The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
… bankers, phone-hacking, Hillsborough conspiracy.
I wouldn’t underestimate the public, Anders7777. Many people, esp. after for example, Diana/Iraq War/David Kelly, etc., and esp. post-web, suspect all kinds of shenanigans in many areas – not everyone says so, openly.
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True, but I was more thinking along the lines of was MI6 trying to protect these players from a Mossad hit, for example? And SAH is extremely valuable, and working away for someone?
The other angle is the ramping up of terror, a la Britvic, Aurora etc etc etc – a generic terror psyop?
“I wouldn’t underestimate the public”
The public have already forgotten about the Al-hillis.
Btw, unfortunately, I’ve had no response whatsoever from my posts in three progressive Muslim groups’ pages on Facebook. One person clicked that they ‘liked’ my post; otherwise, zilch. Ah well, it was worth a try.
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You’d be surprised! I’ve been beavering away for nearly two decades and I KNOW my stuff is having an effect, in many ways, the old butterfly effect, I’ll never know. But I’ve gotten a lot of feedback over the years so…
L’Oréal’s = “Because I’m worth it”.
Right @nudi?
About the synchroton at Rutherford Appleton, where Saad al-Hilli once worked as a student:
http://www.e6cvd.com/cvd/page.jsp?pageid=387
This particular project did not come into being until 2003, after SAH was reportedly working there as a student.
It is interesting to note the numbers of scientists connected to synchrotron research who have met untimely ends recent years. I can think of four in the past six years: two in 2006, one in 2009 and one in 2010. Three of the deaths involve mysterious and atypical disappearances. One was a heart attack. Of the three disappearances, two were found dead in rivers. One person is still missing. Three used the synchrotron for research, and one was connected through family.
“I wouldn’t underestimate the public”
The public have already forgotten about the Al-hillis.
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Again, I have said this too. Now, a terror/massacre message was sent.
Real = covered up by DA notice. My option 1.
False = psyop = also covered by the DA notice. My option 2.
If false = sloppy sloppy sloppy, not fooling the intended audience…
If real = sloppy sloppy sloppy coverup…
So…???
Wasn’t there a passer by too (like BM) conveniently up the remote mountain where Robin Cook “fell” with a much needed mobile phone too? MI5 template reused.
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Yes.
Something like that, I posted about this on another CM thread and CE went ballistic. They always use the same MOs. Possibly even the same murderers involved. I firmly believe Cook was murdered, he had all the goods on Bliar and his controllers.
No he was out walking with his wife Gaynor when he collapsed and she called for help. I suppose by conspiracy logic that would make her an MI5/Illuminati/Mossad/CIA/ spook. Cook died of hypertensive heart failure, ie untreated high blood pressure. I’ve no idea how you would induce that unless the doctors, paramedics, nurses, pathologist and coroner involved were all MI5 spooks too.
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If k**nty sticks his oar in, you know you’re on a winner! 🙂
at last anders is back! (in)sanity can now prevail KEEPING IT SIMPLE STUPID
K.I.S.S.
@ anders dopey informed us of a james scharff who *may* have been involved with SAH’s ltd co.s an accountant and now counter-terrorism conference attendee apparently. when I highlighted what dopey found katie/kathy & james went oops upside the head yesterday or day before, funny that…. innit? could it be the same james? that’d be spooky…. go back and have a look. id like your opinion
“Gaynor Cook, his wife, has never spoken about the matter to this day despite repeated requests from the media.”
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Neither has Mrs. Kelly, frightened out of her wits.
@Kempe
The CIA are experts at inducing heart attacks.
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So are MI5/6.
Why bring MEK or Hezbollah into all of this, MEK are tied up in Iran bumping of scientists or botched false flags, note after the bungled ones in India and Thailand they’ve given that up.
And Hezbollah are tied up with the civil war in Syria.
Do either have a record of worldwide assasanation?
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No.
But MOST SAD do.
Anders,
You using that vanishing ink again?
at last anders is back! (in)sanity can now prevail KEEPING IT SIMPLE STUPID
K.I.S.S.
@ anders dopey informed us of a james scharff who *may* have been involved with SAH’s ltd co.s an accountant and now counter-terrorism conference attendee apparently. when I highlighted what dopey found katie/kathy & james went oops upside the head yesterday or day before, funny that…. innit? could it be the same james? that’d be spooky…. go back and have a look. id like your opinion
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Will do! On iPhone daaahn le pub again so no search function.
Those twats act like weather cocks!!! 🙂
Anders,
You using that vanishing ink again?
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You can make it with onion juice!
You kill a wolf by getting it in a neck hold, left forearm under carotid/throat, right hand pulling down hard on the muzzle, legs in a scissors grip around its flanks. From the rear, James! 🙂
Simples! 🙂
@ all re-arrange well known phrase : brewery up organise piss in not could
you people posting here 24/7 obviously dont have money problems and have to go out to work so why dont you all get together and buy a hi-def video camera OR use your iphone5 and go knock on his brother’s door and ask him to participate in your youtube documentary expose and then go down to Chevaline and do the same with all the other characters instead of repeating this loop of dis-information ? or are you happy to leave it up to Jacques Peretti of mainstreammedia to do it when he gets round to it ?
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the future is blair…. euan blair
Cook was murdered. Nurses, docs, all. MI6.
Path Lab. MI6. The lot.
He was going to spill the beanz on Blair and the controllers.
Pure psyop.
