The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
In Sherlocks a href=”http://www.libramemoria.com/fr/carnet/ugine/savoie/frederic-brun-da3f9c55c47040baaf8d0d2182a6770a.html”>link, we learn that F´rederics nickname was Brindille [~twig].
Sorensen
I did submit all the brun links to this forum including saloon cathy and his beauty saloon address long ago, perhaps this is in the old blog. I know exactly all his addresses and his profession. The new thing is that new detective and investigation link that i posted today. This is a to be considered possibiliy. And yes, he is Jewish and the detective office, too. However, that knowledge does not bring us forward other than for conspiracy theories.
Felix
I hope you come forward in comparing the video with google street view.
Felix
Hind is living in the palladium towers on that Canada address. The towers are owned by PalladiumTowers Ltd. There is also a Palladium Tower in Dubai. And thrre is the NA Palladium Ltd in Canada that does gold mining, rare metals mining, and uranium mining.
Is NA Palladium ltd owned by the Auchi imperium.
Katie, you are a specialist in auchi companies! Pls tell us.
Felix, I have taken some screenshots of the hairdresser, but will not bother to go through the process of uploading them and placing them on Icke, if you do the same.
Bluebird, let’s just make it crystal clear: You said “he” was Jewish. You mean David or you mean Fréderic. It not any conspiracy, its just 1) plain interest and 2) could be of importance if any actors from the Middle east in any way is suspected to be involved in this and 3) This interest of mine is no different from when several of you has expressed curiosiity of whether SM is a Muslim from Algeria.
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Bluebird said:
Thank-you Kenneth, no I use Safari which is fantastic. BUT, yes I should have used FF when Safari failed to open the clip. However I have now tried with FF & all I got is the SFR advert…then I spotted that HD was off so switched that on & presto !
Merci bien !
As I cannot get France 24 TV, even though I live in France, I wasn’t surprised at the failure to view a French clip.
Bluebird said:
Yes you are great Bluiebird, although Sherlock’s link to that condolance page should be commended as well. So you know his adresses – what are they, and his profession? Do you think it is probable that he runs a”beauty salon” as well as an investigative bureau?
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Brindille
A Frenchman just tild me that “Brindille” is used in common mobster slang to define a “QUIET OBSERVER”
Could somebody please reconfirm that with another native french? That would be something!
What physical or other traits of his could merit him being called a twig? I’m at a loss at this, as with so many things.
Sorensen
He ran the beaty saloon on #12 and he lived in #5. Cathy saloin is in #5. I dont know whether or not he did run that. But Cathy coiffur says “hairdressing and beauty”.
I dont think that he ran the Brun investigation company. But i think that he was a Brindille and a branch of their 73rd district investigation part Haute Savoie.
Sorensen. I already wrote what brindille apperently means in french mobster slang. We need reconfirmation. However, knowing what the insect called “Brindille” does and looks like, this is logic.
We also hear at the end of the video that he used to cycle every week, and that he went “all over the massif, i.e. mountains on his bike, which then of course must have been a mountain bike, like the ones we see in the video. So it is odd if he on that fatal day should have chosen a street bike worth 5,000 EUR.
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Got reconfirmation
Brindille
means
quiet observer
in french mobster slang.
BINGO
4x4pajero, dark green. Brindille alone sitting on the backseat. No drivers. Crashing from a mountain. Brindille dead No quiet observer who could tell what he had seen.
Unless he like the Al Hillis wanted to make a good impression on someone. But surely BM could tell which kind of bike it was?
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Yeah, right…”In French mobster-slang” but this is jokely tongue-in-cheek, presented on a kind of official memorial place where family and friends come. This shouldn’t be taken so seroiusly as you suggest.
Can you confirm that both Fréderic and Daniel were Jews?
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And if you begin asking why a twig could be a quiet observer in mobster slang?
I got the explanation from a frenchman. Brindille is an insect that lokks like a twig. You wont see it although it sits next to you.
Bluebird I have Google Earht open now, Could you please give the name of the road again?
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Okay take it easy. I just had an inspired moment and typed : “Cathy coiffeur, Ugine, France” into Google. [And it’s on avenue Jules Bianco]
I don’t know where it comes from, but sometimes I have inspired moments like that.
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Sorensen. Thanks for your bright moment.
I posted the link with address 1 hour ago.
Brun had his beauty saloon on #12. That is exactly opposite of #5.
Cathy coiffeur is #5
Brun lived in #5.
#12 was his business.
However, we need confirmation whether or not his ex wife was working in cathy coiffur.
This is the insect Brindille.
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/11/13/88/90/brindi10.jpg
You cant see it when it is next to you because it looks like a twig and doesnt move at all. Franch mobsters use that for nicknaming a quiet observer.
Brun did not look like a twig. According to his picture he was well overweight. Brun was tge silent observer, the Brindille.
If GMH are involved it will be through their instruction company Soludec,but I can find nothing up to date.
There are large Palladian developments in Turkey too.
For GMH this ia old news:
The US and Canadian investment properties continue to generate regular rental income for the Group with the property values showing a steady rise.
A new US development venture, is the 62-acre Riverside Park project located along the south branch of the Chicago River. This multi million plan envisions
a vibrant new pedestrian-oriented community and will comprise condominiums and town houses, retail units and malls with parking for some 9,500 vehicles.
Construction is expected early in 2006.
Another first is the 74-acre Pallada City project in Moscow in collaboration with Russia’s Krasbank. Located on the banks of the Klayazma Water Basin it
incorporates luxury residential housing and shopping centre with an adjacent yacht club with moorings for 250 yachts, in a picturesque setting of water basin
and a forest.
@Katie
Thanks for video link – too much for me to keep track of.
I echo what Kenneth says about Firefox – takes things like scibed much better.
Will get my head around Mollier later…
Great post Marlin 4 Nov, 2012 – 2:08 am. One of the best overviews I have seen so far. You have probably aready come across my early attempt to flag up some of the anomalies at http://something-stinks.com/LogoPhere%20Docs/LP-weekly01.pdf Not sure it will help you much but you may be interested to take a look if not already. Most of the points hold good but remember it was written early on and later revelations, such as they are, are not really incorporated. As to the Old Testament references bit of a long shot but yes the golden calf, the sacrifice, the reference to molten metal, to coming down from the mountain in haste, to it being on fire, of a mountain stream and ground material being thrown into, two tablets smashed, all within the context of the primary claim to geo/political legitimacy (the ten commandments) is this too great an affinity the crime scene to be mere co-incidence?
Is anybody else having probs accessing Icke? Otherwise we need a 3rd site.
Yes I am Straw, setting up a third site would be easy enough…. as long as its as simple as this one.
It’s the whole of David Icke that’s down, not just ‘our’ site. So it couldn’t have anything to do with our writings there, but of course it could have something to do with the Saville thread , but this is unlikely. It is in all probability just a technical glitch, that will be solved in due time.
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Les PHASMES (insectes brindille) = STICK INSECT
http://papillons-maizerets.niceboard.com/t37-les-phasmes-insectes-brindille
@Bluebird
4 Nov, 2012 – 12:18 pm
And of course, we know that a Frederique Brun was a member of the support committee of Solidarite at Progres. LaRouche.
Just like Sylvain Mollier.
And he ends up dead too. Just too bizarre!
No problem with davidicke.com here now.:-)
Information from Twitter this morning which may have bearing on the Icke site being down:
“@RichardJMurphy: This weekend a number of left wing web sites were systematically attacked by a hacker and taken down. Why no mention I can find in media?”
Kenneth was right -all sorts of problems mentioned in the Savile thread