The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Qinetiq
Chobham Lane
Chertsey
Surrey
KT16 0EE
{http://www.qinetiq.com/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.qinetiq.com/what/newtechnologies/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.qinetiq.com/expertise/aerospace/Pages/military-aerospace.aspx
Any more questions? Doesn’t that tell it all?
BB
No me too, thats why I was hunting them out. Couldnt see any link though. Good job.
5 + 3 = 2 doh
Israelis must simply expect — after what they have done — that somebody wants to avenge it. It’s natural. All occupiers in history saw that as quite natural. A couple of hundred Israelis killed each year that would certainly be expected by any grown up nation, which occupies the territory of others.
What is this about a Jewish life is kind of sacred and somehow mustn’t be terminated? After what Israel has done in its short span of life towards the indigeneous population in the Middle East — who has no responsibility whatsoever for attrocities carried out in Europe — its just natural that people want to give them back in kind. If they cannot wage their just insurgence against the injustices that Israel has wrought, then I’m afraid we will se Palestinians take their fight elsewhere, as they did 1967-86.
Without Israel you wouldn’t have to take your shoes off before boarding a flight, and your wife wouldn’t have to have her bra fumbled with in the Airport. That’s because the two chied motivations behind 9/11 both have connections to Israel.[which of the two are the greatest can be argued over].
1) U.S. support for Israeli policies in the occupied territories. Osama bin-Laden had always had great empathy towrds the plight of the Palestinians, and it was the most frequent theme in his speeches.
2) U.S. troops continued stay on holy Saudi soil (eg.sand) after the end of hostilities in The First gulf War in 1991, although King Fahd had been promised that they would be withdrawn when Saddam had been thrown out, which was that wars objective. This was to be a crucial rallying call for Al Queda. Osam bin Laden was a Saudi, as was 16 out of 19 hijackers on 9/11.
@Bluebird: http://www.qinetiq.com/expertise/Pages/default.aspx
Apparently some sort of technology can see through thick fog and find people hidden in trucks and containers. If such technology had been used on the day of the Al-Hilli incident at Chevaline, the little one might have been found earlier. Unless she wasn’t there.
What’s that about the BBC in your link?
more QintiQ
http://www.qinetiq.com/success/Pages/default.aspx
Our Baronesse Pauline Neville-Jones obviously did a good job there. Was he there, and if so, what may have SAH done there, particularly from 1998-2001 pre 9/11 ?
yes, Q.
“BBC: Britains Secret Engineers” on QinetiQ website.
I believe that this is very hot.
BUT: Why haven’t we found QientiQ any earlier in that investigation? None of us did!
We had to wait for the assassination of John Dion Longworth to finally find QientiQ in the UK and the following links to our Baronesse, Lockheed and the UK Ministry of Defence?
Art imitates life again, and Lady P shares the same birth year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Penelope_Creighton-Ward
O, i forgot under 2) : The architect behind this arrangement was the super zionist and -lobbyist, Martin Indyk, who initiated this policy when he in 1993 moved to the new founded WINEP, a neo-conservative think tank that he help found,.. in 1993. He also got his American citizen ship in 1993, and was later U.S ambassador to Israel.
Plus or minus one hundred years…
Q
that’s the BBC link
http://www.bbcactivevideoforlearning.com/1/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleID=23532
Everything I learned in life came from watching Saturday morning children’s TV shows.
@BB: Oh, look Rolls-Royce jet engines.
http://www.bbcactivevideoforlearning.com/1/TitleDetails.aspx?TitleID=23026
Bluebird,
That Chobham lane Qinetiq address is less than half a mile from that suspicious death falling thru a roof in Longcross Lane
http://hsw.damco.dev.lnukapps.co.uk/hsw/mb-facilities
But I cant remember why we looked at this.
More about the Baronesse (do we understand the apparent D-notice better now?):
She was appointed a BBC governor in January 1998. Her final post was as the Chairman of the Governors’ World Service Consultative Group. Neville-Jones was Chairman of the Audit Committee from 1998: she stood down from that position in September 2004. She left the BBC on 31 December 2004
Minister of State for Security and Counter Terrorism
In office 12 May 2010 – 9 May 2011
In January 2006 Dame Pauline joined one of the Conservative Party’s new ‘policy groups’ on national security
@BB: http://www.touchdown-aviation.com/types/royal-air-force/alpha-jet.php
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3121130
http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24674:britain-relaxes-influence-over-defence-firm-qinetiq&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116
The second link refers to an unmanned jetliner, essentially a drone.
