The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
“…largely developed by Germany, Britain and Germany”.
Other people do type fast I guess !!!!
I should have added…
… since the majority of posts by TimV are merely “cut n’ paste” jobs rather than “free thought”…his (erm !) “posts” have been already “proof read” by the original internet site/British newspaper !
That includes the ones where he reads the link posted by someone else, cuts and then pastes…and claims “his own” !
I see how you work Tim !
(As Abraham Lincoln once wrote, “you can’t believe everything you read on the internet”)
Interesting new evidence. It looks as if the UK government panics.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/23/uk-government-independent-military-base
The Independent this morning published an article – which it repeatedly claims comes from “documents obtained from the NSA by Edward Snowden” – disclosing that “Britain runs a secret internet-monitoring station in the Middle East to intercept and process vast quantities of emails, telephone calls and web traffic on behalf of Western intelligence agencies.
That leads to the obvious question: who is the source for this disclosure? Snowden this morning said he wants it to be clear that he was not the source for the Independent
“It appears that the UK government is now seeking to create an appearance that the Guardian and Washington Post’s disclosures are harmful, and they are doing so by intentionally leaking harmful information to The Independent and attributing it to others. The UK government should explain the reasoning behind this decision to disclose information that, were it released by a private citizen, they would argue is a criminal act.”
Pretty interesting stuff possibly in regards to al Hilli.
Quotes
Britain runs a secret internet-monitoring station in the Middle East to intercept and process vast quantities of emails, telephone calls and web traffic on behalf of Western intelligence agencies, The Independent has learnt.
The station to tap into and extract data from the underwater fibre-optic cables passing through the region.The information is then processed for intelligence and passed to GCHQ in Cheltenham and shared with the National Security Agency (NSA) in the United States. The Government claims the station is a key element in the West’s “war on terror” and provides a vital “early warning” system for potential attacks around the world.
The Middle East installation is regarded as particularly valuable by the British and Americans because it can access submarine cables passing through the region. All of the messages and data passed back and forth on the cables is copied into giant computer storage “buffers” and then sifted for data of special interest.
The Government also demanded that the paper not publish details of how UK telecoms firms, including BT and Vodafone, were secretly collaborating with GCHQ to intercept the vast majority of all internet traffic entering the country. The paper had details of the highly controversial and secret programme for over a month.
One of the areas of concern in Whitehall is that details of the Middle East spying base which could identify its location could enter the public domain.
The data-gathering operation is part of a £1bn internet project still being assembled by GCHQ. It is part of the surveillance and monitoring system, code-named “Tempora”, whose wider aim is the global interception of digital communications, such as emails and text messages.
Across three sites, communications – including telephone calls – are tracked both by satellite dishes and by tapping into underwater fibre-optic cables.
The Middle East station was set up under a warrant signed by the then Foreign Secretary David Miliband, authorising GCHQ to monitor and store for analysis data passing through the network of fibre-optic cables that link up the internet around the world
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-uks-secret-mideast-internet-surveillance-base-is-revealed-in-edward-snowden-leaks-8781082.html
That is the way (read below) how the government and particularly the NSA destroys their enemies.
Pretty interesting article and propaganda. When you begon reading you first believe that this guy is an ass*ole and a very bad criminal. Only if you carefully read the full article below you will understand the truth and the severe propaganda and the lies in the headlines of that article. Pretty scary. Orwell’s “newspeak”. Scary!
The Independent seems to be a MI5 agency. We should debunk everything of what the independent did tell us about the chevaline event. They are liars and MI5 shills when we understan both articles here and what the guardian/greenwald said. QED!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-28yearold-architects-son-from-dublin-accused-of-being-worlds-biggest-dealer-in-child-abuse-images-8782756.html
Bb
Oh James! You are soooooooo tiring. My “murder” point is quite simple. It was just made to correct your (or your mate’s) comment “is only “illegal”, if someone makes a law” (or an “act”) to say it is.” Namely that arguably the most serious crime is NOT the breach of an “Act” or statute. In Britain anyway. OK it was a fairly pedantry point to make though for someone who prizes accuracy and highly critical of me, I couldn’t resist.
Now you say:
“That includes the ones where he reads the link posted by someone else, cuts and then pastes…and claims “his own” !” Oh really. As far as I know I have never done so although I have noticed you have this plagiarism slur around before.
Rather than just shovelling s h one t perhaps you would be good enough to give chapter and verse. I readily admit I cut and paste articles from other sources if they are pertinent – always in quotes and attributed. I NEVER and never have used other people’s writing as my own. If you were a gentleman you would withdraw this claim. I think that’s a bit unlikely don’t you?
