The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
Q, when the director of strategic systems of the pentagon in 2001 (!!!) is going to be the boss of a “small” Indianapolis company that was founded by late Dion Longworth, then I personally don’t think any more about coincidence.
Longworth knew about 9/11 and Saad al Hilli knew about 9/11. Kellem of course, too, perhaps he was one of the masterminds in the pentagon. There is a BIG BIG thing currently going on! They are getting rid of witnesses.
Correction: Jan. 2009 to March 2011 was Dion Longworth’s full employment with Stray Light:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/12/newt-gingrich-on-iraq-a-timeline-of-questionable-judgment/249904/
Correction: Jan. 2009 to March 2011 was Dion Longworth’s full employment with Stray Light:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dion-longworth/b/3b8/49a
Q!
You’re “da man” today! Great find! That story is EXPLOSIVE!!!!!!
This is 9/11 !!!!
Human Factors and Leadership course design and training
Silver Fern (Sussex) Limited
Airlines/Aviation industry
January 2000 – Present (12 years 9 months)
Now is he, he ?
I did add Q’s FANTASTIC investigation results to my davidicke blog. Now there is a wonderful collection and summary of events, of links and of screenshots there:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227898
Worth viewing!
Our finds during the past 2 days here were astonishing, sensational. Perhaps we can also support Trow and find a link to his Hashkovitz? He would likely have an orgasm when we could find that link, too. 🙂
James!
DC-10 pilot, 737 Training Captain, 777 Captain, 777 SFI, CRMI(G), founder member of Flight Operations Human Factors Standards Group.
B757 Pilot
Air 2000
1989 – 1990 (1 year)
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What do you think? Is there a second Brett Martin who has got the absolutely same education and knowledge? Perhaps twins?
Do you remember anything about him that linked him to Australia? I believe that I had read in the early days after the killings that he apparently had some links to Australia, too? I can’t remember. Do You?
Jim Whalley (co Founder of Nova) a 1995 graduate of the Empire Test Pilots’ School, Boscombe Down.
Who runs that ? Why QinetiQ of course.
And QinetiQ also sits very well in with Boeing.
Can we put Brett in Nova ? If so, makes him more than a “Speedbird” four bar !
Bluebird…
Nope !!!
“B.J. Martin” it would appear.
( http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~ajrae/publications/crpit100.pdf )
[email protected]
James,
I see. Still, the coincidences are wonderful. Both in aerospace, both specialist in human relations in aeronautics. Pretty strange. Both Brett Martin.
James,
would you perhaps be able to find something on the
“Flight Operations Human Factors Standards Group”
where OUR Brett Martin was a Co-Founder due to his own biography? I can’t find anything, but you as a pilot probably know where and how to search for. Perhaps a family member?
Bluebird there’s also a Brett Martin currently at US Defence & Space, it seems to be quite a common name.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brett-martin/25/661/4b8.
When I was looking into the HLAW (hybrid laser arc welder) and AREVA, I came across articles about TIMET and HSS (high strength steel). There were also articles about CEZUS and high strength titanium. I wonder if this is what a welder could be doing, in research at the Ugine facility.
That led to national defence, and the role of HSS in fighter jets, etc. Open if you wish:
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ssina.com%2Fnews%2Freleases%2Fpdf_releases%2Fsteel_and_national_defense_0107.pdf&ei=_qGmULnpA-_oiwKPkIHoCg&usg=AFQjCNF6awgEQjEmz0aupZ4gv7ENBsphgA
Does anyone think that Saad al-Hilli was afraid to leave his family at home when he went to France because of the potential for a random gas explosion? These things do happen.
James, Katie,
and I mean, DON’T LAUGH AT ME NOW, because that is CONSPIRACY as it would happen in a cheap James Bond script.
What if “Our” Brett Martin isn’t Brett Martin at all but somebody else who did adopt the life of the REAL Brett Martin in Australia (who is also linked to a defense group?)
What if his official life is falsificated (5 different signatures?, remember?). What if this guy is some John Doe from London who did adopt the life, history and the name of the real one, while the real one IS perhaps from New Zealand, too, but he now works in Australia for Nova Group, doing exatcly what “Our” Brett Martin should actually do, due to his education and history?
I mean, that’s conspiracy, but I would not trust about what they had told the media about that guy when he was MI6 or CIA. Would they have told him a real name or an adopted name and life history? Silver Fern, we know so far, was in a very strange house a very strange company. Brett Martin had different signatures. Perhaps he had a second or a third life, too. I was always wondering from the very beginning, in case he was really a security service member, that they would give to the press his real name and his real life history without any panic.
So what if the real Brett Martin is in Australia and our wrong “Brett Martin” isn’t really Brett Martin but he did perhaps just adopt the other ones life?
Even then when there are perhaps 100 Brett Martin’s, it isn’t really logic that two of them would have the same education and would be specialists in the very same – pretty rare – (James will hopefully confirm that this is seldom amongst pilots) – human resources science. What’s the chance that our Brett Martin lives with the life history of the Australian Brett Martin who is also in military/security employment?
ok, conspiracy, off.
