The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Posted by Mollie….
Think this is him…
https://plus.google.com/109091265050…ut?gl=uk&hl=en
His address is 17 miles away from Chevaline and he is listed as a masonry contractor. Business name is Fillion-Noel-et-Fils-Maconnerie which translates as FILLION CHRISTMAS AND SON MASONRY I’m guessing the correct translation is Noel Fillion and Son Masonry!
@Ferret – it was your own Le JDD link above!
Full link:-
https://plus.google.com/109091265050190457730/about?gl=uk&hl=en
@Dave Brooker
1 Oct, 2012 – 1:52 pm
FFS, why don’t you guys read the earlier threads before weighing in? Or even use your common sense??
It could well be excellent IHT planning. You know, separate devolution of estates ..
What’s the point leaving your estate to your surviving spouse if it will then be aggregated on the second death resulting in a much heavier inheritance tax bill, wasting the first spouse’s zero rated band?
@Straw – of course Fillion-Robin. Had slipped my memory.
CD.
That maternity leave.
Yes the papers said three years, this is definitely odd in my view…what about the equivalent of our gardening leave….what if he has in fact been incriminated in some wrong doing…. [ IE: those faulty fuel rods ] and now under some sort of inquiry, legal matters tend to drag on, especially in France ?
…. but Laurent is not his real name! (changed by Le JDD, note *) Why change the name to Laurent if that is his real prenom.
So we don’t know if this is Laurent F-R. Only the Bewicks will know
And if, as James was speculating in his ‘eureka’ moment, the house didn’t ‘belong’ to SAH and his brother, but was a company asset ..
He got very excited about that, and I think he thought it led to Dubai,but I haven’t seen the evidence yet!
“FFS, why don’t you guys read the earlier threads before weighing in? Or even use your common sense??”
That’s why I asked the question.
So suddenly Al-hilli needs a big pile of money just to keep his house?
Read the old threads mate all will be revealed!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/9576799/Former-head-of-MI6-involved-in-BAE-and-EADS-merger.html
ooooh
@Felix
it was your own Le JDD link above!
Ha ha ha ha ha…. that’ll teach me to read half an article!!
🙂
you people posting here 24/7 obviously dont have money problems and have to go out to work so why dont you all get together and buy a hi-def video camera OR use your iphone5 and go knock on his brother’s door and ask him to participate in your youtube documentary expose and then go down to Chevaline and do the same with all the other characters instead of repeating this loop of dis-information ? or are you happy to leave it up to Jacques Peretti of mainstreammedia to do it when he gets round to it ?
Saad Al Hilli was most likely independently wealthy thanks to his millionaire, property-owning father, and it’s highly unlikely he needed money for anything, certainly not to keep his own house.
The idea that Saad Al Hilli needed money in a hurry is a mainstream-media myth that was dispelled a long time ago on this thread.
I find SatMagazine, especially this issue, very informative about what commericial satellities can do in preventing, and cleaning up disasters – what I suspect Iran was not up to speed about, and al-Hilli was trying to take advantage financially and politically of when he was murdered:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ht5wlcFUGvEJ:www.satmagazine.com/2011/SM_July_Aug_2011.pdf+sstl+satellites+iran+buyer&hl=sv&gl=se&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShLdONDqlO9GWG8BK7AuQd05wslO67E9gV5lB-ClJf2zvVBUn1OZtV49WaqoPD7Ev3ZePu5NAGmRfe79kC0H0FwJ0ngNH0yRG1Ippx8WjCF0xBRNjomj7KwrL0DBm5F-nrCvxAY&sig=AHIEtbTHYtQXRz-pFdnUyZUYxr-_yAgZEA
@ ferret
“thanks to his millionaire, property-owning father,”
yeah right… who lived in a £50-70K flat in Spain? if it was you wouldnt you be in Dubai?
@Trowbridge
Thanks very much – is there any chance you could post a relevant excerpt here?
Guess what a Mr Abdul Qadeer Khan use to do ?
I would describe SAH as asset rich, cash poor with what we have right now though.
If he does feel that Zaid deserves 50% of Claygate house this rings true:-
In a Skype message to Gary in October 2009, Saad told how he was looking forward to visiting Iraq to try to secure a £800,000 property deal, adding fondly: “Iraq is still warm.”
from here:-
In a Skype message to Gary in October 2009, Saad told how he was looking forward to visiting Iraq to try to secure a £800,000 property deal, adding fondly: “Iraq is still warm.”
hey james why dont you just tell us instead of sliding the thread
@Big Daddy
Shirley you can’t be serious!?!
@ straw44berry
instead of conjecture, why dont you phone his brother up and ask him? tell him about this forum.. ask him to participate… contribute to the public interest in finding justice for his brother and his nieces… or are you happy to sit there and recycle dis-information ?
I wouldnt want Zaid to be unobtainable for a single second in case I should hold up the feverish Police investigations.
@ Big Daddy 1 Oct, 2012 – 3:20 pm
For what it’s worth the Spanish magazine website I quoted on the previous thread referred to their father, Kadhim al-Hilli, as ‘The Discreet Millionaire’.
@ straw44berry 1 Oct, 2012 – 3:23 pm
I’m not sure what the source for the skype conversation is but a deal in Iraq may have something to do with proving ownership of assets of which the family had been dispossessed by Saddam’s regime. It seems likely that many ex-pat Iraqis in the UK (and Surrey in particular) may have hoped that family property would have been restored to them.
As an aside: Has there been any general commentary in the UK press about this? In fact I’d imagine it would be a likely part of the before and after story of regime change across the Arab world.
@ straw44berry
so youre just another cynical ‘spook’ like the rest of them then…
big – you are so close its laughable
I am such a klutz when it comes to anything IT, and am afraid I might miss something even more important than what I try to post.
I shall make up an abstract of what I think is relevant, though, and post it in due course.
Hope other posters look at it, and other SatMag articles too in the hope that they will provide their own views about them, and the case we are involved in trying to explain.
@ CD “Has there been any general commentary in the UK press about this?”
does it matter? do you believe anything you read in the UK press?
“French prosecutor Eric Maillaud said a Swiss bank account had been traced plus foreign properties with a total value of up to £4million.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-alps-shooting-saad-al-hilli-1327288
Gotham City 2012AD sounds its a case for NICK BROOMFIELD MAN or anyone with some balls, an EasyJet season ticket and vid cam. youtube is your friend…