@BB
re: The Independent
In case you didn’t know: The Independent has been owned by Alexander Lebedev (ex KGB & FIS) since 2010. So I imagine they not duped into publishing this story and it was, as you suggest, deliberate propaganda.
“Oh James! You are soooooooo tiring. My “murder” point is quite simple. It was just made to correct your (or your mate’s) comment “is only “illegal”…….”
But Tim, I didn’t mention “murder” ! Like I said !
The point was actually made with regard America (or any other Govt.com) making “acts”.
Before you bore the pants off me “govt.com” is generally meant to be “governments”.
And “acts” are Acts… like I said, you tell me !
You do know about “Acts” ????
“If you were a gentleman you would withdraw this claim.”
TIM !
I have read your posts. I can go back on this blog. You do that.
If you do sport (?) YOU are what we call a “goal hanger”.
You know you do it…and that’s the worse thing ! You deny it !
And Tim…
When did I actually mention “murder” in the post you have taken issue with !!!!
Again I ask that !
By the way (as we ex Glaswegians say)…
…where did Marlin go after I said I thought you to were the same and tried to “ping” you ?
MORNING !
I guess some people like to sleep in ?
Maybe “old age” ?
Marlin ? Tim ? One and the same ?
Bleb
Interesting spin with the MI5 owned The Independent
It is leading to Litvinenko, too.
Lebedev is clearly an MI6 asset as your article points out he was a KGB agent in London during the 80’s and has bought up parts of the British press. “MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russian security service agents searched a Moscow bank controlled by billionaire tycoon Alexander Lebedev, owner of Britain’s Independent and Evening Standard newspapers, on Friday, his aide said.” “Lebedev, who served in Russian foreign intelligence under diplomatic cover in London, made billions trading stocks and bonds after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union.” Not to mention his close affiliation to British agent Gorbachev who under his watch Russian shock therapists were trained in London and Soros/British institutions in Europe. LaRouche said that he was rumoured to have gotten investment from one of the Rothschilds. Besides Novaya Gazeta, Lebedev owns two British dailies, The Independent and the Evening Standard. He and his son run the Raisa Gorbachov Foundation, named after the wife of Mikhail Gorbachov who died of leukemia in 1999. According to Russian sources, Lebedev’s British ties date from his work in London as a young KGB officer in the 1980s, his friendship with members of the Rothschild family having subsequently facilitated the amassment of seed money for his acquisition of the NRB in 1995.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/84302/message/1329516928/last-1330155520/Lebedev+is+clearly+an+MI6+asset
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332786/Alexander-Lebedev-calls-bloggers-track-assault-victim-refused-Moscow-trial.html
His time as a spy in London appears to have been a happy one; for his birthday, Novaya Gazeta mocked up a special edition, featuring a spoof letter from Lebedev’s MI6 “contact”, who suggested putting a plaque on the Kensington, west London, house where Lebedev lived with other Soviet spies, signing off: “God save the Queen!”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/11/alexander-lebedev-russia-oligarch
Mr Litvinenko’s widow believes MI6 failed to protect her husband. Her QC, Ben Emmerson, told the hearing at Camden Town Hall in North London: ‘Mr Litvinenko had been for a number of years a regular and paid agent and employee of MI6 with a dedicated handler whose pseudonym was Martin.
Martin … Martin …. Martin …. Martin ….
He had a separate telephone for contacting Martin and by the time of his death he also had a separate direct phone for contacting Lugovoy,’ he said.Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2247486/Alexander-Litvinenko-Poisoned-Russian-spy-working-British-AND-Spanish-intelligence-says-wife.html
Model wife of billionaire newspaper baron Alexander Lebedev fights to save her husband from Russian jail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241566/Model-wife-billionaire-newspaper-baron-Alexander-Lebedev-fights-save-husband-Russian-jail.html
Don’t trust the Lebedev newspapers. They are owned by MI6.
We should go back and DEBUNK everything we had read in the Independent regarding al Hilli and Chevaline as deliberate LIES and DISINFORMATION by MI5.
The article says that MI6 asset Lebedev owns 2 mail-newspapers, too. Is the Daily Mail amongst those, too? So then, whom can we trust except for the guardian?
Afternoon all, friendly neighbourhood moderator here. How goes it?
I see there’s been a recent increase in tension – not been following the conversations and contributions, but may I encourage people to stick to topics? It’s fascinating that the discussion has continued past 17K posts, but please keep it civil. If you are of the view that X is out to derail, then please ignore, and allow them to post. It really isn’t possible to determine online who is posting in good faith, and who is not.