CIA trianed MI6 in “heart failure” biz.
Diana. Psyop.
Was to be “heart failure TM”.
But used “beam light”.
Driver. Spook.
Setup in RITZ TM as “WATCHER”.
BM ~ SPOOK.
Clean up TM.
SAH and SM whacked by MOSAAD.
PD arrived. Clean up fail. Epic fail.
All .MIL
the future is blair…. euan blair
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http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/tony-blair-and-family-various-spooks.html?m=1
Look at his photo.
An obvious MK victim.
He looks like an old man.
Those twats act like weather cocks!!! 😀
Amen to that!! There was a helluva commotion going on this morning when I was posting about Aldermaston, and good old Dave even told me to forget it, twice!
When I said “Stick to to the Aldermaston thing… Who could SAH have known there?” he wrote back “Nobody, that’s why he was dealing with Sylvain Mollier, who worked for Crezus.” Hilarious. Obviously Dave knows everyone that SAH knows, and everyone who works at Aldermaston, and has eliminated every possibility! Either that or he is a bullshitter of the highest order.
He also wrote “Why worry about Aldermaston when we know his man was Sylvain Mollier?”, and “The National Ignition Facility… etc… Forget about all this, it’s irrelevant.”
So I was pretty sure I was on to something!
Those twats act like weather cocks!!!
Amen to that!! There was a helluva commotion going on this morning when I was posting about Aldermaston, and good old Dave even told me to forget it, twice!
When I said “Stick to to the Aldermaston thing… Who could SAH have known there?” he wrote back “Nobody, that’s why he was dealing with Sylvain Mollier, who worked for Crezus.” Hilarious. Obviously Dave knows everyone that SAH knows, and everyone who works at Aldermaston, and has eliminated every possibility! Either that or he is a bullshitter of the highest order.
He also wrote “Why worry about Aldermaston when we know his man was Sylvain Mollier?”, and “The National Ignition Facility… etc… Forget about all this, it’s irrelevant.”
So I was pretty sure I was on to something!
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Thanks, I’m still catching up, been on the Jimmy Sa-VILE case at Icke.
Aangirfan is playing a blinder at the moment, and so is the TAP blog.
I thought it wasnt Aldermaston any more. Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Weapons_Establishment
Now part owned by Jacobs Eng Group a US company.
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Is Jacobs a Jewish name?
Who now owns the nuke sub Faslane facility?
Any ideas?
jim’ll frig it for you and YOU & YOU and…..:)
“If their job were flawless”
It was, everyone’s dead, the police have been sorted, and the media silenced, and the public has already forgotten.
Note the stunning silence.
Job well done.
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Not on this thread though, and Icke, and elsewhere I’m the non dead tree press.
No idea if Aldermaston figures or not, but I did read that the space/nuclear industries are very incestuous one. Everyone knows everyone else. It wouldn;t surprise me if Saad did know people working there, or even been there himself.
I did a search on “ATK Aldermaston” out of interest. I found nothing significant but quite a few Linkedin profiles appeared in the search results for engineers who worked for one of them and had also previously worked for the other one too.
I’d be surprised if you could get onto the Aldermaston sites without security clearance though. About ten years ago an IT director offered to sponsor me for security clearance to go onto the Sellafield site. It’s a huge site and he couldn;t be bothered to have to come get me to escort me to his company on site so security clearance made things easier all round.
I never actually bothered in the end, but recall the conversation well. He said anyone with brown skin with a turban could forget it, they wouldn’t get it. This was in the year after 9/11 so maybe they were touchier then and he was right…or he could have been full of BS instead.
There was no secret roofrack or car load of bombs, at most Frenchman may have had a memory stick, mission was to stop the exchange of information or the grooming of a new inside man, the whole thing was over in seconds.
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Bit of overkill then?
I’m glad everyone is using my memory stick meme from thread I.
Carry on. 🙂
“Amen to that!! There was a helluva commotion going on this morning when I was posting about Aldermaston, and good old Dave even told me to forget it, twice!”
Because Al-hilli had his ilfated meeting with Sylvain Mollier, who worked for Crezus, nothing to do with Aldermaston.
There’s no point trying to look for further conspiracy theories when we know who he was there to meet, and which organisation he was from.
The unanswered questions remain who killed them all, why and why it’s all been covered up.
“Who now owns the nuke sub Faslane facility?”
“Faslane is also a Defence Equipment and Support site, operated in dual site organisation with Great Harbour, Greenock, by Babcock Marine,[1] and managed by Serco Denholm”
The ubiquitous Serco, who seem to have taken over the UK public sector.
“Bit of overkill then?”
How else do they operate?
They bombed an entire apartment block just to kill one man once.
“Faslane is also a Defence Equipment and Support site, operated in dual site organisation with Great Harbour, Greenock, by Babcock Marine,[1] and managed by Serco Denholm”
I wonder if that’s where some of the nuclear stuff they moved used to go to from Alderbaston then. There’d be huge convoys with riot squad/unmarked cars etc heading north up the M4/M6 on occasion, usually at night. I never saw one, but I thin there’s clips on you tube/ posts on forums about sightings.
“There’d be huge convoys with riot squad/unmarked cars etc heading north up the M4/M6 on occasion, usually at night. I never saw one, but I thin there’s clips on you tube/ posts on forums about sightings.”
They travel during the day, they used to be Fodens but now they use Mercs:
http://www.nukewatch.org.uk/spot.php