The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Marlin & Mochyn I suggest you mind your own business without making innuendos.
I have not passed judgement on you, I can think what I like & you can think what you like. Now stop .
Prez O. & rightist Fox News and leftist CNN are all in agreement there is “at this point” no evidence of a security breach. Mrs. Broadwell has a security clearance higher than Bradley Manning (who is in some small danger of execution – the traitorous fiend). She had every right to posses such docs. We can assume Mrs. B kept the many boxes of classified docs removed from her home by FBI in rows of approved safes and filing cabinets, safe from prying eyes of housekeepers, nannies, caterers, gardeners with cams peeking thru windows etc. Certainly her husband had an equally high security clearance.
The FBI did not drill holes in walls and insert video cameras, so whatever classified material she had did not rise to the level of the hunt at SAH’s place in Claygate. No military bomb squad called either – that is good news.
There is no mention of Natalie Khawam’s former husband Grayson Wolfe, a former Bush Administration official who served in the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and Director of Broader Middle East Initiatives and Iraqi Reconstruction at the Export-Import Bank of the United States.
One would think President Obama’s administration would seize on this to blame the whole mess on Bush & Cheney.
CNN just reported Mrs. B’s security clearance has been revoked. They also had vid of the FBI removing a large, military gray, electronic box from her home. Ah ha! Why would she have that?
Is there anyone from the International Spying Community here at Craig Murray who can tell us what it is? And what that old green circuit board they took out of SAH’s home is too? We could form a phony charity, take up a collection, and offer a vicuña coat as a prize for the correct answer.
NR.
See link I posted earlier, about Ms B having obtained files.
“The FBI is making a new push to determine how a woman who had an affair with retired Gen. David H. Petraeus when he was CIA director obtained classified files, part of an expanding series of investigations in a scandal that also threatens the career of the United States’ top military commander in Afghanistan.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-investigating-how-petraeus-biographer-broadwell-obtained-classified-files/2012/11/13/e61a5cfc-2dd5-11e2-beb2-4b4cf5087636_story.html?wpisrc=nl_most_pp
@NR: Maybe the big gray box was a Commodore 64. I understand they used floppy disks, like the kind used by Jeffrey Delisle when he spied on the Canadian Navy for the Russians. After all, the Petraeus pair used a shared email account, like Delisle and his handler.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2010/02/16/ottawa-russell-williams-edison-home.html
There were similar vans at the al-Hilli home. At the time, some comments on news sites referred to “sweeper vans”.
So, are there any similar white vans in the Petraeus scandal?
At NR
14 Nov, 2012 – 3:59 pm
“Why was I silenced? Why did the government want so badly to keep these – and other clients of Jeans’s escort service – from being publicly identified by me?
Anonymous said… “Suicides”, convenient “accidents” AND ANY “LONE NUT” KILLER* have become a cornerstone of our political system since JFK was ambushed in 1963. Let us recognize that that system has become a super-mafia, cut loose from all public accountability, and the necessity to organize to oppose it.
*WHERE HAVE WE HEARD THAT BEFORE?
At Bluebird
14 Nov, 2012 – 5:42 pm” “Breaking news.
Israel kills Hamas leader Ahmed al Jabari and a 7 year old niece of Yasser Arafat in a terror attack. They better should not have tried the corps of Arafat to be exhumed.
http://rt.com/news/gaza-israel-hamas-attack-687/
The war begins.”
You probably noticed the Israeli’s had the ability to track the vehicle. Their own or the American’s facilities? Drone or satellite or something else?
Bluebird
14 Nov, 2012 – 5:55 pm my problem with the clean team argument is why would they leave physical evidence that does NOT support the official story line. (Bullet casings, blood stains, tyre tracks etc) Just an enormous French cock-up and one hand not knowing what the other was doing?
@ Q : The biz of “There was no security breach” is absurd beyond belief. How would they know that. Do they count the documents and determine none are missing? How do they know how many she had to begin with and that none were copied? Congress must subpoena all heads of World Famous Spy Agencies and ask them under oath if they received any docs from Mrs. B or Mrs. K or her twin sister.
Maybe Mrs. B intended to donate the Commodore 64 to Paul Allen’s Living Computer Museum, for a nice charitable tax deduction.
In the well-known pic of Gen. P and Mrs. B clasping hands in front of assorted flags, can International Experts on All Things Masonic tell us if that is one of those infamous secret grips?
@NR: If it goes down that road of secret handshakes, I’d probably have to mention that infamous M who attended university, and now shares a cellblock, with Colonel Russell Williams. BTW, Williams’ house was around the corner from one of those M-halls.
No security breaches in this story, either:
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/Russell+Williams+Dump+body+help+plan+security+world+leaders/4059890/story.html
Katie
14 Nov, 2012 – 7:11 pm You might like to inform us how many israeli’s have been killed/injured by these 80 rockets and how many palestinians killed by the israeli response?