Carry on 🙂
… as the late Anders7777 would have said …
B-R-E-A-K-I-N-G:Nixon stating the obvious on newly released tapes.
Money quotation: [my emphasis]
Regarding the alleged listening post in the ME that the UK are running, that Bluebird mentioned…
When you look at the route taken by SEA-ME-WE , which (quote) provides the primary Internet backbone between South East Asia, the Indian subcontinent, the Middle East and Europe” (unquote) and you, Egypt — which is the only overland stretch — seems a good candidate for a listening post, and Mubarak’s government was not the type of government which would be against this sort of thing. If Egypt is home to it, this further explains why the US and UK were so ambivalent in their support for the Egyptean revolution and for the winner, Mr. Morsi, in the subsequent elections, and why they have been reluctant to call the resent developments a “coup’. It also would explain why a revelation of its true placement would be so embarrassing. Consider the other alternatives in the autocratic ruled Arab world — say in the Gulf States (which is also NOT a hub for communications like Egypt is) — and it wouldn’t be an embarrassment in the same way, as they could just go on as before, without anyone protesting. The embarrassment lies in exposure in a country in democratic upheaval like Egypt – which is as I said also the location for the only overland stretch of the cable.
It also puts a brand new relevance to this news story from 2008, when the SEA-ME-WE 4 were cut, allegedly by a ships anchor just outside Alexandria, Egypt. If you are going to put a listening post up, you need to cut the cable and put your extension on, before restoring communications again
FOR GENERAL INFORMATION: THIS IS CUT AND PASTE (NOTHING NEW HERE – JUST A REFRESHER TO ILLUSTRATE THE STRANGE INCONSISTENCIES AS REGARDS ZAID AL HILLI.)
1. “But Zaid al-Hilli immediately handed himself over to Surrey police for questioning once his name was mentioned, and has vehemently denied having anything to do with his brother’s death.
Mae Faisal El-Wailly, who was a childhood friend of the al-Hillis in Baghdad, and rekindled her friendship with them in later life, told The Telegraph from her home in Arizona that she did not believe Zaid had anything to do with Saad’s murder.
Relations between Saad and his brother Zaid were said to be strained, with the two communicating through lawyers.
“But it was just a bit of a row,” she said. “There is no way it would escalate like that. I know Zaid, it’s nothing to do with him. I just think Saad got into something over his head.
“Khadim al-Hilli, Saad’s father, had died a year before, leaving a £1 million home in Claygate, Surrey, plus cash in a Swiss bank account. Mr Maillaud, has dismissed suggestions that such a cash fund even existed. Mr Maillaud, has dismissed suggestions that such a cash fund even existed” By Patrick Sawer 10:04AM GMT 17 Nov 2012 TELEGRAPH
2. “This was a shocking crime and we remain committed to working with our colleagues in France to find whoever was responsible and bring them to justice.”
Investigators originally said they believed the deaths may have been the result of a dispute between Mr al-Hilli and his brother, Zaid, but later moved away from that line of investigation.” PA | Posted: 29/04/2013 22:10 BST | Updated: 29/04/2013 22:14 BST
3. “Although Surrey police declined to identify Zaid al-Hilli as the suspect arrested today, a source in France confirmed that it was the 54-year-old older brother of Saad al-Hilli ” JOHN LICHFIELD Author Biography , KEVIN RAWLINSON MONDAY 24 JUNE 2013 INDEPENDENT
4. “French prosecutor Eric Maillaud said of Zaid’s arrest: “We have a motive but no certainty that he played an active role.
“We await his explanations. We are very open. The arrest is not the result of new evidence.”
Police said Mr al-Hilli was last night released on bail until July 31, “pending further inquiries”. By Tom Parry 26 Jun 2013 01:00. MIRROR
5. “The French prosecutor leading the investigation into the murder of a British-Iraqi family in the Alps has said he would have arrested the murdered man’s brother months ago. He claimed that the brothers “hated each other” and that the French had wanted to question Mr al-Hilli for a long time. “This arrest is not as the result of any new evidence, but is because the British forces now think they have enough evidence to question him.”In that sense it’s something of a ‘non event’ for us.”” By Harriet Alexander7:45PM BST 24 Jun 2013 Telegraph.
6. “Zaid al-Hilli was arrested in Chessington on 24 June on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder. His bail, due to run out on Wednesday, has been extended until 23 October. BBC NEWS 30 July 2013 Last updated at 18:20
7. “Zaid was questioned by French authorities in March. It was reported at the time that he was asked about a disputed inheritance.