Q
Does anyone think that Saad al-Hilli was afraid to leave his family at home when he went to France because of the potential for a random gas explosion? These things do happen.
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Exactly that’s what I was thinking about for the past few hours, too. What was that dangerous stuff they had found in his garage?
However, it has been confirmed that there was no natural gas. One bottle of gas from the supermarket would not create such a huge explosion. You’d have to have at least the whole garage filled with gas up to under its roof to create such a huge gas explosion with normal gas bottles from the super market. With gas to destroy such a huge area you’d need an enormous amount of gas. Only natural gas could create such a quantity of gas, but they already said NOPE! No natural gas.
@BB: False personas online, courtesy of cyber warfare? That’s real, not conspiracy. See yesterday’s link to 2011 news article.
Funny how they always mention medical applications.
http://www.wthr.com/story/20099184/fund-established-in-memory-of-indianapolis-explosion-victims?clienttype=printable
Medical lasers, anyone?
AWE:
http://actionawe.org/arms-companies-nuclear-weaponry-and-the-military/
And thus, to sensors and Trident missiles, and the Chevaline scandal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Trident_programme
“Does anyone think that Saad al-Hilli was afraid to leave his family at home when he went to France because of the potential for a random gas explosion? ”
I think this is a real possibility, hence no notifying the school. Remember the link I posted last week about the Russian Billionaires house whose neighbours are Saudis [ very similar houses ] being set alight, it doesn’t need to be an explosion.
See here; fire does seem to be such a simple weapon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231403/Fire-destroys-2-8m-mansion-owned-wealthy-Russians-Londons-Billionaires-Row.html
Katie,
Why that week though? Why did he suddenly need to flee with all and sundry?
Kevin Kellems is now reported to be single, but here’s a Mrs. Kellems, wife of a Kevin Kellems at the Pentagon:
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/shes-on-top/
@ sys 16 Nov, 2012 – 5:59 pm
“On the alleged scammer. He tried to access al Hilli’s account Sept 6”
Did the media even release the names of the victims by the next day? A scammer would certainly want to use banking info fast after a death, before accounts are closed. So if scammer “just happens” to have possession of SAH’s info, he goes, “Oh, thank my lucky stars. I already have his numbers, and here he goes getting himself most spectacularly killed, so I don’t need to wait forty years.”
@ bluebird16 Nov, 2012 – 7:40 pm
“I believe that I had read in the early days after the killings that he apparently had some links to Australia, too?”
I think that had something to do with ex-RAF mercenaries out of Australia who were doing something for SNC-Lavalin in Africa.
@ Katie 15 Nov, 2012 – 10:06 pm
“… in addition to poultry farms and laboratories for hatching chicken eggs…”
The comment above was about SAH’s pops in Iraq. If “laboratories” is not an accurate translation, and it really means a hatchery for hatching little chicks, that fits the poultry biz. If it is an actual “laboratory” that could be part of the pharmaceutical biz, much more money, where they use eggs to make vaccines.
http://www.tfas.org/page.aspx?pid=746
Kevin Kellems in Iraq. Kevin Kellems on Iraq:
http://www.thelantern.com/2.1345/iraq-invasion-justified-at-public-relations-conference-1.92368
He’s even called the “keeper of the comb” in a book, but the more important issue there is security passes.
Gypsum is sometimes added to chicken feed. There have been studies about it.
Straw, we can only guess, something made him panic that’s for sure, a tip off that an enemy was arriving from Iraq the next day ?
There had to be a known time before he needed to leave though because he loaded all the bikes & made bookings. I’m not sure if he collected mother in law en route or if he took her back to Claygate first ?
Don’t stand next to Kevin Kellems rocket attacks seem to follow him.
Gypsum has some remarkable properties that are very useful in modern agriculture as a:
soil amendment
soil conditioner
fertiliser
The main benefits are as follows:
Gypsum has the ability to amend both low & high pH
Leaches away excess sodium
Restores healthy soils following prolonged use of acid chemical fertilisers
Improves soil structure, workability and builds deeper top soil
Breaks up soil compaction caused by heavy equipment & cattle
Breaks up heavy clay soils
Minimises soil capping following irrigation & rain
Improves both drainage & moisture retention
Reduces energy requirement for working soil
Reduces soil erosion
Increases soil aeration and microbial activity
Encourages deeper roots
Supplies calcium and sulphur
Unlocks nutrients such as nitrogen, phosphate & potash etc
Balances pH in subsoil zone
http://www.npk.ltd.uk/gypsum.htm
Groupies: http://chicksontheright.com/categories/weeps-and-glees/item/17509-mock-and-daisys-breakfast-face-kissing-adventure
I gather they’ve found Calcium Sulfate [ Gypsum] on Mars.
Apart from the agricultural use it is also :
“Calcium sulfate is a common component of fouling deposits in industrial heat exchangers, because its solubility decreases with increasing temperature”