Surrey Satellite Technology US streamlines satellite system procurement with U.S. General Services Administration contract:
http://www.sst-us.com/news-and-events?story=1978
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:m-qQWqgVKjAJ:www.spaceflorida.gov/docs/annual-reports/mb_satellitesystems-payloads.pdf+&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiPZM-vqTfeLpfCL6X4QVEUtTgvLDGj_yUK0QfuoWWlfGqnjmwGXC1lgm1NOajoaSTSChMEjdb0ROrj1vxXuSZWsP0hbC86-JFb_-j7aAveVIiKpLOqYoPK9X0f8sEutJUL4Lt_&sig=AHIEtbTUHTIwkBLngM1LkAKUa8UqoPenTg
So, Florida is developing a considerable satellite business, and the Air Force is involved.
Found at MacDill AFB:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Operations_Command_Central
Ironically, the special ops unit for Canada (Joint Task Force 2) is in the process of relocating to CFB Trenton, formerly the base commanded by Colonel Russell Williams. The relocation process was already under way when Williams was charged with murder.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/macdill/macdill-air-force-base-program-lets-civilians-like-jill-kelley-on-base/1261501
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacDill_Air_Force_Base
“Cyberwarfare
In early 2011, several news outlets, primaily in the United Kingdom, reported that Ntrepid, a Californian software and hardware company, had been awarded a $2.76 million U.S. government contract to create false online personas to counter the threat of terrorism and could possibly run their operation from MacDill.”
Marlin
14 Nov, 2012 – 8:38 pm
I totally agree with your excellent post.
OFF TOPIC
@ Q 14 Nov, 2012 – 11:33 pm
“@NR: If it goes down that road of secret handshakes, I’d probably have to mention that infamous M who attended university, and now shares a cellblock, with Colonel Russell Williams. BTW, Williams’ house was around the corner from one of those M-halls.”
You probably know this, but I found it on Icke under Kurt Cobain/CIA, new to me. A comment re Williams & Bernardo:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3097
“Those two follow the typical pattern: Twisted family backgrounds; Someone protecting them; Dissociative episodes; Snuff Films; More people involved than public led to believe.”
Fits “The Dude” too. That one, somebody should check DNA against supposed birth parents. An imported Russian baby orphan maybe? Loving family fed family pics to (some of) the original framer-uppers in LA, who used them in attempt to frame him for yet another murder in LA, after he was named suspect in first, most famous one.
“You might like to inform us how many israeli’s have been killed/injured by these 80 rockets ”
Your point being what? That because the 800 rockets fired into southern Israel so far this year haven’t caused many casualties Israel has no right to respond? That few people have been hurt isn’t for want of trying.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/rocket-attacks-force-israelis-to-spend-nights-in-bomb-shelters-8307218.html
Good job the Israeli’s dont live in England. They wouldnt have left those shelters for the last month with the amount of rockets being released here.
More injuries each year are from fireworks in the UK than the Israelis receive from these ‘rockets’.
Oh well that makes it perfectly alright.
I’m sure if somebody was firing high explosive at you you’d be demanding your government struck back.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20336811
“False flag” I suppose.
Kempe
It is no good defending the outlawed and morally corrupt colony at the eastern seaboard of the Mediterranean – on a British board, frequented by honest men and women.
The Palestinians are merely firing rockets into their own land, temporarely inhabited by foreign whites, just like Americans would do if they were hearded together in enclaves along the Mexican border.
No Tim I wouldn’t…….. Mochyn started this silly gang warfare to what aim I do not know , he takes his eye off topic too often.
Kempe 7-12
Well said, why people think we should all accept their views as the only view is bizarre.
Q.
I see from your link the Patraeus affair had been running for two years, why has it taken so long to surface ?
There are many ways to flog a book . 😉
I seriously wonder if he might have wanted to drop Obama in it. Obama who hates the military & the Secret service…….apparently.
Kempe
You can try and click on me name NOW, to see this very incomplete chart of mine over terrorincidents related to the I/P conflict. I list the assasination of Robert Kennedy on 5 June 1968 (First aniversary of the Six Day War) and the Ford Hood Massacre in Texas in 2009, and the Camp Chapman attack in eastern Afghanisatn also in 2009,- all carried out by Palestinians. I could have listed the hostage taking of Israeli atletes at the Olympic Games in Munich 1972 as well, where Palestinians “only” killed 2 Israelis out of 16 hostages. The remaining were killed in the insuring gunfight, when West German police amateurishly attacked the helicopter that had just been given in accordance to an aggreement of free transfer away. There are reports that Israeli security ‘officials’ where directing the perplexed Germans and urging them to attack. I could also mention the capture of cruise ship ‘Aquille Lauro’ in 1986, where a Jew in a wheel chair were thrown overboard. This incident actually marked the ending of a long terrorcampaign — the gravest the world have ever seen, far outdwarfing current hype of — for the most part – virtually non existing terror treaths. Because in 1987 the First Intifada commenced, resulting in the signing of a treaty on the lawn of the White House in 1993, , which established the Palestinian Authority, and so gave hope to the Palestinians that they would get their state. As you know since then, not much have happened, and the Israelis have annexed MORE land in the very place where the Palestinians are supposed to get their state.