The brothers’ father Kadhim, who died in Spain in 2011, left properties and around €1 million in a Swiss bank account. Saad had instructed lawyers to block the execution of the will until unspecified “disputes” had been resolved, according to published legal reports.
French investigators had already questioned Zaid on allegations that he tried to withdraw cash from the Swiss account shortly before the murders. “We need to ask him questions about his schedule, his relationship with his brother and the family inheritance,” Maillaud said Monday.
Earlier this month Maillaud revealed that police were looking into telephone calls to Romania made from Zaid’s phone. Maillaud said Romanian authorities had been asked to help establish who he was calling, but stressed that any potential link to Romania was not being treated as a major new lead.” LATEST UPDATE: 25/06/2013 FRANCE 24
Apropos Kenneth Sorensen
25 Aug, 2013 – 1:29 pm from your “friendly American” (Ha!) a few other CUT AND PASTE quotes duly attributed (as always).
1. “On 25 February 2012 the TEAMS cable was accidentally cut by a ship anchored off the coast of Mombasa.[1] The repairs were expected to take about 3 weeks.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEAMS_(cable_system)
2. “Seacom cable breaks hit South African internet services
Friday 28 June 2013 | 11:11 CET | News
South African internet connections were affected by reported multiple breaks to Seacom undersea cables on 27 June” http://www.telecompaper.com/news/seacom-cable-breaks-hit-south-african-internet-services–952346
3. East African Internet Resilience
28 Feb, 2012 | 9:04 PM | By Doug Madory
It is a fact of life of global Internet infrastructure that wherever shipping routes and cable routes overlap, submarine cable breaks are going to happen. In just the past two weeks, we’ve seen four major cable breaks: three at the same time in the Red Sea on Feb 17th, and a fourth right offshore near Mombasa, Kenya on Feb 25th.
http://www.renesys.com/2012/02/east-african-cable-breaks/#sthash.H09jTlzu.dpuf
4. “Undersea Internet Cables Cut AGAIN!
Niall Bradley
Sott.net
Sat, 03 Mar 2012 04:03 CSTPrint
A series of bizarre coincidences has left several African countries experiencing significantly reduced Internet traffic. The Register reported 28 February that an undersea cable was cut off the coast of Kenya on 25 February, severely reducing Internet traffic along the Eastern side of the African continent. The East African Marine Systems (TEAMS) cable pipes Internet and telecommunications from its landing points in Fujairah in the UAE to Mombasa, Kenya. A ship had apparently “dropped anchor in a restricted area”, though no further details, in particular the ship’s name, were provided. But what had apparently gone unnoticed up until this incident, at least in Western media, was the severance of three other submarine communications cables further north in the Red Sea on 17 February. The three cables in question were the Eastern Africa Submarine Cable System (EASSy), the Europe India Gateway (EIG) and the South East Asia Middle East Western Europe-3 (SEA-ME-WE-3).”
“Chris Wood, CEO of West Indian Ocean Cable, the largest shareholder of EASSy and a major owner of data-capacity rights on the two other submarine cables, told the Wall Street Journal that all three cables were “severed at the same time about 650 feet [200 metres] below the Red Sea.” So three separate undersea communications cables were severed at three points in the same section of the Red Sea on 17 February. A week later, the TEAMS cable was severed somewhere off the coast of Mombasa, Kenya. ”
“Repairs on the damaged cables in the Red Sea will be carried out by the same company, E-marine, part of Dubai-based telecommunications giant Etisalat, which laid down sections of all four damaged cables . I’ve looked for any corroborating evidence from reports of ships “dragging anchor” being caught up in these cable-cutting incidents, but nothing has turned up yet. Something tells me we’ll never learn the identities of the ships allegedly involved, perhaps because they don’t exist.” http://www.sott.net/article/242414-Undersea-Internet-Cables-Cut-AGAIN
hint. hint.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirates_Telecommunications_Corporation
Of course the East African incident could also be a candidate, but its not exactly “Middle East” is it, and it’s not a hub carrying traffic from Pakistan, as Egypt is. The South African one I dismissed right away
What is really dumb about all this surveillance stuff — which has just gotten way out of line to an extent that it undercuts the freedom and safety [like journalists’ sources] of ordinary people — is that any terrorist in spe, in future will avoid using computers as communication tools.
