Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22278


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • anders7777

    And they’re both still there, Anders, so no, the posts were not “deleted again”.

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    How would you know, getting your beauty sleep?

    Several were deleted, end of.

  • James

    Turnover 2010 3.700.661.00
    Turnover 2011 18.308.607.00

    That’s not bad growth, in one year.

    I guess they found something good to sell !
    …and took on more contractors !

  • anders7777

    I see Anders is mis-quoting me again. And that’s one thing I CAN’T STAND.

    I said: “That does not mean the CIA are cooperating with Mossad. And as I said, I doubt if Mossad discuss their plans with the CIA.” (This in the middle of a discussion about MEK and bumping off scientists …)

    and Anders posts,

    “You said Mossad and CIA never worked together”

    I’m going for my dinner.

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    Live mice, is it? 🙂

  • dopey

    Thanks Strawberry and CD re Zaid’s address.

    They’re a complex family, to put it mildly.

  • straw44berry

    Today’s press release

    http://www.astrium.eads.net/en/news2/atv-3-%E2%80%98edoardo-amaldi-mission-successfully-completed-.html

    Mission 3 complete

    Mission summary.

    Contents:-
    was carrying almost 6.6 tons of fuel, gases, spare parts, experiments, food, clothing and everyday necessities for the International Space Station (ISS) crew

    Launch on 23/3/12
    Into orbit
    Dock with ISS
    Tug ISS into correct orbit
    De-orbited and burned up like a shooting star over uninhabited area of southern Pacific Ocean.

    2 more missions planned

  • Katie

    “The surest way to overthrow an existing social order is to debauch the currency.” – Lenin

    Sounds familiar for all of us & now Iran.

  • Felix

    “helped to design the kitchen of the European Airbus aircraft”

    Who said that?

    The accountant, Julian Stedman
    Limited hangout.
    Probably from a last-minute VAT invoice “for services, designing Airbus kitchen, pay Saad Al Hilli the sum of…”

    Not.

  • Felix

    @Dopey
    No, you didn’t say that,of course. Didn’t mean that at all. Just my way of showing how ridiculous the official narrative is.o

    I don’t believe a word now, after all this discussion, of anything put out by the security services and their stenographers in the media relating to the Al-Hilli conundrum. We’re speculating from a point to infinity, with a few internet clues from the past.

  • James

    There is nothing wrong with those kitchens on an Airbus !
    The engines…well that’s another thing.
    Maybe he was “hit” by Rolls Royce !

    And it’s “galley” !

  • James

    Wait a minute…
    It was the accountant that did say “Airbus kitchens”.
    He was doing his bloody books ! SSTL had been paying him since Nov 2010.

  • dave broker

    “Wait a minute…
    It was the accountant that did say “Airbus kitchens”.
    He was doing his bloody books ! SSTL had been paying him since Nov 2010.”

    That would be AMS 1087 work?

    Where does scooterman fit in with all this?

  • dave broker

    “There are “people” on here, not convinced he’s dead yet !”

    A funeral must have happened?

    Aren’t Muslims supposed to buried in a matter of hours?

  • James

    AMS1087. Standard Off The Shelf Company. He joined it Sept 2007.
    No idea “what the plan was” with that.

    But you should be thinking why Gary Aked said companies (“other”) after he had mentioned Shtech.

    Company, yes. Companies, erm !

  • dave broker

    “Company, yes. Companies, erm !”

    If you earn offshore, you’d want offshore companies to process the loot through.

  • James

    “Aren’t Muslims supposed to buried in a matter of hours?

    Depends how fast your helicpter can fly beyond it’s range for !

  • straw44berry

    SSTL launches Astrium’s small satellites including Swarm.

    http://www.astrium.eads.net/en/programme/swarm.html

    The Vector Field Magnetometer is able to detect ferrous metals the size of cars 10s of metres below the ground.
    Seems a doddle to find submarines as Anders (3.10 pm 3/10)said earlier Israels Samson pronography but it seems as though Israel have lost their blackmailing position.

    Australia, USA & Canada treat magnetometers as miltary technology.

  • CD

    If SAH did actually go to France (by car?) from Portsmouth on Dec 16 – why did he go, where did he go and how long did he stay?

    If some of his work – perhaps not full time – was for DCII/SHTL it may only have been to provide CAD solutions for mechanical design elements. As others have said, he may never have had sight of the entire construction or its end uses and applications.

  • James

    Bye Fanders.
    Only here for a bit. You can have it back later.
    Get your “right click…and copy” finger ready.

    AND… OH F**K !
    Turkey has been “accidentally” hit by a Syrian motar (and has killed).
    And Turkey has just responded “in kind”.

    We can see where this is going ! Get the “UN-ARMY” involved !
    …then “foreign boots” on the ground.

    Hope Iran’s currency falls soon…and they don’t “elect” the son of “the superdooper leader” !

  • James

    CD

    “If SAH did actually go to France (by car?)…..”

    Makes sense of the “I’m just off to the BMW Car Club meeting love, back in a couple of days”.

  • anders7777

    Nice one felix

    Stick to your guns

    I’m on the psyop side but inclining towards its a very failed psyop

    Especially on the intel community, which is what matters, not us plebby useless eaters…

  • anders7777

    I wonder does Anders know that some international commentators think that Israel is not, in fact, at all worried about Iran and nuclear weapons. What they want is the water of South Lebanon. They tried to take that before and failed. Now they reckon that they can only get their hands on it by knocking out Syria, and then Iran.

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    Rubbish. They’re interested in heavy water. Easy enough to import Evian anyways.

  • James

    CD

    “As others have said, he may never have had sight of the entire construction or its end uses and applications”.

    Maybe he was just a “smuggler”, nothing to do with his “job”.
    Who knows.
    Mossad Bob says “Mossad just kills people”…and then some intel bloke told him they do BUT….
    …from my research where Mossad was involved (The Iraqi Reactor Build),
    Mossad “warned” and “threatened” French and Italian nuke boffins working on that project.

    …this killing was “brutal”. Maybe it was “criminal” based ?
    Who knows what yet.

  • Felix

    Search in vain for funerals. Not forgetting the crypic “commemoration service” leaked out in the limited hangout BBC R4 production.
    Even the Mollier funeral wasn’t even credible – 5 people huddled next to a funeral hearse. One photographer who just happened to be passing. Easiest thing to stage.

    I will not be forced to be uncritical. I am not here to rubber stamp the security services and MSM accounts.

    @Anders
    Hit / Extraction.
    Yes, but even if people have been hit/extracted, we don’t know the numbers. Some? all? none?….
    I guess the services would have interviewed everybody on the campsite (true independent witnesses), heard what they had seen and scripted the narrative accordingly.

    The MSM will have to do better.

  • anders7777

    Does anyone have ANY idea WTF is being blabbers about in “””””””” above?

  • James

    “Instead, he blamed the rial’s slump on his enemies abroad and opponents at home, saying his government was the victim of a “psychological war”. Ahmadinejad acknowledged western sanctions have contributed to the crisis”

    Vs

    “I’m on the psyop side but inclining towards its a very failed psyop”

    Spot the difference.
    One is a crazy madman….the other is “president” Ahmadinejad !

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