The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
a doddle to find submarines as Anders (3.10 pm 3/10)said earlier Israels Samson pronography but it seems as though Israel have lost their blackmailing position.
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Yes and no straw. My sources tell me that certain states have already pre planted nukes all over the shop. No names no pack drill. So all these sat systems etc become redundant when SAYANIM and Spetznaz etc can do the biz by lighting a match, personally. See Telefon.
The MSM will have to do better.
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Agreed but hamstrung by the DA. Quite elegant really.
@Straw44berry:
Connection to CERN here: http://www.torrscientific.co.uk/index.php/technical-information
Yes, Com Dev is based in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada.
You may know Cambridge, Ontario as the home of Saadi Ghadaffi’s supposed bodyguard and international man of mystery, Gary Peters. But that is a whole other story.
You may know Cambridge, Ontario as the home of Saadi Ghadaffi’s supposed bodyguard and international man of mystery, Gary Peters. But that is a whole other story.
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Q
Can you recommend a good site that explains the chalk river affair?
Many thanks if you can.
“My sources tell me that…..”
Sources ? Where ? Down the pub ?
Don’t make me laugh.
Expert disinfo pro that sits on “boards”….or loon ?
It has to be one or the other.
Thanks Q,
A topic I know very little about apart from a few documentaries but fun to investigate.
@ James
There is nothing wrong with those kitchens on an Airbus !
The engines…well that’s another thing.
Maybe he was “hit” by Rolls Royce !
And it’s “galley” !
………………….
Oh you little plane spotter
“Alright, but if one rules out intelligence services how can WBM be explained? If he is, as reported, a bystander happening on the scene, then how did he prove that so quickly and unequivically to the French police who seem to have decided he was not a suspect inside 24hrs, and despite the car remaining unopened until approx 11pm?”
Because he was there to keep and eye on Al-hilli, and didn’t expect the hit team to wipe everyone out?
Anyone recall one of the French cops at the start of all this say he believed Saad had THREE companies? I just read an early article which reminded me.
Could be a mistake on his part, or maybe it wasn’t.
Dopey…
Ya can’t spot ’em, when your sat in ’em !
But I thank “above” that I didn’t have to drive the big ones !
Double the size…double the trouble.
AND on a serious note, I did note that BM was a “check” on the Boeing Dreamliner. I understood he had retired from B.A ?
“Seems a doddle to find submarines as Anders (3.10 pm 3/10)said earlier Israels Samson pronography but it seems as though Israel have lost their blackmailing position.”
Anders didn’t mention submarines.
He was on about “Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence …”
Thanks for the Swarm info, anyway.
Jo Yeates funeral took place about six weeks after her body was found…and was widely reported as we know.
So, if that length of time is about normal for UK murders then the delay Al Hilli isn’t (yet) suss. I have a feeling however the funeral won’t even be mentioned. If they aren’t reporting anything else now they aint going to report the funerals.
And another thing – are the bodies even back in the UK? Had this been a “Jo Yeates” we’d have had a six page spread in the mainstreams about the body being flown back home.
Because he was there to keep and eye on Al-hilli, and didn’t expect the hit team to wipe everyone out?
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Not very INTELLIGENT is he then?
Is anyone else going to join the Wikispooks thingy then, or what?
Sorry Nuid yes your submarine comment from earlier, I got confused from quotes of quotes.
Dopey…
Ya can’t spot ‘em, when your sat in ‘em !
But I thank “above” that I didn’t have to drive the big ones !
Double the size…double the trouble.
AND on a serious note, I did note that BM was a “check” on the Boeing Dreamliner. I understood he had retired from B.A ?
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Anyone remember AIRFIX ™?
Dopey…
THREE Co’s. Yep, this is what I believe.
But only from the accs and Gary Aked…. I did not recall the “french cop” saying it !!!!
That’s big, if he did say it (as a mistake). Do you recall where you saw it/watched it ?
Airfix
Where I first fell in love with lift coefficient
Jo Yeates funeral took place about six weeks after her body was found…and was widely reported as we know.
So, if that length of time is about normal for UK murders then the delay Al Hilli isn’t (yet) suss. I have a feeling however the funeral won’t even be mentioned. If they aren’t reporting anything else now they aint going to report the funerals.
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They didn’t even do AUTOPSIES on the 55 murdered by the UK govt / state apparatus on 7/7 2005.
So this one has no chance.
Btw I ust watched ripple effect 2 last night after James passed out.
If you haven’t seen it, put aside two hours to watch it all.
It has a direct bearing on this case.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwyzpzEgUWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
@ James
Here it is. Worth reading the full piece again as there’s a few things I missed ie a neighbour says Zaid moved out of the Claygate house 18 months ago…and the father came back for a while and was living in the bedroom Zaid had moved out of (…amazing how much those bloody neighbours knew..even which bedroom they slept in!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2198777/French-Alps-shooting-Police-question-Saad-Al-Hillis-brother-Zaid-inheritance-row.html
Re that Daily Mail article..
The 7th picture – the one showing the crowd walking up towards the end of the road/no entry sign – is that a white hut I can see on the left hand side just beyond the top of the carpark and near the barrier?
Three Co’s.
The DMCii growth.
and the alleged “trip in December to France”
Why did you miss these Flanders ?
You’re the “expert” here (you say).
I “feel” that there is a HUGE cover up here (and here !).
You “cut n paste” alot…and that “slides” the thread.
You pointed that out …but you do that (alot).
I think somewhere, at sometime, someone will supply a some info…and what I do know, is find you “cut n paste” and read the posts above.
I think you are “too good” at being on boards.
@Anders:
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=lachlan+cranswick+conspiracy&oq=lachlan+cranswick+conspiracy&gs_l=hp.3..0.6958.9614.3.10522.2.2.0.0.0.0.128.205.1j1.2.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.1.C3PwtvzwGdE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=9c11953bcbc45462&biw=1600&bih=767
James
Look at that pic – the white shed. How have we missed that before?
“As of 2012, the disastrous UraMin mining deal and allegations of spying are holding Areva back as it struggles to recover from last year’s Japanese Fukushima nuclear disaster, and they risk embarrassing France’s president as he bids for re-election”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Areva
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/25/areva-uramin-idUSL5E8CP2GT20120125
So if it turned out employees of Cezus (owned by Areva) had been flogging Iran zirconium, it could cause embarrassing for France?
S’ok straw44berry
I see Anders took credit anyway. One has to watch that little **** like a hawk.
“10s of metres below the ground” is one thing, I wonder how deep modern subs go. And whether the technology works through water …
I assume it does. V interesting.
Dopey…
Cheers for that.
I think your comments are right. There is alot there which is missed.
Thanks.
@Dopey
No, it’s the information sign – here the road is barred to all except walkers and cyclists.
Thanks for the neighbour with the sleeping arrangemen inside knowledge, Philip Murphy Hadn’t noted him before. I had convinced myself it would have been Jack before reading the link!
Dopey,
That ‘shed’ is a notice board