should better wait until November 7th. I will post a little bit about what I know about Rezko’s history by now,….. later.

    Kathy,

    wikipedia is a produkt of the world’s ministry of truth. If you’re rich, you will be able to update wikipedia in that sense how you would want to have it. In fact, if you are powerful and rich, you can even try to successfully update the whole internet. Mr. X has already done that before and I am sure that the UK press and media is afraid of him. Therefore that crucial silence.

  • kathy

    @ Bluebird

    So, if he had emigrated to America with his family, how come he was at Baghdad College in 1956? I provided the link to his class photo. You must have the wrong Auchi is all I can think.

  • Tim V

    Kempe 3 Nov, 2012 – 3:02 am I take your good point. I’m not sure that the implement used to cause the head injury to Zainab has been conclusively established. Most probably a gun but I suppose not exclusively. For example on one video piece two days after the event, the reporter lifts a large round stone covered in blood which could have been used presumably. Can you imagine though, in passing, the British police leaving a blood covered “pebble” abandoned at a crime scene of this seriousness, for journalists to handle? Unbelievable.

  • bluebird

    kathy, you might be right. But then, the Auchi whom Katie quoted is also the wrong one in that Iraqi report. We have the names Natheir Shakeir Owchi (Auchi, Awji), however you might translate that name. I think that you are right because as I said earlier, I had thought that Auchi must be older than 55. Something must be wrong here or else some data got confused deliberately (you know, the ministry of truth!).

    However, wait for my bomb regarding Tony Rezko and Obama!

  • bluebird

    katie, you will love that. Do you have google maps available! Make it available!

    Tony Rezko

    Real and correct name: Antoin Said Rezko
    Born 15 July 1955

    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL,
    from 1992: 853 N Elston Ave, Chicago, IL
    from 1996: 2750 Charlie CT, Glenview, IL,

    Father: Said Rezekallah Rezko 1 Jan 1937 – 13 Feb 2008
    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL
    from 1996: 5852 S Archer Ave # 1, Chicago, IL,

    Brother: Aboud Said Rezko, born Oct 15 1953
    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL,
    from 1994: 1524 Forest Ave, River Forest, IL,

    Sister Sarah Said Rezko, born 1 Aug 1950
    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL,
    from 1991: 5322 S Latrobe Ave, Chicago, IL
    from 1995: 2750 Charlie CT, Glenview, IL,
    from 1995: 5338 S Long Ave, Chicago, IL,

    Sister: Rita Said Rezko, born 10 Nov 1962
    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL,
    from 1995: 2750 Charlie CT, Glenview, IL,
    from 1995: 409 W Huron St FL 6, Chicago, IL,

    Sister: Victoria Said Rezko, born 29 Dec 1961
    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL
    from 1993: 5322 S Latrobe Ave, Chicago, IL,

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Obama’s house in Chicago:

    5046 S.Grenwood ave, Chicago IL

    So far this isn’t exciting.
    But now enter Obama’s address into google maps and then enter Rezko’s address into google maps where he and his family lived:

    5109 S Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL,

    +++++++

    Bingo or just coincidence? More about Auchi after November 6th (if that blog is still open to post by then).

  • bluebird

    Katie,

    Obama’s address should reen “Greenwood ave” but not “Grenwood” as I had mistyped it.

    I wonder if it is coincidence that the KAM Isaiah is next to Obama’s house and Rezko’s family house. Do we know what the KAM Isaiah really does and what they are standing for? There’s not much on the internet other than some official statemnents. Seems to be a secret and very conservative sect. I wonder whether or not Larouche is a member there.

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    There is a synagogue right next to Obama’s house, and some Jews living right next to it. I just know this is connectin with a newsstory I saw, – a, yea I remember. It was the bomb which someonne tryed to send in as and ink cartridge from Sama in Yemen, ann the adress was to that synagogue. Thats how I know there is a synagogue right next to the Obamas former residence in Chicago.

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    The Edge

    Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
    family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting
    confirmation plus maps showing possible access/
    escape routes used by the killer(s).

  • Tim V

    Back to the rather minor fact of the family passports being in the floor well of the driver’s side. I have seen no opinions on this here or elsewhere. Normally one would keep such important documents in a safer place like the “glove box”, unless that is the driver wanted them immediately handy to show someone to prove their identity without necessarily getting out of the car. Or another explanation he was holding them whilst he was outside with Zainab and Mollier waiting for a third party to arrive. When the (unexpected) attack started and SAH rushed back to the car, no time to put them away, so just dropped on the floor?

  • Kenneth Sorensen

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    – because the whole area was sealed off and some Jews could not get to their home, but they said to the press that this was no big deal cause they were used to it from the time when the Obamas lived there

    Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
    family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting
    confirmation plus maps showing possible access/
    escape routes used by the killer(s).

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    I guess me mentioning “Jews” just shut Bluebird up. The digging stops now, Bluebird said to himself.

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    The Edge

    Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
    family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting
    confirmation plus maps showing possible access/
    escape routes used by the killer(s).

  • Kenneth Sorensen

    It’s of course also interesting to know if any Jews are involved in the corruption in Chicago, which Blagojevich (whose family comes from the former Yugoslavia) was framed for (by a Jewish judge) – or are they just smarter to — when they give politicians money — to do it within the confines of the law?

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    The Edge

    Latest layout of the transcribed interview and
    family link between Hashim and Saad awaiting
    confirmation plus maps showing possible access/
    escape routes used by the killer(s).

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