And as you also know, because it is virtually impossible to get close to Israelis and kill them, this conflict is likely to move oversees again, as it did in The Fort Hood Massacre and in The Camp Chapman attack .
No, Katie and Kempe holds illegitimate viewpoints, which are unacceptable in the company of civilised men and women. You coulkd get along with thise point of view in the 50’s and 60’s when we didn’t know any better, and where propaganda films like Exodus cunningly shaped the views of a largely ignorant populace.
But British people have always been against Israels actions, so I take it that neither Katie or Kempe are thrue Brits. I know Katie is from Jersey, with its mix of French and German, and where many cooperated with the Germans during The Second World War. The Jersians are kind of “reserve Brits”, not true Brits
Kennth, give up, it’s not worth trying to discuss the subject when there are such clearly entrenched views,not to mention a degree of historic ignorance on this subject.
I am not ‘from’ Jersey , I merely lived there for a time, I am from Shropshire.
You people who judge others are completely out of order,you have no idea of tolerating the other view point.
perhaps off topic, but ….
kempe
“You might like to inform us how many israeli’s have been killed/injured by these 80 rockets ”
Your point being what? That because the 800 rockets fired into southern Israel so far this year haven’t caused many casualties Israel has no right to respond? That few people have been hurt isn’t for want of trying.
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1. We would not have had a WW2 when those 5 “Polish guys” would not have attacked “Sender Gleiwitz”. The German army would not have had to fire back, beginning at 5 o’clock in the morning and then we would not have had a WW2 at all.
2. We would not have had the US army involved in the Vietnam war at all, when North Vietnamese speed boats would not have attacked an American warship in the Gulf of Tonkin, would we? There wouldn’t have been a Vietnam war at all, I suppose.
3. We would not have had WW1 when Gavrilo Princip would not have shot Franz Ferdinand, would we?
4. We would not have had UNO authorised USA invasion in Iraq war #1 when the Iraqis would not have killed and massacred babies in a Kuweiti hospital ….
5. We would not have had an UNO supported Iraq war 2 when Saddam Hussein would not have collected weapons of mass destruction.
6. We would not have had war on terror followed by digital supervision of any human individual on earth (deliberately accepted!) when the airplanes would not have destroyed two totally asbestos poisoned towers.
7. Israel would not strike the Hamas in Gaza when they would not lanuch 800 rockets a day that are exploding in nowhere, would they.
I guess that we could add a lot more examples of propaganda for and believed by the stupid.
WASHINGTON – It started in May with a spiteful email to the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. An anonymous writer warned Gen. John Allen that a friend with whom he was meeting in Washington the following week was trouble and he should stay away from her.
Allen thought the email was a joke because he didn’t know how anybody else would know about his personal plans with his friend, Florida socialite Jill Kelley, a person close to Kelley said.
That email started a chain of events that led to the downfall of CIA Director David Petreaus, put Allen’s career on hold and landed a decorated FBI agent in hot water for talking about an ongoing investigation. The FBI traced that email and others of a similar vein to Paula Broadwell, Petraeus’ biographer, who agents would soon learn had also been his lover.”
http://www.startribune.com/nation/179277551.html?page=1&c=y
I give up. I thought this was about “Not Forgetting the al-Hillis” It seems more of a geo-political rant, slanted one way only. Is it time to “Forget the al-Hillis” a plot hidden as ‘a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma’
When Churchill said it in 1939 re Russia’s intentions he added ‘perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.’
In this case is the key Shia Islam? “Every day is Ashura, every land is Karbala”. Ashura, in the month of Muharram (which starts with the new moon on 15th November 2012) is expected to be 24th November, 2012. The Day of Mourning for the martyrdom of Husayn ibn Ali. Al Hilli – another martyr for his faith?
McDill AFB played a role in 9/11 preparations?
interesting read from todays point of view …. worth reading from what we had learnt today (I had always the impression that SAH had leaked something BIG that was a danger of national security) – I had always the impression that 9/11 was the work of some ultra genius satellite and GPS technician but it was not the terror work of an excellent genius terror pilot, though there was none of such a pilot genius on board…..
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP311D.html
While searching details about MacDill AFB, I found that: Areva has placed several job ads in McDill AFB, searching field operators there:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Job/macdill-afb-field-service-representative-job-listings-SRCH_IL.0,11_IC1166414_KO12,40_IP3.htm
Job Description:
AREVA is seeking a Field Service Representative I. This position will be based at our Mill Ridge Road location in Lynchburg, VA and require travel 50> of time. Under direct supervision, you will be responsible for nuclear reactor fuel handling at customer sites.
and …
{http://areva.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobdetail.ftl?job=664754&src=JB-10700