The thing is, if the BBC is under the microscope for one thing, it could accidentally lead to another.
QinetiQ also helps in air and marine accident investigations:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/3121130
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/3947/response/8598/attach/html/3/20081110ResponseU.pdf.html
The Chertsey (Surrey) department of QientiQ was one of their test-facilities.
Let’s see: UAVCCI to control unmanned jetliner/UAV swarm by a pilot in a fighter jet. That was released into the public domain in 2006.
The jets on 9/11 were manned, but FADEC has a lockout. Just sayin’.
http://www.qttraining.com.au/content/cms/Lightning+Protection+of+Aircraft+Systems+and+Structures/397/
Thermal shields could protect sensitive equipment from lightning strikes, or TGFs.
Did I mention the CEZUS alloys are also used in aircraft?
BB: You have found the octopus in this story. This thing has many arms and legs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopSat
It wasn’t an elephant in the room. It was an octopus.
So make a summary of what you have found out or set up a website just for the occasion. The point anywhere — when you have found something out — is to publish it in a clear and concise way, because the objective must always be to get the maximum possible number of people interested. Also to get critique, which is pretty essential for that final refinement of thought — because the risk is overwhelming that some of your conclusions do not hold (after all you are just very limited in numbers — people must actually get to know what you have found out, explained in a clear and concise way.
Summary: QinetiQ is tied to the MOD, Surrey, and Surrey Satellites. SAH worked for Surrey Satellites, as a mechanical engineer. QinetiQ also has ties to the Baroness, who has ties to the National Security Council and top intelligence.
The circumstances of the al-Hilli massacre at Chevaline, and his connections to the above, shed more light on our research.
Note also that SAH worked at Rutherford Appleton.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopSat
He may have been recruited there.
BTW, didn’t we discuss the possibility that SAH could have been tracked by RF microchip, which may be why he chose a spot that was out of range for the Chevaline rendezvous?
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/11/was-indiana-explosion-victim-targeted-microchip-expertise-in-time-to-market-2494598.html
searched on Google.ae (.arabic) for >> الحلي سعدالمنتديات العربيةا<> al Hilli Saad Arabic websites <<
Google Translator not fluent! And the word transl. as 'ornaments' refers to Hilli
Nothing about the websites seen so far. But three items of gossip / interest.
Someone who purports to know him and his family and to have been in touch with him regularly says he wanted to go back to live in Iraq, fed up with the West, USA, Israel. Told all and sundry. ?wanted to help Iraq with satellite work, plus other details about Saad's fathers life and businesses http://alkader.net/jomla/index.php/3548-%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%AC%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%84%D8%A8-%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84-%D8%B3%D8%B9%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%9F-%D8%B9%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1.html
news re 'in the Principality of Liechtenstein near where he was killed in Alps''that he was linked to box credit Sri contains 15 million pounds seed money illegally had been collected bribes from system ''to practices system Saddam Hussein fraudulent that was designed to circumvent the oil for food program '
http://www.alraimedia.com/Article.aspx?id=390293
killing of Al Hilli linked to Obama?? President Barack Obama to the house of Iraqi President Talabani and the assassination attempt by Iraqi Hezbollah during the visit in 2008 by entering the program aerial photograph Otherwise we will find days of Saad al Hilli being behind leaked images visit by Uraphy aircraft Obama and published by Channel trend considering that Saad al Hilli and his company specialty aerial photography and satellite systems, said some foreign media that Washington had asked monitoring Hilli … And the witness who reported the murder
http://alkader.net/jomla/index.php/1796-%D9%82%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%88%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%82%D8%A9-%D9%85%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84-%D8%B3%D8%B9%D8%AF%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%A6%D9%8A%D8%B3-%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A7-%D8%9F%D8%9F-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%83%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9.html
If they say it is, it isn’t. If they say it isn’t, it is. Gary Aked:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/french-alps-shooting-islamic-rants-1326315
I will offer counter-arguments:
Britain only has one major sattelite company, and Quinetic even I have heard of (in a BBC documentary) – a quite exotic new field of science where the Brits are leading. What I mean to say is that the field is quite narrow, and persons are bound to overlap both in British top edge physic science and in the Intelligence community and with regards to politicians in charge. So many actors are naturally intervowen, because the number of people in this field is after all quite limited. And Saad is just an engineer who happens to be employed by one of the parties, but otherwise doesn’t have so much to say.
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