The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Brooker. If their job were flawless we would not discuss here and media would have reported one day only in a small footnote.
Brooker
They did not use a car bomb because they did need something that was in the car or someting that was rather on the roof of that car. You dont blow up $ 10 mio in cash nor do you blow up WMD devices.
Why bring MEK or Hezbollah into all of this, MEK are tied up in Iran bumping of scientists or botched false flags, note after the bungled ones in India and Thailand they’ve given that up.
And Hezbollah are tied up with the civil war in Syria.
Do either have a record of worldwide assasanation?
I thought it wasnt Aldermaston any more. Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Weapons_Establishment
Now part owned by Jacobs Eng Group a US company.
“If their job were flawless”
It was, everyone’s dead, the police have been sorted, and the media silenced, and the public has already forgotten.
Note the stunning silence.
Job well done.
Unable to confirm Swindon only the map on the speculative ‘Scotland Yard’ blog has Swindon ringed.
Swindon so far only shown up as the original company address for Shtech Ltd’s former company name.
“They did not use a car bomb because they did need something that was in the car or someting that was rather on the roof of that car.”
Did they even open the doors?
Mission, kill everyone, job done.
There was no secret roofrack or car load of bombs, at most Frenchman may have had a memory stick, mission was to stop the exchange of information or the grooming of a new inside man, the whole thing was over in seconds.
A warning to others inside the French nuclear industry?
@Straw
Aldermaston is the name of a village after which RAF Aldermaston is named, approx 2 miles away. Hence being loosely referred to as “Aldermaston”.
Now called AWE Atomic Weapons Establishment as you say.
“The Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) is responsible for the design, manufacture and support of warheads for the United Kingdom’s nuclear deterrent. AWE plc is responsible for the day-to-day operations of AWE. AWE plc is owned by a consortium of Jacobs Engineering Group, Lockheed Martin UK and Serco through AWE Management Ltd who hold a 25 year contract (until March 2025) to operate AWE. All AWE sites remain owned by the UK government who also hold a Golden Share in AWE plc.[1] The company is based close to Aldermaston (although the nearest town is Tadley in Hampshire), with major facilities at Burghfield.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Weapons_Establishment
Note the UK Government retains a Golden Share (ie can outvote all other shareholders on certain things).
Burghfield facilities would have been the ones Dopey mentioned?
Bluebird.
RE: MKO , here is more on them including names of victims, I see an Al Safer & an Albadi on the list.
No occupation given for AS.
http://www.habilian.ir/en/A-List-Of-16400-Terror-Victims-in-Iran.html
Am I reading this wrong?
Does the MEK being delisted from the Terrorist list mean that they can now be financed above the table rather than beneath it?
I see ‘the boys’ have been at it again.
Funny how not one of them has remembered the Pakstani the police were looking for….. the one AH had been chatting to before his departure…the one he met in the chat room.
Think about it.
Bluebird.
Page 14 of that link:
Khosro Ali Abadi Safar 1/29/1955 Revolutionary guard 6/4/1980 Armed ambush Hashtrood Hashtrood East Aberbaijan
@Dopey
Where is the Burghfield facility of the AWE… is that near Reading also?
“Does the MEK being delisted from the Terrorist list mean that they can now be financed above the table rather than beneath it?”
Yep, nobody has the balls to attack Iran yet, but but funding and tooling up MEK the hope will be that they’ll be a civil war or that our new proxy can weaken Iran before and attack.
Iraq mk2.
“Where is the Burghfield facility of the AWE… is that near Reading also?”
To load up his caravan with nuclear material out AWE’s backdoor before handing it over to a Frenchman on a bicycle for onward transport over the alps to Switzerland?
No.
They key to this is giving up on the far fetched plots and concentrating on the little information we do have, to come up with a realistic explanation.
… or Libya Mk2, Syria Mk2… etc etc
Same MO every time
@Dave
We’re talking about where Saad might have worked, to have had links to nuclear weapons research.
“Unable to confirm Swindon only the map on the speculative ‘Scotland Yard’ blog has Swindon ringed”
They’ve just made a map from the little that they know, business registered to Swindon, MIL collected in Reading and house in Claygate, and then off to Dover for the ferry.
Dave, well said, there are too many flights of fancy going on.
So Dopey, where is the Burghfield facility exactly, is it near Reading?
Ferret how do you square AH doing nuclear research without security clearance ?
Katie,
The D-Notice tells us he is otherwise why put it in there?
@katie i know.
The al saffar family is supporting the sahar foundation and so is al maliki and allawi supporting that foundation.
I am not saying that Hezbollah are the good guys and MEK are the bad ones. Both organisations have their goals and both are using terrorist attacks and assassinations as a matter of fact as a matter of fact, they are deadly enemies and hezbollah hates MEK more than Israel while MEK hates nobody more than Hezbollah.
To support the smuggling route into switzerland by mountain bikes on tracks:
http://www.alpsmountainbike.com/mountain_biking/Tour_of_Mont_Blanc.php
The hiking route from ugine to switzerland is a traditional smuggling route slready used in WW2. (day 1 of that tour in the link)
“We’re talking about where Saad might have worked, to have had links to nuclear weapons research.”
James had the right idea.
Clearly he’s spent time in Dubai.
So he’s brought up in London, they family then buy the house in Claygate, and he works as an engineer for various aerospace companies.
Then in Dubai (Iran’s middleman country) he’s groomed as a go-between, but our services use him as a double agent.
Once back in blighty he settles down as a family man, only then dad croaks, and a large amount of money is needed to buy his brother stake of the family home and to pay the inheritance tax, where might an enterprising middle man get some quick cash?
Sounds like we are going over a lot of old ground we have already covered in the old thread!
Why does it now help to have the ‘smuggled item’ in Switzerland rather than France?
“To support the smuggling route into switzerland by mountain bikes on tracks”
It’s not WW2, we have vans, lorries and containers, and why send stuff to land bound Switzerland?
They’d want it all going to Rotterdam or Turkey, much easier.
“Sounds like we are going over a lot of old ground we have already covered in the old thread!”
Innit.
So how reliable do we think is the stuff that was posted on Indymedia?
Stick to to the Aldermaston thing…
Who could SAH have known there? Who did he work with that worked there? Is it connected to anything we know about him, his life, his work, eg RAL? Is Gary Aked connected to Aldermaston?
Brooker:
Delisting off a terror list means no more than they can have access to weapon deliveries, weapon transportation and international financial organisations and free banj transfers world wide. Also previously frozen bank accounts could get accessed again now.
Ss a listed terror organisation like hezbollah you are dependent on money laundering, cash smuggling and weapon smuggling to fund your armed members.