So for all this surveillance mess, thank Israel. Because without Israel, there wouldn’t have been any 9/11. [Israel couldn’t care less if the rest of the world should taste the same medicine, as it self has tasted particularly after its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967. It has had surveillance and infringements towards basci human rights ever since.]
The two chief motivation behind that mother of all terror attacks was (1) anger at US support for harsh Israeli politics in the occupied territories, and (1) protest gainst the stationing of US troops on holy Saudi soil (eg. sand) AFTER the war against Saddam was over in 1991. The person who was chief responsible for their continued stay was the super-lobbyist and -zionist, Martin Indyk, US citizen from 1993 (the same year he launched his infamous ‘Dual containment’ policy, widely regarded as the most dumb thing the US ever has embarked on (and that doesn’t say little). Here the US had to ‘contain’ two countries, Iraq and Iran, who were sworn enemies of each other[an incidentally Israels two greatest strategic adversaries, one might add], instead of just letting them keep ech other in check – as ALWAYS had been the prefered American policy in such circumstances. The troops needed had to be stationed somewhere, and unfortunately Saudi Arabia came to host many of them, which angered many in the Muslim world, and became an important rallying call for Al Queda.) and later US ambassador to Israel.
It’s not widely known but the attacks against the East African embassies took place EXACTLY on the date 8 years after US troops put their boots on Saudi Arabian soil. One can discuss the form this revenge took — with the horrible loss of innocent lives — but the underlying political protest fits in with the large majority of terror-attacks; they don’t come out of the blue, but always with a reason – as a protest about something we have done, in this case something this Israeli lobbyist in American clothes (Indyk) had done. And this story needs to be repeated again and again, particularly to any audience that includes Americans, because most of them are largely ignorant about what could possibly have caused an attack like the ones against thos East African embassies – and on USS Cole, where the underlying motivation undoubtely was similar.
“FOR GENERAL INFORMATION: THIS IS CUT AND PASTE (NOTHING NEW HERE…”
Rolls eyes again in total disbelief !
Kenneth Sorensen 1:18Pm and 1:29PM – “three cables cut at the same time” and “Egypt as the onlay land rmass along the route”
Those are good points you make. i never heard of those incidents where the cables were cut at about the same time. Your conjecture of this being done to insert taps make a lot of sense. The cables may not even need to all be cut actually, but they do need to be disabled while”taps” or “off-routers” are inserted. I believe – from what I know about undersea fiber-optic cable repair, that tsuch an operation can be fairly delicate and service restoration would take at least a day or more for full functionality.
As for your hypothesis of Egypt being the location of the listening headquarters, it does make sense, given the location. I wonder where in Egypt it would be though? I doubt it’s cairo for several reasons. the other country I thought of was Ethiopia – again due to geography.
That kind of makes me think that there could be more reasons than we know or suspect about this sudden urgency to remove Morsi and the MB from power. It all seemed to transpire rather suddenly and we have heard some funny stuff just before about issues with a dam and Ethiopia, and also about IMF loans etc. All in all, I felt that whatever the problems were in egypt under the MB, and there were many, especially on the economic front, they just did not add up to this urgency by the military. Something else must have been going on that suddenly made the MB a major liability and required taking Morsi himself out of view.
jon, good recommendations – hope people follow. And thanks for letting this board stay up for as long as it had – including stepping in now and then when needed. And please share the appreciation with craig himself, who we hope is on the road to prompt recovery.
james, 2:19AM
Glad to see you miss me. Sorry to disappoint but my periodic disappearances have nothing to do with what anyone says anywhere. Some of us, you see, have things to attend to, work to do, ideas to sell and [dirty] laundry to hang on poles far and wide.
While i am at it – how about bringing your non-Delphic persona (the un-oracle) for a visit here now and then? I know it’s there because you share it generously on MZT. or when you need BB to do some research. Why not here with the rest of us?
Sincerely yours,
Marlin™ (aka Tim V?)
PS let me know when Max is back? I think he is missed over there…me too busy to check…
Marlin/Tim
A. “While i am at it.. ”
Do I need to say “whilst” ? correct “yourself” !
B. The little “team” mark !
PPS… “We see. We say. We ping. We see…..”
Ms Marlin….please try to read the post of Jon.
“how about bringing your non-Delphic persona…..”
I think you mean “to here” ?
That’s because I am from the “old school”.
I will question you.
I will say how you operate.
I will make you answer to your (TimV/Marlin) views.
So “Delphic” ? Nah ! You (two/same) are just running scared.
@Jon
After going over their comments.
Can you “ping” the emails that’s given (the ISP ?).
Anders7777 had a go once…. but he lost.
Last man standing ?